You have to give in and use the hip spray SMG like 90% of the other players
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Call of Duty: Black Ops II |OT| Black to the Future
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You have to give in and use the hip spray SMG like 90% of the other players
Well i felt the same at first on Turbine, but as long as you work the outer parts of the map you should be fine. Maybe it's because im using the FAL, but with an AR the goal should always be to maximize the distance between you and the enemy. It's a slower playstyle and involves a little bit more 'camping', by which I dont mean sitting in a corner, but simply occupying those parts of the map, that give you an advantage.
Yeah sometimes there's no other way, but it always depends on the map / team / game mode.
I loved my 27 but it got me nowhere with lag comp. I need more bullets out faster and that doesn't work, either. I'm just pumping rounds out and people that don't go down. Hit markers galore but I am not afforded such immunity since I have a decent connection.
soulassssns
Banned
It is true you can do just that.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
This is how I've played every COD to date but I can't get shit done in this because people just don't die and SMGs far out range all but the longest sightlines.
I know that feeling.
I've had one of the worst weeks imaginable in CoD this week, but today everything finally came together, i just hope it stays that way now.
Xux
Member
What the heck. The 60-11 game I had yesterday isn't on Elite. Probably the best game of COD I've ever had, lol. I don't how legit it'd be considered 'cause of netcode etc. but it'd be cool to look at.
Also, the HAMR's pretty ridiculous; 3-shot kill out to where most of the SMGs are a six shot and at a higher rate of fire than all but two. Yes, please.
Also, the HAMR's pretty ridiculous; 3-shot kill out to where most of the SMGs are a six shot and at a higher rate of fire than all but two. Yes, please.
BroggieDoge
Member
Just
how much longer till I beat game?
finished club scene with karma
I thought the HAMR was 750RPM?
Is there something special about the HAMR that makes it better than MK48? MK48 has no sway at all w/ reflex. It is 3HK past the distance that HAMR switches from 4HK to 5HK and its long range is 4HK (49-30 dmg)
MK48 has a larger mag too. The only downside is that MK48 takes the entire match to reload.
Xux
Member
The first eight shots or so every time you pull the trigger fire at more than 900 RPM then it drops to 600.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Knifing seems so broken in this game. It seems I'm losing 3/4s of my knifing situations. It just seems so finicky in this game. I can't seem to get a feel for it at all and I'm well past prestiging at this point.
Uno Venova
Banned
Turning around after every kill works well for me, i feel like i'm getting better at anticipating where the enemy will come from.
Xux
Member
Both are pretty non-existent.
The characters will yell out that their teammate has died, too, which is a little more reliable than listening for footsteps.
SkoomaSuckinSwit
Member
This just makes me weep yet another tear for the console version of CounterStrike Global Offensive. Damn you, Valve, for dropping that beta version as a retail release with no further support.
legacyzero
Banned
Black Ops 2 is great artistically. I hate that the textures dont pop like they could though.
The characters in the game are fantastic! I didn't think I'd like Harper very much, because I didn't think he'd fit as a character, and I was pleasantly surprised. Woods was awesome as always. But I REALLY REALLY loved the villain. Great stuff. You have a reason to love/hate him. They place him in your shoes. I've always said that the best villians are the ones that you can understand their method of madness. The plot twists were unreal, and genuinely dark, and somewhat hurtful if you are invested in the characters enough, which this game certainly handles well. The game tells a great story for sure.
The characters in the game are fantastic! I didn't think I'd like Harper very much, because I didn't think he'd fit as a character, and I was pleasantly surprised. Woods was awesome as always. But I REALLY REALLY loved the villain. Great stuff. You have a reason to love/hate him. They place him in your shoes. I've always said that the best villians are the ones that you can understand their method of madness. The plot twists were unreal, and genuinely dark, and somewhat hurtful if you are invested in the characters enough, which this game certainly handles well. The game tells a great story for sure.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Death Machine <<< War Machine
The arc on the latter is so miniscule compared to other grenade launchers, and the rate of fire is great too. Long reload animation though, but I believe you can cancel it in an emergency and shoot since it's reloaded round-by-round. The Death Machine on the other hand kills quickly but you're a sitting duck with the thing.
And just in case you guys didn't know you can switch back to your primary weapon after getting either of them. They don't disappear until you exhaust all the ammo or get a War Machine while you have a Death Machine and vice versa.
The arc on the latter is so miniscule compared to other grenade launchers, and the rate of fire is great too. Long reload animation though, but I believe you can cancel it in an emergency and shoot since it's reloaded round-by-round. The Death Machine on the other hand kills quickly but you're a sitting duck with the thing.
And just in case you guys didn't know you can switch back to your primary weapon after getting either of them. They don't disappear until you exhaust all the ammo or get a War Machine while you have a Death Machine and vice versa.
legacyzero
Banned
War machine fucking SUCKS for Zombies though. What the hell.. It doesn't explode on impact at all
I think I may have finally hit CoD fatigue with this one. Once I finally got some guns that worked for me (Scar for an AR, Vector/Skorpion for SMG's) my K/D's above breaking even now (fluctuates between 1.1-1.15) and having a much better time of actually playing the game. Also not getting a much in the way of horrible lag or obvious lag compensation anymore.
So on paper everything's great, but I just don't have the motivation to really play the game. With previous games I would have been on 24/7 during double XP regardless of friends being on, but I only played for maybe 6 hours across all 3 days, and just spent time messing around in Diablo or on the internet or doing other stuff instead. I do think part of the issue is that I think they may have almost made the higher end scorestreaks too hard to get. I never rolled higher end killstreaks; I spent most of MW3 on either Support or Specialist, and on Assault I usually ran UAV/IMS/Care Package. But so far closing in on 2nd Prestige playing a variety of modes (mainly Ground War and Nuketown) I haven't seen a Swarm once, and I've only seen dogs and the warship once each, and both of those were teammates who got them out of care packages. It seems like just about everyone is running UAV/Care Package then either RC, Lightning Strike, or Hunter Killer as their third.
So in a weird way the game feels kind of boring. Even though I'm doing well I'm not feeling any satisfaction in getting crazy streaks like in previous games, and I'm not seeing that from anyone else either. At that point it just becomes a gun game, and while it's fine in that regard, typical CoD lag and hit detection make it not super satisfying in that regard either. I'll probably continue to play it with friends off and on, but I think I'm largely over it already.
So on paper everything's great, but I just don't have the motivation to really play the game. With previous games I would have been on 24/7 during double XP regardless of friends being on, but I only played for maybe 6 hours across all 3 days, and just spent time messing around in Diablo or on the internet or doing other stuff instead. I do think part of the issue is that I think they may have almost made the higher end scorestreaks too hard to get. I never rolled higher end killstreaks; I spent most of MW3 on either Support or Specialist, and on Assault I usually ran UAV/IMS/Care Package. But so far closing in on 2nd Prestige playing a variety of modes (mainly Ground War and Nuketown) I haven't seen a Swarm once, and I've only seen dogs and the warship once each, and both of those were teammates who got them out of care packages. It seems like just about everyone is running UAV/Care Package then either RC, Lightning Strike, or Hunter Killer as their third.
So in a weird way the game feels kind of boring. Even though I'm doing well I'm not feeling any satisfaction in getting crazy streaks like in previous games, and I'm not seeing that from anyone else either. At that point it just becomes a gun game, and while it's fine in that regard, typical CoD lag and hit detection make it not super satisfying in that regard either. I'll probably continue to play it with friends off and on, but I think I'm largely over it already.
andregnreis
Member
Hi guys, I would like to ask a question about the difference between the consoles and the PC versions.
I've always played the CoD games on my X360, and consider myself an "average to good player", usually with a 2 K/D.
I was considering buying the PC version of Black Ops 2, since 1) it is way cheaper here in Brazil, 2) a good friend of mine bought this version, 3) i think it is way more beautiful on PC.
The problem is, i cant play with mouse and keyboard. I wouldnt mind people having some advantage over me (using a controller), because i think overall i would manage to play reasonably well. Since CoD is a game much more about reflex, anticipating enemy movement, and close range combat, i thought i wouldnt have much problem playing with my gamepad.
But, when i tried this today i was really owned! My K/D was like 2/15, 3/10, never positive! Maybe the playing field is higher, but the problem is that the game felt different, than what i experience when playing on my X360! Like if they have the game adjusted in some way for gamepads on consoles, and in another way for gamepads on PC.
I dont know if the sensitive is diferent, or the engine, or if they absolutely removed some auto-aim that maybe exist in the console version, but what i know is that i couldnt aim as precise and fast as i usually do on the X360.
Any theories on what is happening?
I've always played the CoD games on my X360, and consider myself an "average to good player", usually with a 2 K/D.
I was considering buying the PC version of Black Ops 2, since 1) it is way cheaper here in Brazil, 2) a good friend of mine bought this version, 3) i think it is way more beautiful on PC.
The problem is, i cant play with mouse and keyboard. I wouldnt mind people having some advantage over me (using a controller), because i think overall i would manage to play reasonably well. Since CoD is a game much more about reflex, anticipating enemy movement, and close range combat, i thought i wouldnt have much problem playing with my gamepad.
But, when i tried this today i was really owned! My K/D was like 2/15, 3/10, never positive! Maybe the playing field is higher, but the problem is that the game felt different, than what i experience when playing on my X360! Like if they have the game adjusted in some way for gamepads on consoles, and in another way for gamepads on PC.
I dont know if the sensitive is diferent, or the engine, or if they absolutely removed some auto-aim that maybe exist in the console version, but what i know is that i couldnt aim as precise and fast as i usually do on the X360.
Any theories on what is happening?
Scott32020
Member
Multiplayer is absolutely smooth FPS (frames per second), but campaign i get routine drops from 60 to 30 [on some levels a lot, on others only occasionally:usually when outside], does the game cap it at one of these thresholds so that it isn't that volatile? I'm gonna try dropping texture quality from automatic to high and then moderate, maybe it sets it to max by default on my computer?
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
There is no controller aim assist on PC. Treyarch isn't stupid.
andregnreis
Member
So there is a "controller aim assist" on consoles?
I knew there was some auto-aim, but i thought it was just in single-player... i thought in multiplayer didnt exist such a thing.
Of course, this explain everything.
This
I literally turn my back as soon as i flank the team because I know they will respawn literally right behind
njean777
Member
There is aim assist on every console shooter....
Bumblebeetuna
Member
I thought I read somewhere that you can change what you unlock with prestige tokens or whatever. I unlocked Ghost but immediately wished I'd unlocked the Ballista because I always carry a launcher to knock UAV's out of the air anyway.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
When you aim on PS3 or 360, you snap to a target if you aim close to them. There is no handicap on PC. Play with a mouse-keyboard, I promise you'll enjoy it after a while and find that you do better even if you were playing at max sensitivity on pad.
On another note, just spent an hour rendering a 2 minute clip in Theatre mode, and it turned out Youtube "failed to convert the video file". Well that's nice -_- It was a Kill Confirmed game where we went 80-79.
legacyzero
Banned
Well I tried to play another game but just couldn't bring myself to push through an entire match. 8-12 when I left. Zombie mode for me until after Thanksgiving. If they don't do something drastic by Cyber Monday i'm trading this garbage off and going back to BF3.
Man - how fucked up is it to go back to that buggy ass shit (PS3) just because I have a fair shot in a face to face.
Never playing another COD again. R.I.P.
Maybe i'll go back to MW1 if there is anyone left on PS3.
Man - how fucked up is it to go back to that buggy ass shit (PS3) just because I have a fair shot in a face to face.
Never playing another COD again. R.I.P.
Maybe i'll go back to MW1 if there is anyone left on PS3.
The crossbow has,is and always will be my weapon in black ops 1 and 2.
Yea about that....
Voltron64
Member
Modern Warfare / Call of Duty has been my go to online game for what has been years now. I've prestiged who knows how many times. I will not touch BLOPS II multiplayer until a patch is issued. The networking in this game is just wrong. Something is really off and it simply is not worth the frustration anymore. Forced myself to play this double XP weekend...I'm done. GG Treyarch. :|
Every. single. time that I play really well the match does not show up in theater. So frustrating.
Guardian really inspires some hate from the other team. Especially when they destroy one guardian only to discover a second one behind it. :lol
Also, the MMS is useless. It's slow as hell to refresh, way too slow for the fast pace of multiplayer. Maybe it would be useful in some of the hardcore game types.
Guardian really inspires some hate from the other team. Especially when they destroy one guardian only to discover a second one behind it. :lol
Also, the MMS is useless. It's slow as hell to refresh, way too slow for the fast pace of multiplayer. Maybe it would be useful in some of the hardcore game types.
Mattdaddy
Gold Member
So far after extensive scientific research and many a KD ratio sacrificed, I believe the SCAR is the only weapon that can stand against the SMG rampaging horde. But unfortunately I think its also the only weapon in the game with recoil, so you have to deal with that. I put the foregrip on it. Still need to unlock the last 3 ARs and try them.
But Im bound and determined to enjoy this game without joining forces with the SMG heroes.
But Im bound and determined to enjoy this game without joining forces with the SMG heroes.
Halcyon
Member
I use the m27 and outside of lag comp encounters and really close 1 on 1s I think I do pretty well against smgs.
I think its really just the lag that is making people crazy. ARs do fine otherwise. I run with the optic hybrid and have pretty decent range when needed.
When you play games that are more or less 'as it should be' and on maps with range ARs are great.
I think its really just the lag that is making people crazy. ARs do fine otherwise. I run with the optic hybrid and have pretty decent range when needed.
When you play games that are more or less 'as it should be' and on maps with range ARs are great.
JetBlackPanda
Member
So far the campaign is a real shit sandwich. I mean really fucking bad. It was pretty jarring coming right from Halo 4 to Blops 2.
However
The multiplayer is fucking ACE! Love it! I hated MW3 but this feels perfect. Honestly between Halo and Cod online fps fans are spoiled right now.
However
The multiplayer is fucking ACE! Love it! I hated MW3 but this feels perfect. Honestly between Halo and Cod online fps fans are spoiled right now.
Maybe its a blessing on my part, but I have a lot of trouble loading the game up(on 360). I keep putting the game in and it either says open tray or unrecognizable disk. After about 10-30 opens and closes it'll finally read it. I DO have the game installed do its pretty ridiculous, and I had the same problem with mw3. Does Activision cut some corner with their disks or something? I've tried my brothers disk and same thing. Also im still using my white Xbox, but halo 4 and borderlands 2 run just fine.
EleventhDoctor
Banned
The SCAR is actually my favorite weapon. It's very effective....in this game. Which means it's better than actually whipping your dick out and trying to piss on your enemies to death.
OriginofHysteria
Banned
So since I still cannot go online in COD for some odd reason (stupid COD server), ive been playing a lot of zombies. Shit that mode is so fun, esp when you have 4 people playing together on one TV.
hairypeckpeck
Member
Fal with target sight + select fire
+grip +3rd attachment
Forgot who suggested the setup as well, but they were right. I haven't gotten below a 1.50 Kd since I started using it
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