Rats Off To Ya
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I warned you, Blarg. I warned you about puzzles.
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Matt Attack
Member
UNVOTE: Blargonaut
I really just needed my vote for effect at the end of my role claim. I'll revote later on.
Hypothetically, if that is Blarg's role, and he did kill LP, and Coppanuva were a cultist, I would be seriously concerned with either how powerful his role is (at which point you have to wonder: just how many cultists are there?) or how amazing he is at deductions.
Should I be scared?
I really just needed my vote for effect at the end of my role claim. I'll revote later on.
Hypothetically, if that is Blarg's role, and he did kill LP, and Coppanuva were a cultist, I would be seriously concerned with either how powerful his role is (at which point you have to wonder: just how many cultists are there?) or how amazing he is at deductions.
Should I be scared?
You know I'm there.
Lord of Castamere
Member
We were already suspicious of BOTH players. I don't see them as great reads even if true.
They were/are safe kills for a town aligned killer IMO.
Did Blarg ever really throw strong suspicion towards Charleston? It seemed more like he agreed with the assessment that there was something fishy there but he didn't seem as sure of that as he seems sure of Coppa.
This made me laugh a lot but please Launch, go back and watch your students. I know they aren't as cool and as good at playing as we are but not every town can be winners.
This made me laugh a lot but please Launch, go back and watch your students. I know they aren't as cool and as good at playing as we are but not every town can be winners.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Yeah, there's nothing to suggest Blarg has information on the Cult's identities. Prodigy and Coppa are my picks, as well, and I certainly don't have that information.
It's good to talk about but once we lynch Blarg and see his exact role description, it should be easy to surmise how much of what he knew was speculation and if any of it was given to him. It makes me wonder even more now if he did have the power to kill though. If he didn't we really need to figure out who got that cultist kill.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Blarg seemed pretty sure that he could win the game for one side or th' other by tomorrow. I wonder what his ace in the hole was? Or was he just bluffing to save his sorry hide?
Man, this liar's game sure is lookin' more like fifty-two pickup now...
Man, this liar's game sure is lookin' more like fifty-two pickup now...
Well if we somehow ended up with 3 dead cultists by the next day phase, he'd have certainly won the game for himself. And I guess we'd be a good chunk into winning for town.
He seemed sure he could win his own objective by tomorrow, I doubt he needed to care past that, we just need to know why he was so sure that he'd win by tomorrow.
Well, a lot happened while I was in that movie. Bravo, Matt.
He was just saying whatever he needed to survive to the next day. Of course Coppa, the other vote leader at the time Blarg started making his puzzle, was a huge threat we just HAD to kill. Of course we'd get a really awesome prize if we he just survived to the next day.
He was just saying whatever he needed to survive to the next day. Of course Coppa, the other vote leader at the time Blarg started making his puzzle, was a huge threat we just HAD to kill. Of course we'd get a really awesome prize if we he just survived to the next day.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Blarg was the first vote on Coppa. It wasn't a target of convenience, it was a target of purpose. And we've all but confirmed that Blarg's purpose is to kill Cultists.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Well, if Mattack's tellin' the truth (and let's face it, he almost soitenly is) then we've bought ourselves an extra day of interrogation an' speculation. I'm curious as t'why Blarg's gettin' all dramatic now though, seems almost as if he's not entirely dissatisfied with this outcome.
Blarg is into showmanship but he seems to have always been one to accept defeat when it comes to him. That being said, I highly doubt we've heard his last appeal for his life/the last piece of information he wants to provide before death. That's why it's best to hold the vote. Gives him time to compose exactly what he wants to do before his death.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Then we kill Coppa tomorrow.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Heh, I can appreciate someone with a flair for the dramatic. Too bad his goose is cooked, I feel like we coulda been allies in another life.
That was the deal I proposed, I fully intend to see it through. Also, if there's any full seer out there, use your powers wisely tonight, there's been some interesting proposals and votes today, I'd look into those sooner.
If there is a full seer, I would hope they would look at you and then fight tooth and nail for you on day 3. I'd rather not waste the vote if you are indeed a tourist.
I'd argue the Seer might be best going after some other people, going either to the really active people, or inactive. Someone like you Sorian or LoC for active people, and then the replacement people like Vylash and the like. This would give us two options, either rallying behind active confirmed people, or taking out potential hidden Cultist inactives.
Alternstive scenario:
Matt_Attack is cult. He is offering no night eviction because it is something the cult can deliver. Perhaps Blarg can only be voted out in the day time. I refuse to vote for Blarg over this silliness. Simply gaining a night phase is not enough unless we think Blarg is cult.
Vote for scum not for stupid fucking role claims
Matt_Attack is cult. He is offering no night eviction because it is something the cult can deliver. Perhaps Blarg can only be voted out in the day time. I refuse to vote for Blarg over this silliness. Simply gaining a night phase is not enough unless we think Blarg is cult.
Vote for scum not for stupid fucking role claims
Do you think Blarg is a Tourist? I don't.
Matt seemed to indicate that Blarg's role might say something about him being the right person who needs to die, so if it's not in Blarg's role PM, we can go for Matt, barring an excellent defense. Although, even if it isn't in his PM, as long he isn't town, Blarg can die without us losing any ground.
We can deal with Matt/Coppa tomorrow depending on the results, you and everyone else need to realize that Blarg is the only option.
Blargonaut
Banned
Darryl, I'm pretty sure you're Cult, but if you save me from lynching today and not have your goons or yourself backstab the fuck out of me tonight, I will let you use me. I don't know how, but I will sign your contract.
Do you understand? I'm selling-out.
Do you understand? I'm selling-out.
Blargonaut
Banned
But, Darryl, how can I recover face when I've made my defeat so convincing?
Talk dirty to me.
Talk dirty to me.
Okay, so say it doesn't mention it. Then the Cultists do a no-kill to make Matt look good, we'll buy his story for a day or two, and then we can reassess and lynch him if the need arises. Look at Blarg, he's willing to help the Cultists. I don't care what he is, anyone willing to harm the town must die, whether that be me, you, or Blarg, and in this case it's Blarg.
Blargonaut
Banned
VOTE: Coppanuva
Blargonaut
Banned
Face it, Darryl, your petty little faction can't save me, no matter how much you play good cop, bad cop.
Darryl, please, you're being ridiculous and painting a sign on yourself and you know it. Blarg is going to die and we will see exactly what his role was. Matt won't just be able to talk his way out of anything, he told a very specific story and if it's wrong then suddenly him and Coppa are the cultist band that played a one hit wonder before being murdered on day 3 and 4.
Matt Attack
Member
If Blarg were to be lynched, I'm unsure how Zatoth would handle blocking their night role (as in, whether we would be told or not). What I do know is that I am telling the truth- the cultists will not be able to sacrifice anybody when Blargonaut is lynched. I think it is extremely likely that Blarg's role PM will contain that information though. It would be a pretty big omission for the person in question.
Also, if I were a cultist, this would make me the most extraordinarily stupid cultist you could imagine.
Blargonaut
Banned
They're gonna hang me in the mornin',
Before the night is done.
They're gonna hang me in the mornin',
I'll never see the sun.
Before the night is done.
They're gonna hang me in the mornin',
I'll never see the sun.
Blargonaut
Banned
Hey, Matt Attack, say my name.
Matt Attack
Member
I believe he prefers to be called "Dead"
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
In this scenario you're assuming Matt is a Cultist, in which case 3 Tourists is a fair trade.
I don't believe you ever mentioned that killing someone with the time cube kills yourself. Your fear tactic is banking on the random chance the cube kills the holder in addition to you. Also, if I had the cube, you wouldn't be my first target.
How do we know how many cultists there are? How we know the 3 town being evicted aren't PRs? I'm not down with suicide pacts.
So first the item probably only goes to tourists, now you think Matt has it who you are also painting as a cultist. Get out of here with your garbage logic Darryl, I expected better from you. You're slipping trying to play two games at once. We got a cultist kill day 1, in your scenario (which is bullshit to begin with) we get another cultist in exchange for 3 tourists. We are still far ahead of the curve.
No, one of the abilities of the cube is to instantly remove all trace of you & another player from play.
Blargonaut
Banned
Tell me what my role name is, O' Omniscient One.
Anyways, what exactly do you gain, Matt Attack, from outing me like this anyhoo?
If you were really pro-Town, and you discovered that I was some sort of Ultra Pro-Town Anti-Cult Null Field Psyker-Killer, wouldn't you want to conceal that information from the public as long as possible? From the Cult?
Such a pro-Town power would be more useful in the later stages of the game when the pool of suspects is at a critical mass, rather than now, wouldn't you agree?
Just thinking aloud as I rattle these shackles and cuffs, ya know.
Anyways, what exactly do you gain, Matt Attack, from outing me like this anyhoo?
If you were really pro-Town, and you discovered that I was some sort of Ultra Pro-Town Anti-Cult Null Field Psyker-Killer, wouldn't you want to conceal that information from the public as long as possible? From the Cult?
Such a pro-Town power would be more useful in the later stages of the game when the pool of suspects is at a critical mass, rather than now, wouldn't you agree?
Just thinking aloud as I rattle these shackles and cuffs, ya know.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Sometimes you've just gotta roll the dice, pal. The only thing that guarentees alla our deaths is inaction, so we've gotta do our best to come to th' most proactive conclusions.
Building off of Rats' point, your scenario means Matt, and more then likely Coppa are Cultists. We lose 2/3 town, but we get 2 more cultists. By Day 4, we'd have killed 3 Cultists. I like those odds for us winning the game. It's not suicide, it's a power play to put us even further ahead.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
If there's more than one Cultist per three Tourists we're playing a cruelly unbalanced game.
This is a ridiculous line of argument. I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish here, besides making yourself look untrustworthy.
Matt_Attack is on my hot list for cultists. So obviously I'm taking everything he says from a cult perspective. I don't see Blarg as a threat. I don't care how untrustworthy I look.
Okay, so you say Blarg isn't a threat. I'll ask again, do you think he is a Tourist?