• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Call of Duty: Black Ops II |OT| Black to the Future

I like the Kawaii, but I have a feeling everyone will be using Bacon. lol.

I'm still focused on Diamonds, can't get the triple kill with an RPG to finish of my launchers. My own fault for being lazy, I saw how easy the RPG's challenges were and decided to leave it till later and then they patched it so you now need all three kills to come from the RPG. Grrr.
 

zeelman

Member
I like the Kawaii, but I have a feeling everyone will be using Bacon. lol.

I'm still focused on Diamonds, can't get the triple kill with an RPG to finish of my launchers. My own fault for being lazy, I saw how easy the RPG's challenges were and decided to leave it till later and then they patched it so you now need all three kills to come from the RPG. Grrr.

That's pretty easy, just Tac-Insert by a B flag in Domination. Camp in the area until people come to take B, then fire away!
 

JHall

Member
I like the Kawaii, but I have a feeling everyone will be using Bacon. lol.

I'm still focused on Diamonds, can't get the triple kill with an RPG to finish of my launchers. My own fault for being lazy, I saw how easy the RPG's challenges were and decided to leave it till later and then they patched it so you now need all three kills to come from the RPG. Grrr.

With the RPG triple, use your main weapon to get a double then pull out your RPG and kill someone for the triple. I did it that way.
 
With the RPG triple, use your main weapon to get a double then pull out your RPG and kill someone for the triple. I did it that way.


They already patched that exploit, that why I said I was lazy. I knew that's how you could do it, so I left it for later....and when later came around it wasn't feasible anymore. Doh!
 

Hey You

Member
mJRmvlP.png


l23QQnp.png


It is NOT 20 classes; it's 10 sets of classes and you can't switch between them in game.

Guess I won't be getting it then.
 
That's pretty easy, just Tac-Insert by a B flag in Domination. Camp in the area until people come to take B, then fire away!

In the end that's what I did, got 4 of em trying to take the B Flag on Grind. What a rush seeing that little icon pop telling you.
:D

It's so tough coz on tactical games most people are running Flak Jacket and on the other types it's hard to herd 3 people together for the shot. Not sure why they patched such a non-issue when the game needs much bigger fixes.
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
In the end that's what I did, got 4 of em trying to take the B Flag on Grind. What a rush seeing that little icon pop telling you.
:D

It's so tough coz on tactical games most people are running Flak Jacket and on the other types it's hard to herd 3 people together for the shot. Not sure why they patched such a non-issue when the game needs much bigger fixes.

I was trying to get double kills with the SMAW, and ended up getting a triple kill with it in Team Deathmatch. It was on Meltdown after I killed a camper in one of the buildings, I waited at the bottom of the stairs in the corner and 3 guys came in, the guy in front ended up stopping at the top of the stairs and blocking the other two from passing just long enough for me to blow them up.

It was hard enough finding two people close enough together without flak jacket, I don't look forward to doing it again with the RPG.
 
So I'm pretty sure my router is making this game frustrating for me. I found out that my router does not work properly with Xbox Live. It doesn't reliably give me Open NAT. When I get host, the game becomes unplayable for me. I'm several seconds behind my enemies, and it takes whole clips to kill them. When I ragequit, my friends know I was host because I'm gone after the game finds another host.

What routers do you guys use? I'm thinking of getting this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127215

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/
 

eek5

Member
I was trying to get double kills with the SMAW, and ended up getting a triple kill with it in Team Deathmatch. It was on Meltdown after I killed a camper in one of the buildings, I waited at the bottom of the stairs in the corner and 3 guys came in, the guy in front ended up stopping at the top of the stairs and blocking the other two from passing just long enough for me to blow them up.

It was hard enough finding two people close enough together without flak jacket, I don't look forward to doing it again with the RPG.

Play headquarters. Capture HQ then wait for the other team to destroy it. Run in last second and get a quad feed.

BTW the reload cancel is fast enough that you can get 3 kills w/ 2 RPGs if you can manage that.
 

snacknuts

we all knew her
Bacon looks kind of lame :/

I like the aiming reticles.

So after getting to Prestige 2 on PS3, I just picked up a copy of this game on the 360. I also found out that CoD Elite lets you register one account on each network. I don't suppose it's possible to import my progress from the PS3 side in to my XBL account, is it? It would be aces if I didn't have to go through all that trouble again of unlocking weapon attachments and camo.
 

RSTEIN

Comics, serious business!
So last night I gained an appreciation for the Guardian.

Playing Yemen. Care package drops, it's a Guardian. I say to myself, "ok, time to re-roll!" because I never use the Guardian at all. As I walk over to the care package I notice an enemy bouncing betty a few meters away. I take out my black hat to hack the betty. Oops, I hit the corner of the care package with the black hat so I grab the Guardian by accident.

I go over to the left/upper part of the map to the second floor room that people like to camp out at. I put the Guardian at the top of the stairs facing the door thinking that maybe it will do some good there.

Then, for some reason, the entire enemy team decides to come find me. I rack up ridiculous Guardian suppress points and get a Guardian kill streak. They were like moths to flame.

I finish the game 22-1 without hardly doing anything at all. I didn't get the Merciless (10 kills), Ruthless (15 kills), or Relentless (20 kills) metals because most of my kills came from the Guardian and the other scorestreaks generated from the ridiculous points I racked up with the Guardian. I might try to run with the Guardian more often!
 

snacknuts

we all knew her
So last night I gained an appreciation for the Guardian.

Playing Yemen. Care package drops, it's a Guardian. I say to myself, "ok, time to re-roll!" because I never use the Guardian at all. As I walk over to the care package I notice an enemy bouncing betty a few meters away. I take out my black hat to hack the betty. Oops, I hit the corner of the care package with the black hat so I grab the Guardian by accident.

I go over to the left/upper part of the map to the second floor room that people like to camp out at. I put the Guardian at the top of the stairs facing the door thinking that maybe it will do some good there.

Then, for some reason, the entire enemy team decides to come find me. I rack up ridiculous Guardian suppress points and get a Guardian kill streak. They were like moths to flame.

I finish the game 22-1 without hardly doing anything at all. I didn't get the Merciless (10 kills), Ruthless (15 kills), or Relentless (20 kills) metals because most of my kills came from the Guardian and the other scorestreaks generated from the ridiculous points I racked up with the Guardian. I might try to run with the Guardian more often!

The Guardian can be good if you place it where it's easy to defend, but they're really easy to take out with an EMP. I don't mind when I get one in a care package, but I would never put it in one of my scorestreak slots.
 

Ensoul

Member
The guardian works well in smaller levels. What is a decent combo is getting a guardian and a sentry gun and putting them somewhat close to each other. Yes they are easy to take out with a EMP but for whatever reason many people don't use EMPs. It is surprising how long they will last at times.
 

SadAli

Neo Member
Yeah the Guardian can be pretty effective on objective based games. Some serious destruction can be had by placing it near B Flag. Don't think I'd have the patience to use it as a go to killstreak though.

Always amazed at how few people have a class set up with EMP.
 
May just be about near the end of my time with this. Four prestiges in, have had my best games in any CoD in this game (had a 47-1, 44-2, and a 37-1 in the past week). I play mostly Domination/Kill Confirmed on XB360. But as Max said in his sounding off video, I feel that Im NEVER on even ground with anyone. I'm either cheating others or being cheated. So when I have good games, its not as rewarding as it has been in other CoD games, and it's infuriating when youre on the other side of the coin. There is just so many games where it feels like what Im doing with the controller doesn't really matter that much. What Im seeing and what is actually going down seems to be the farthest apart its ever been, regardless of whether Im having a good game or not.

Other things I hate:
- Quickscopers. Don't see many people complain about this anymore, but I just must be real (un)lucky in that I face 1 to a team full every game, good ones and bad ones. And it doesn't even matter which one they are, if they go 1-30 or 30-1. I hate them because they are useless to both sides. I hate losing a scorestreak because some kid jumps in the air, flails his sniper rifle and shots a shot 10 feet to my right.... and scores a one hit kill. Fuck that. Also, the real good ones that run around and use it as a shotgun.
- Lightweight Knife Runners. Have never seen a good one, but again, sucks to lose a scorestreak to someone running across 50 feet and killing you with a huge lunge.
- Head Glitching. Seems worse to me in this game than previous ones. So many times I get shot by someone who has complete cover on my screen.
- Being a solo player. I can't count how many times in the past month alone that my team is just the worst trash ever, being dominated within seconds it seems. My win ratio is at about .6 or so. Hate when I go something super mediocre, like 16-15, 2 caps, a defend, and Im first on my team by 1500+ points. Just so many people I want to pull "The Bob's" with. "You're not killing anyone at all, you're walking past capture points that are going to easily captured, losing out on 200 points, not defending them.... what is it you exactly do when playing this game?"

But as Max said, I think this is the best CoD in terms of weapon balancing. Not to say its perfect or that some are not better than others, but I think every class is playable. I like most of the maps, only one I really don't care for is Turbine.
 

snacknuts

we all knew her
- Being a solo player. I can't count how many times in the past month alone that my team is just the worst trash ever, being dominated within seconds it seems. My win ratio is at about .6 or so. Hate when I go something super mediocre, like 16-15, 2 caps, a defend, and Im first on my team by 1500+ points. Just so many people I want to pull "The Bob's" with. "You're not killing anyone at all, you're walking past capture points that are going to easily captured, losing out on 200 points, not defending them.... what is it you exactly do when playing this game?"
This shit is the reason that I only play TDM, although even there you can have jackasses on your team. I had a game on Hydro a couple days ago where some dude on my team kept blowing himself up with a rocket launcher as soon as he spawned. He finished the game at 0-108. It didn't hurt my team (and honestly probably helped since he was responsible for zero of the points the other team had), but it's still annoying and stupid. Why bother playing?
 

SeanR1221

Member
I've been getting fucking infuriated when people re roll my care package.

I swear they swoop in and automatically re roll it. Why!?! A escort drone dropped and some dick re rolled it!
 

lamaroo

Unconfirmed Member
I've been getting fucking infuriated when people re roll my care package.

I swear they swoop in and automatically re roll it. Why!?! A escort drone dropped and some dick re rolled it!

Opposite happened to me. Got a UAV, went to re roll it but some idiot on my team was trying to capture it so I wasn't able to.
 

RSTEIN

Comics, serious business!
I've been getting fucking infuriated when people re roll my care package.

I swear they swoop in and automatically re roll it. Why!?! A escort drone dropped and some dick re rolled it!

I run with the Black hat to protect my care packages from the enemy AND teammates. lol
 

adelante

Member
I've been getting fucking infuriated when people re roll my care package.

I swear they swoop in and automatically re roll it. Why!?! A escort drone dropped and some dick re rolled it!

Haha! I do this whenever I'm near a dropped care package that belongs to a teammate...BUT 9 times out of 10 I reroll, it switches to a better scorestreak. So you got a Hunter Killer Drone? No..what you actually need is ..let's see.. *rerolls* whaddaya know...a UAV! Yes I decide what's good for you!
 
stealth chopper hasnt been too effective for me.
thinking about using the agr. do you guys let wall-e do its thing, or do you take the time to control it?
 

Shady859

Member
So I already bought a season pass for 4000 points and now they release 2000 points worth of stuff not in the season pass? Nice.....
 

Ensoul

Member
Other things I hate:
- Quickscopers. Don't see many people complain about this anymore, but I just must be real (un)lucky in that I face 1 to a team full every game, good ones and bad ones. And it doesn't even matter which one they are, if they go 1-30 or 30-1. I hate them because they are useless to both sides. I hate losing a scorestreak because some kid jumps in the air, flails his sniper rifle and shots a shot 10 feet to my right.... and scores a one hit kill. Fuck that. Also, the real good ones that run around and use it as a shotgun.
- Lightweight Knife Runners. Have never seen a good one, but again, sucks to lose a scorestreak to someone running across 50 feet and killing you with a huge lunge.
- Head Glitching. Seems worse to me in this game than previous ones. So many times I get shot by someone who has complete cover on my screen.
- Being a solo player. I can't count how many times in the past month alone that my team is just the worst trash ever, being dominated within seconds it seems. My win ratio is at about .6 or so. Hate when I go something super mediocre, like 16-15, 2 caps, a defend, and Im first on my team by 1500+ points. Just so many people I want to pull "The Bob's" with. "You're not killing anyone at all, you're walking past capture points that are going to easily captured, losing out on 200 points, not defending them.... what is it you exactly do when playing this game?"

But as Max said, I think this is the best CoD in terms of weapon balancing. Not to say its perfect or that some are not better than others, but I think every class is playable. I like most of the maps, only one I really don't care for is Turbine.

I agree. No idea why they brought quickscopeing back. Makes me crazy when I see it.
The frigging knife runners get me 50% of the time. Not because they are sneaking up on me but because I shoot them 4 times yet somehow they can power through my bullets and stab me. Head glitching is a major issue. The bullets should come out of the gun not someones head. No idea how this was not addressed.

Being a solo player: Bingo. Lost count of how many times I was playing domination, I was about halfway through capturing point B and my teammate simply runs by me, does not help get the capture and and I get killed.

I said this before and while people may not agree: The way people try to get the objectives is:

A) Don't show their kills in death in objective mode. Just show how many captures/defends they have.

B)All their kills in objective modes do not count toward their overal K/D ratio.

Or

C) You can only see your own overall K/D ratio. This will prevent people from just going around killing people to improve theirs if they cannot show off their 3.45 K/D ratio to everybody.
 

Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
So I already bought a season pass for 4000 points and now they release 2000 points worth of stuff not in the season pass? Nice.....

It's pretty garbage content. Hideous weapon skins and extra classes that can't be accessed mid round? Massive waste of money.
 

Jrmint

Member
So I already bought a season pass for 4000 points and now they release 2000 points worth of stuff not in the season pass? Nice.....
Best advice I've heard with the AGR is control it to a heavily contested area, such as a b flag for example and then let it do it's thing. It is much more accurate than you can be with it.

Oops I quoted the wrong post, it's pretty clear which I was referring to though.
 
stealth chopper hasnt been too effective for me.
thinking about using the agr. do you guys let wall-e do its thing, or do you take the time to control it?

It's pretty useless not controlling it and when you use it, you want to be where the enemy is respawning, so you have a constant swarm of people to kill. It's good for 15+ kills everytime if you use it that way, especially on maps like slums, cargo, and standoff.
 

GodofWine

Member
Did anyone feel like the game was slow after the patch...felt like my run speed and distance were lower...i even upped my sensitivity which ive never done yet in a COD...or I may have just been tired...dunno.

My kdrs were basically sub.75 too..been playing at a 1.5 to 2 rate in recent months...just an odd feel while playing last night

(and my guns were not nerfed by the patch)
 

Gav47

Member
stealth chopper hasnt been too effective for me.
thinking about using the agr. do you guys let wall-e do its thing, or do you take the time to control it?

Its useful in objective games for holding points, call it in and drive it to a good location and then hang around with it to pick off any stragglers. Personally, if I were regularly hitting that high of killstreaks I'd use the VSAT.
 

rbanke

Member
Another update where they didn't address one goddamn thing about the networking or lag compensation. Black Ops 2 is now officially retired for me. Fuck off, Treyarch.

I'm with you. I find it completely amazing that the netcode has gotten progressively worse with BO, MW3 then BO2. After so many years of playing COD games, the connection bullshit is what will stop me from buying any more of them until this shit is no longer a problem. I put it on the shelf a few weeks ago when it felt obvious that nothing will change. For the first time since MW2 I was into a COD enough that I was prepared to buy map packs, but I can't support this crap anymore.
 
It's pretty garbage content. Hideous weapon skins and extra classes that can't be accessed mid round? Massive waste of money.

I might buy the class pack, simply because having access to a massive 100 classes might be worth two dollars, even if it means a lot of overlap. Have 10 classes for every game mode!

Now we just need to be able to tie killstreaks to classes.
 

Nabs

Member
I might buy the class pack, simply because having access to a massive 100 classes might be worth two dollars, even if it means a lot of overlap. Have 10 classes for every game mode!

Now we just need to be able to tie killstreaks to classes.

Damn. I'd pay 2 bucks for that.
 
Damn. I'd pay 2 bucks for that.

I like the way it is now better. Main reason is that if you switch classes between rounds, you'd lose your killstreak, which was incredibly dumb. Also, it's just a pain in the ass to constantly set the same killstreaks over and over again in every class.
 

Ensoul

Member
Man I just got done playing for two hours on Xbox. No idea what the hell is going on but I finished positive ONCE. I can tell you right now that my first six bullets are not doing shit. Either I am shooting at ghosts on the replay or I am getting 5-6 hitmarkers then the person shoots me and dies. So frustrated right now with this game.
 
Man I just got done playing for two hours on Xbox. No idea what the hell is going on but I finished positive ONCE. I can tell you right now that my first six bullets are not doing shit. Either I am shooting at ghosts on the replay or I am getting 5-6 hitmarkers then the person shoots me and dies. So frustrated right now with this game.

did you try bootcamp first? i did it just to get a feel when i first got the game (first cod ive played in years), and i think the level of play is definitely a little lower than just going straight into multiplayer.
 
May just be about near the end of my time with this. Four prestiges in, have had my best games in any CoD in this game (had a 47-1, 44-2, and a 37-1 in the past week). I play mostly Domination/Kill Confirmed on XB360. But as Max said in his sounding off video, I feel that Im NEVER on even ground with anyone. I'm either cheating others or being cheated. So when I have good games, its not as rewarding as it has been in other CoD games, and it's infuriating when youre on the other side of the coin. There is just so many games where it feels like what Im doing with the controller doesn't really matter that much. What Im seeing and what is actually going down seems to be the farthest apart its ever been, regardless of whether Im having a good game or not.

Other things I hate:
- Quickscopers. Don't see many people complain about this anymore, but I just must be real (un)lucky in that I face 1 to a team full every game, good ones and bad ones. And it doesn't even matter which one they are, if they go 1-30 or 30-1. I hate them because they are useless to both sides. I hate losing a scorestreak because some kid jumps in the air, flails his sniper rifle and shots a shot 10 feet to my right.... and scores a one hit kill. Fuck that. Also, the real good ones that run around and use it as a shotgun.
- Lightweight Knife Runners. Have never seen a good one, but again, sucks to lose a scorestreak to someone running across 50 feet and killing you with a huge lunge.
- Head Glitching. Seems worse to me in this game than previous ones. So many times I get shot by someone who has complete cover on my screen.
- Being a solo player. I can't count how many times in the past month alone that my team is just the worst trash ever, being dominated within seconds it seems. My win ratio is at about .6 or so. Hate when I go something super mediocre, like 16-15, 2 caps, a defend, and Im first on my team by 1500+ points. Just so many people I want to pull "The Bob's" with. "You're not killing anyone at all, you're walking past capture points that are going to easily captured, losing out on 200 points, not defending them.... what is it you exactly do when playing this game?"

But as Max said, I think this is the best CoD in terms of weapon balancing. Not to say its perfect or that some are not better than others, but I think every class is playable. I like most of the maps, only one I really don't care for is Turbine.

I actually think that compared to previous CoDs this one isn't that bad in terms of headglitching.

That isn't to say there aren't a bunch of BS headglitch spots (barrels on Cargo, that box around the corner on slums, 99% of carrier and aftermath, outdoor hallway on overflow, etc.), but 90% of the potential headglitch spots allow you to shoot through the wall below their head.
 
Top Bottom