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Awww my own puzzle? <3 you too Blargy!
That said, how much are you willing to put on me here? If I flip over as a regular nothing special tourist what happens? I guess that's up to the village to decide. I expect solutions to this in the dead thread when we inevitably meet there.
Blargonaut
Banned
BRB
If nothing else, Blarg's puzzles allow me to see how is monitoring the thread. How come you've been so quiet Droplet?
johnnyquicknives
Member
OK.
So for the main players being accused today.
Blargonaut
I always struggle to read him, but I don't feel like he needs to go yet and I'd rather have him around a little longer. The main reason I agree with to get rid of him is that until we do he is going to demand conversation, which isn't really something I want to off him for yet.
Coppanova
Slightly more suspicious than Blarg to me but he posts a lot and I like that. As much as LP wasn't playing very well I'm not convinced that his defence of coppa is reason to vote for him, feels flimsy. I'd rather keep him in the game now because he's active, and that gives us more to look at. If he is culty then he'll trap himself in his posts, and quite possibly provide us with more to look at in the long run.
I don't like the vote-baiting.
GreatCharlestan
Inactive and filler, never a good combination. My gut check really does say inexperience for him rather than cult though. If we get rid of one of these 3 I'd prefer it was him.
Generally on the first couple of days theres just some players that feel off to me.
Neuromancer
He's kind of the flip to GC for me. Playing very inexperienced but I don't have a good gut feeling about him. Like GC he's also gone mostly quiet for day two.
Timeaisis
It's maybe a bit meta but something in his posts feels a bit off to me compared to in the last couple of games. A little bit more filler-y and less noticeable.
Maybe we just need a good set of possible scenarios to straighten everything out.
Finally though for now I'm going to:
VOTE: Vylash
He needs to post. The fact that we know he's been prodded and he still hasn't said anything isn't a good sign.
So for the main players being accused today.
Blargonaut
I always struggle to read him, but I don't feel like he needs to go yet and I'd rather have him around a little longer. The main reason I agree with to get rid of him is that until we do he is going to demand conversation, which isn't really something I want to off him for yet.
Coppanova
Slightly more suspicious than Blarg to me but he posts a lot and I like that. As much as LP wasn't playing very well I'm not convinced that his defence of coppa is reason to vote for him, feels flimsy. I'd rather keep him in the game now because he's active, and that gives us more to look at. If he is culty then he'll trap himself in his posts, and quite possibly provide us with more to look at in the long run.
I don't like the vote-baiting.
GreatCharlestan
Inactive and filler, never a good combination. My gut check really does say inexperience for him rather than cult though. If we get rid of one of these 3 I'd prefer it was him.
Generally on the first couple of days theres just some players that feel off to me.
Neuromancer
He's kind of the flip to GC for me. Playing very inexperienced but I don't have a good gut feeling about him. Like GC he's also gone mostly quiet for day two.
Timeaisis
It's maybe a bit meta but something in his posts feels a bit off to me compared to in the last couple of games. A little bit more filler-y and less noticeable.
Maybe we just need a good set of possible scenarios to straighten everything out.
Finally though for now I'm going to:
VOTE: Vylash
He needs to post. The fact that we know he's been prodded and he still hasn't said anything isn't a good sign.
It hasn't even been a day since the last time I posted. I've been gone and the times I checked the thread there was nothing of interest to comment on aside from Blarg antics. Now we had a vote starting on Coppa that's gone to a vote on GreatCharleston. I don't have an opinion of Coppa yet and I think GreatCharleston is town. I also don't want to lynch Blarg. What would you like to hear?
OK.
So for the main players being accused today.
Blargonaut
I always struggle to read him, but I don't feel like he needs to go yet and I'd rather have him around a little longer. The main reason I agree with to get rid of him is that until we do he is going to demand conversation, which isn't really something I want to off him for yet.
Coppanova
Slightly more suspicious than Blarg to me but he posts a lot and I like that. As much as LP wasn't playing very well I'm not convinced that his defence of coppa is reason to vote for him, feels flimsy. I'd rather keep him in the game now because he's active, and that gives us more to look at. If he is culty then he'll trap himself in his posts, and quite possibly provide us with more to look at in the long run.
I don't like the vote-baiting.
GreatCharlestan
Inactive and filler, never a good combination. My gut check really does say inexperience for him rather than cult though. If we get rid of one of these 3 I'd prefer it was him.
Generally on the first couple of days theres just some players that feel off to me.
Neuromancer
He's kind of the flip to GC for me. Playing very inexperienced but I don't have a good gut feeling about him. Like GC he's also gone mostly quiet for day two.
Timeaisis
It's maybe a bit meta but something in his posts feels a bit off to me compared to in the last couple of games. A little bit more filler-y and less noticeable.
Maybe we just need a good set of possible scenarios to straighten everything out.
Finally though for now I'm going to:
VOTE: Vylash
He needs to post. The fact that we know he's been prodded and he still hasn't said anything isn't a good sign.
Thank you for finally posting thoughts, glad I didn't have to keep my vote held on you to get some of your thoughts <3
That being said, after all of that, Vylash is an interesting pick to choose to use your vote on to pressure a reaction. It's an unfortunate case that we got two completely inactive players on that role but it's the same situation that I mentioned with Capitain and Orange on the first day, if Vylash never posts then /shrug we'll have someone new on day 3 who hopefully speaks up. On the other hand, if he sneaks in a post near the end of day 2, I'm going to come hard on him during day 3. Posting now while it's still early in the day would be best, of course, plus I want to start getting a read on him but it doesn't mean much right now if he doesn't post.
Just my two cents on your vote, I have no reason to defend someone who hasn't even talked so I won't waste too much time on it.
I think I got the solution. I looked at the video Blargonaut posted. It seems it is not that important what the meaning of the song is. It took me some time but I think the game engine that was used for this music video is from a Polish game called Wiedźmin.
Andrzej Sadowski created that character and wrote books about him....nvm I don't get the connection.
Andrzej Sadowski created that character and wrote books about him....nvm I don't get the connection.
Discussion is discussion so since you're here, I might as well generate some. Why do you think Charleston is town? How about the recent vote against me, anything of interest to you there? Also, why don't you want to lynch Blarg? I thought you might have said why recently but I didn't see it in any of your posts (could be missing it though).
It's a lot easier than that.
I know sometimes we have to act crazy to understand Blarg but please don't try to confuse us all further.
Oh? If Blarg is hiding things in riddles, for his own sake, someone should be deciphering them for the rest of us, he's not going to live very long if his riddles don't give us info.
Blargonaut
Banned
Witcher 3...Witcher.... Witch.... Blargonaut are you implying that Coppa is a witch?
johnnyquicknives
Member
Don't worry it wasn't your vote I'm just busier now (I just started a new job yesterday which probably won't turn out too well if I spend all day sitting making mafia posts)
We still have over 2 days left, my vote will likely change, but I think it's best to add a bit of pressure. Like you say I think that getting him involved early is better as he'll have time for more than a cursory post or a bandwagon vote.
Sure. Unfortunately I can't give you much of a solid answer, but Charleston's reactions after seeing Blarg's initial puzzle and his unease as we dogpiled on Blarg hinted me more towards him being town or anything. Remember at the time we were operating under the assumption that Blarg was a neutral third party. In that case, it was more to Cult's benefit to get rid of him fast, especially since focusing on him got the heat off of Lone_Prodigy quickly.
I don't want to lynch Blarg because I think he's town. That's all. I understand where everyone's coming from, and if we're going to inevitably spend pages on end debating what to do about him I'd be okay with getting rid of him and getting his role information, but I'd rather we not. There are interesting things to talk about that aren't Blarg.
Also, sorry about the puzzle. I can give you a dumb hint, but without knowing the information Blarg has access to I don't even know if it's meaningful.
OST
Only thing I got is BOLO is an acronym for "Be on the lookout", PRESTAT likely refers to a pre-condition. My guess is in the first line he's advising an inspector (ID_SOLVENT from the previous day maybe) to be on the lookout for the person referred to in SOLUTE2 from yesterday. He has the 2nd number bolded, my guess is it's a form of instructions for suggested moves?
Solute 5 has the number 603 in the brackets and post number 603 is a Blarg special. I don't remember that song from Witcher fully and I'm at work so I can't listen to it/ watch it but maybe that post means something to someone else.
Blargonaut
Banned
Forgive me.
Uuugh...can you just answer me 2 questions.
Is this...information...verified? And more importantly, are you town?
And please serve me green tea next time, thank you.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Heh, that's fair. To be honest I'd be offended if you DID trust me at this point, considerin' I've been here for less than a day.
Actually, it's just Akane in vaguely period-appropriate gear! Thought I'd fully commit to the part.
Lord of Castamere
Member
"STOP TALKING ABOUT ME, IT'S NOT MY FAULT"
"Okay lets talk about GreatCharleston."
"NO WAIT HERE'S ANOTHER PUZZLE, TALK ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
"Okay lets talk about GreatCharleston."
"NO WAIT HERE'S ANOTHER PUZZLE, TALK ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
That's awesome. Fan art, I'm assuming? I don't recognize it from DR2, but I haven't played AE yet.
I really dig the DR avatars. Maybe after this season I'll retire Alton and switch over.
Ok, sorry, I won't derail the thread any further. Against my better judgement, I'm going to work on Blarg's puzzle.
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
VOTE: Coppanuva
Immortality, take it, it's yours.
Immortality, take it, it's yours.
Focusing only on solute 5, you mention eyes or seeing 3 times. You also marked this one as (do not divulge) as well which makes me think that this one is supposed to be your role claim, kind of like how I thought solute 2 was a role claim as well. That one spoke of extrapolating with research and IDing things. No one really seemed to have solved solute 2 so you made things a little bit easier this time, maybe? We already had a witch, my guess is you are claiming to be a Seer which would be the investigative role of the game.
Ugh, your stupid gambit is annoying. You know me saying all of that means in good conscience, I can't call for your lynching. You might actually be one of our biggest assets and I can't risk killing you over nothing. It lines up too because none of us seem to believe that you delivered the second body last night. Also, sorry but I had to divulge away today. I can't just suddenly decide to defend you or no one will believe me anyway. At least doing it like this maybe it'll convince others to not kill you today and we can hope that you get some type of protection over night.
That's my theory at least, I've got no idea on solute 6 or 7.
Ugh, your stupid gambit is annoying. You know me saying all of that means in good conscience, I can't call for your lynching. You might actually be one of our biggest assets and I can't risk killing you over nothing. It lines up too because none of us seem to believe that you delivered the second body last night. Also, sorry but I had to divulge away today. I can't just suddenly decide to defend you or no one will believe me anyway. At least doing it like this maybe it'll convince others to not kill you today and we can hope that you get some type of protection over night.
That's my theory at least, I've got no idea on solute 6 or 7.
If he is the seer, do you think he makes a claim about anyone he investigated? If this is, in fact, his role I'd like to know who he investigated before he has a chance to die.
Couldn't the three sets of eyes also be referring to the number of cultists (either total or remaining?).
Lord of Castamere
Member
Sorry, busy right now. I'll do a detailed post later.
Great Charleston and Coppanova are both good legitimate picks. Blarg isn't really helping us though. I've said this before and I'll say it again. A Towns job isn't to spread chaos. Blarg isn't Town, no matter what's on paper.
He might be the "tough" pick today, but he's the right pick.
Blargonaut
Banned
Give me one more Day and I can guarantee a Tourist win.
Give me one more Day and I can guarantee a G-Men win.
Give me one more Day and I can guarantee a Cultist win.
Within the puzzle? I don't know, maybe. On the surface though, he seems to be pointing at you quite a lot.
If we want to read really deeply into it, I only saw 3 instances of him mentioning eyes but I didn't understand the part about stamps in this period or the emulate part at the end. Those could mean something too.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Everybody wants Blarg to stop speaking in riddles.
He gave us a target.
If Coppanuva flips Tourist, I'll allow a Blarg lynch without protest. Hell, I'll vote for him myself.
If you don't trust Blarg, trust me.
He gave us a target.
If Coppanuva flips Tourist, I'll allow a Blarg lynch without protest. Hell, I'll vote for him myself.
If you don't trust Blarg, trust me.
He certainly is. If that's his actual goal, he's certainly no seer. What would convince you otherwise? A bad eviction he called for? Because that's what you'll get by listening to him at face value.
I'm also now curious about his whole G-men reference in his most recent post. I'm not really familiar with Lovecraftian works, do G-men show up often, often enough to make that a plausible third team confirmation? Though on one hand I doubt Blargonaut would slip up that easily.
With what I read from that puzzle, I'm forced to assume Coppa is our best target for today. If Coppa does flip tourist though then yes, Blarg needs to go immediately. I read it no other way.
Matt Attack
Member
I do trust you. But, what if I knew that Blarg was untrustworthy? What if I were able to confirm that lynching Blarg would benefit the tourists in a big way? What if he weren't the only player in this game with a so-called "xanatos gambit"?
I strongly urge you to flip that order. While ultimately it doesn't matter which of us dies first (assuming one of us dies here the other dies tomorrow), the only thing my death will prove is Blargonaut's inability to tell the truth. You'll sidetrack the entirety of the next day's conversation. I'm fully prepared to die tomorrow if Blargonaut is a town member, hell I'd vote for myself if I could. But until then, let me prove to you that he's full of it and leading you astray.
VOTE: Blargonaut
I don't need two people talking in riddles. What's your xanatos gambit? What makes you so sure?
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
If Blarg's wrong about you, we lose you.
If you're wrong about Blarg, we lose Blarg.
I choose Blarg.
Blargonaut
Banned
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I like those odds. Put alla the chips on red and see where the ball lands.
But which one of you is red? Maybe I'll flip a coin and let th' cruel hand of chance decide.
Are you planning to say something before we vote or what...? I will remind you that your gigantic post trying to convince us to all vote for Blarg is part of what lost us the LP lynch on the first day phase.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Remember, I'm not just backing Blarg, here. We both arrived at this choice independently, which is partly why I feel so good about it. Read my case again. Yes, a lot of it is circumstantial, but I think it's a strong, cohesive narrative.
Blargonaut
Banned
Swing the bat, Sorian.
Get in the robot, Sorian.
Pierce the heavens with your drill, Sorian.
True, the issue is that Matt is now throwing in against Blarg and his claim doesn't sound like it is coming from evidence but from actual verified information.
Matt Attack
Member
At this point, there's little use in hiding my role. I'm an investigator. However, I'm significantly weaker than your typical seer role, in that rather than showing whether you're good or bad, I can find out whether you're a certain individual or not.
In my role PM, I was afforded a certain piece of information: the cultists can be prevented from making a sacrifice for a single night. To do so, we need to lynch a specific individual. My role allows me to try, once per night, to SPY on a single player to confirm whether or not they are this individual.
There's a catch though- that person needs to be lynched before three cultists are killed. Ring any bells?
The moment LoC solved this for me, I realized that there was a good chance Blargonaut was the player in question. I put my full efforts into attempting to have Blarg lynched at this point, as you all are all no doubt aware. Unfortunately, Tucah was lynched instead. I would have role claimed at that point, but I couldn't be sure if Blargonaut was our man before using my night command.
After spying on Blargonaut, I can confirm now that he is the person I was supposed to find. Lynching him will deal a huge blow to the cultists- they will not be able to sacrifice anybody on that night phase, guaranteed.
Today, I was hoping to avoid role claiming- I had figured that Blarg's suspicious behavior would do all of the work for me. However, with the knowledge I now possess, I'm unable to simply allow Coppanuva to by lynched- not when I know now that the individual who says that we must lynch him is so suspicious- after all, what sort of town role hurts the cultists this badly when lynched? It would be punishing them for doing their job successfully. Also consider how little he's made an effort to help the tourists thus far. He's offered almost no reasoning for his actions, and his defenses have been sorely lacking (it really does seem like he's hiding behind the wall of "Blarg gonna Blarg". While I do not know if he is cultist or neutral, I can say with almost complete confidence that Blargonaut is not town.
So what's my xanatos gambit?
If we lynch Blarg, I'm vindicated and town is granted a reprieve tonight. This further shifts the momentum in the tourist's favor.
If I'm lynched or night killed at any point, my role PM will do all the talking for me. You all will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have not lied, and you can lynch Blarg with confidence- hopefully leading to an eventual town win.
If Blarg isn't a cultist and ends up being night killed, it should help confirm that at least my reasoning was correct. I'll be vindicated, even if we don't get the one night reprieve.
However, can we really risk not lynching Blarg now that I've come out with this information? If he is a neutral role, the cultists now want him to night kill him for certain- they can't afford to be blocked tonight, especially since LP died. And town, I've done my best to prove my loyalties thus far. I hate to back you all into a corner like this, but I do NOT want us to waste this chance to further damage the cultist's chances at winning. Without my role claim, I simply wasn't persuasive enough. I hope that changes now.
VOTE: Blargonaut
