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[jiien]

FMJ? Not as far as I'm concerned. And I've gotten a fair amount of kills through walls. It's not worth giving up a Red Dot for, anyway. Red dot adds some much needed long range accuracy to the gun.

Like I said, I tried out the FAL, got used to it, racked up some nice kills/upgrades, and just recently went back. The FAL has brutal recoil by comparison. The FAMAS is very accurate, but so weak... even with Stopping Power. Once I made the switch from FAMAS to SCAR, I never went back. I could take down people with the SCAR in half the time. I only tried out the TAR a little bit, but its range left much to be desired. The M-16 is allegedly the best rifle in the game, but I've heard mixed things. I haven't unlocked it yet.

Just for the record, Red Dot doesn't really add accuracy or range. It's just perceived, because you think you aim better with a red dot. (I think you knew that, but I just want new players to understand that any type of sight isn't actually improving your gun). I loved the Red Dot, until I realized the power of some of the other attachments, and then forced myself to start using my SCAR without it. Not only does it cripple most people that try picking up my gun (if I die), but since I'm now less reliant on always having that Red Dot, I'm better with most guns I pick up over all, and I can load out many different attachments WITHOUT having bling. IMO, Bling is a HUGE waste of a perk if you're using a sight. Sleight of Hand is much better than Bling.

I'm about to get the ACR, and I'm excited. I usually use the SCAR, though the M4 handles almost exactly the same, so I occasionally use that for a change of pace. From my experience of the ACR in single player, and picking it up every so often in Multiplayer, it's going to be a SCAR + 1.

 

[ExtraKr1spy]

FAL
Silencer/RDS

Stinger, Claymore
Bling
Cold blooded Pro
Ninja Pro

becoming my favorite in hardcore now.

The advantage of the FAMAS/M16 is that when the first shot from the burst connects the other 2 shots from the burst will automatically.

 

[ZZMitch]

We just got nuked.

It's weird, I never experienced any spawn killing until I joined a GAF party, then all of a sudden I'm getting spawn killed let and right!

What platform were you playing? I have been trying to meet up with some GAFers.

And holy crap is the Mini-Uzi a beast in this game.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Just for the record, Red Dot doesn't really add accuracy or range. It's just perceived, because you think you aim better with a red dot. (I think you knew that, but I just want new players to understand that any type of sight isn't actually improving your gun). I loved the Red Dot, until I realized the power of some of the other attachments, and then forced myself to start using my SCAR without it. Not only does it cripple most people that try picking up my gun (if I die), but since I'm now less reliant on always having that Red Dot, I'm better with most guns I pick up over all, and I can load out many different attachments WITHOUT having bling. IMO, Bling is a HUGE waste of a perk if you're using a sight. Sleight of Hand is much better than Bling.

I'm about to get the ACR, and I'm excited. I usually use the SCAR, though the M4 handles almost exactly the same, so I occasionally use that for a change of pace. From my experience of the ACR in single player, and picking it up every so often in Multiplayer, it's going to be a SCAR + 1.

It does add accuracy especially when moving. There is a big difference shooting a weapon full auto with iron sights over with a red dot. With iron sights there is an obvious recoil on the gun which magically disappears when using red dots and all you get is basic weapon spread.

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

I find I am hard pressed to kill people with it. But damn is it ever a sexy sounding rifle.

That was me with the M14/G3, just hopeless. Couldn't get a kill without having the drop on someone. I'm gonna try the FAL though, might be fun. I'm a little surprised the M14 doesn't make a repeat appearance, considering how awesome it is in Spec Ops.

It's weird, I never experienced any spawn killing until I joined a GAF party, then all of a sudden I'm getting spawn killed let and right!

By the GAFers? Hahahah, funny. I never got spawn killed as badly as I got owned in Scrapyard. It was so f'ing bad you just had to wonder if IW would change the game a little to vary the spawn points.

 

[GuardianE]

Just for the record, Red Dot doesn't really add accuracy or range. It's just perceived, because you think you aim better with a red dot. (I think you knew that, but I just want new players to understand that any type of sight isn't actually improving your gun). I loved the Red Dot, until I realized the power of some of the other attachments, and then forced myself to start using my SCAR without it. Not only does it cripple most people that try picking up my gun (if I die), but since I'm now less reliant on always having that Red Dot, I'm better with most guns I pick up over all, and I can load out many different attachments WITHOUT having bling. IMO, Bling is a HUGE waste of a perk if you're using a sight. Sleight of Hand is much better than Bling.

I'm about to get the ACR, and I'm excited. I usually use the SCAR, though the M4 handles almost exactly the same, so I occasionally use that for a change of pace. From my experience of the ACR in single player, and picking it up every so often in Multiplayer, it's going to be a SCAR + 1.

Hm, are you sure? The accuracy stats change when adding the red dot. I know that people keep claiming that the stats lie.

The iron sights is an interesting approach. I'm not sure if I can go back to iron sights now that I'm so used to the Red Dot. The other attachments are nice, but I'm not sure what I'd actually use. Heartbeat sensor, maybe. I loathe the grenade launcher. While the attachment shotgun sounds amazing, I'd rather just have a shotgun sidearm.

The beauty of the Red Dot is that it zooms in just slightly (not obnoxiously so, like the Holographic) so you have a better view of the opposition. One of the issues that I have with Iron Sights is that you can only see above where you're aiming, since the gun obstructs your view of anything below. The Red Dot seems to make headshots significantly easier for me.

 

[cameltoe]

if you are playing DOM and only have one flag you are fucked and will spawn right around it...easy pickings

 

[jiien]

It does add accuracy especially when moving. There is a big difference shooting a weapon full auto with iron sights over with a red dot. With iron sights there is an obvious recoil on the gun which magically disappears when using red dots and all you get is basic weapon spread.

Are you sure? I definitely don't really see a difference. I mean, I've spent a shitload of time with the SCAR, it's the only weapon I've used in the last 35 levels or so since I got it. And it feels pretty much the same to me...I seriously think it's just perceived, but I guess I could be wrong. : T

(Maybe I want to badly to believe that my opinion on the overuse of Bling is right xD)

 

[ExtraKr1spy]

That was me with the M14/G3, just hopeless. Couldn't get a kill without having the drop on someone. I'm gonna try the FAL though, might be fun. I'm a little surprised the M14 doesn't make a repeat appearance, considering how awesome it is in Spec Ops.


By the GAFers? Hahahah, funny. I never got spawn killed as badly as I got owned in Scrapyard. It was so f'ing bad you just had to wonder if IW would change the game a little to vary the spawn points.

The only thing I like about the spawn points over CoD 4 is that its harder to get pinned down to one side of a map. In Bog if you spawned opfor the Marines side could easily pin you down with snipers call and call in air strikes and helicopters for those 750-170 lopsided matches. It doesn't happen much(if at all) in MW2 but sometimes it'll spawn you front of people or in an open area with multiple sides you can get picked off by snipers(spawning where the mounted machine guns are in Wasteland).

 

[GuardianE]

Are you sure? I definitely don't really see a difference. I mean, I've spent a shitload of time with the SCAR, it's the only weapon I've used in the last 35 levels or so since I got it. And it feels pretty much the same to me...I seriously think it's just perceived, but I guess I could be wrong. : T

(Maybe I want to badly to believe that my opinion on the overuse of Bling is right xD)

It could be because the SCAR hardly has any recoil to begin with.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

FAL
Silencer/RDS

Stinger, Claymore
Bling
Cold blooded Pro
Ninja Pro

becoming my favorite in hardcore now.

This is my exact load out except I put the grenade launcher instead of the red dot on so I can hit people from a distance with it.

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

Iron sights are funny... I hated having to use those in COD4 -- made grenade launchers and silencers pretty useless to me.

However now, being able to red-dot AND newb-tube... well, the world is my oyster.

 

[The Lamonster]

Just for the record, Red Dot doesn't really add accuracy or range. It's just perceived, because you think you aim better with a red dot. (I think you knew that, but I just want new players to understand that any type of sight isn't actually improving your gun). I loved the Red Dot, until I realized the power of some of the other attachments, and then forced myself to start using my SCAR without it. Not only does it cripple most people that try picking up my gun (if I die), but since I'm now less reliant on always having that Red Dot, I'm better with most guns I pick up over all, and I can load out many different attachments WITHOUT having bling. IMO, Bling is a HUGE waste of a perk if you're using a sight. Sleight of Hand is much better than Bling.

I'm about to get the ACR, and I'm excited. I usually use the SCAR, though the M4 handles almost exactly the same, so I occasionally use that for a change of pace. From my experience of the ACR in single player, and picking it up every so often in Multiplayer, it's going to be a SCAR + 1.

wrong - ACOG increases range.

 

[surferkid]

So is the increased rate of fire + red dot a good combo to use for the bling perk on submachine guns (the p90 specifically)?

 

[MThanded]

Im addicted to FMJ. Especially for my machine pistol. I used that a ridiculous amount.

 

[GuardianE]

Im addicted to FMJ.

Does it just let you shoot through more materials? Like walls that you otherwise wouldn't have been able to?

 

[MThanded]

Does it just let you shoot through more materials? Like walls that you otherwise wouldn't have been able to?

I believe so. I have killed quite a few people with machine pistol through wall shots.
If not it at least makes the bullets more deadly.

 

[Windom Earle]

Started playing this tonight, and OMG is it ugly after getting used to U2 graphics :lol

Still awesome action and wow @

Spoiler

airport scene. Totally did not expect that.

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

wrong - ACOG increases range.

Am I the only person that HATES the ACOG? In COD4, when you applied it to any weapon, it INCREASED RANGE and DECREASED ACCURACY -- how useless is that? I've had to force myself to use this thing to get the thermal scope on a few weapons and I loathe it.

Nothing like having a bead on someone from halfway across the map, firing off a few rounds and having them run away 'cause the thing is so untrue.

Even worse up close of course.

 

[Weenerz]

Well that sucked, I got 7 kills in a row with a knife then we got the warning about a nuke about to go off, so I had to hurry up and use all 3 of my saved kill streaks before I lost the free xp :lol

 

[MThanded]

Does the nuke show up in the care package? I hope not:lol

How the hell are you guys getting nuked? People must be demolishing

 

[The Chef]

Does a silencer reduce recoil or am I imagining this?

Well that sucked, I got 7 kills in a row with a knife then we got the warning about a nuke about to go off, so I had to hurry up and use all 3 of my saved kill streaks before I lost the free xp :lol

Even if you die you still get to keep all your kill streaks no?

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

Well that sucked, I got 7 kills in a row with a knife then we got the warning about a nuke about to go off, so I had to hurry up and use all 3 of my saved kill streaks before I lost the free xp :lol

Got a C-130, waiting to use it until we went to overtime, lost my connection to server -- kills went to 0, and ta-da, no C-130. Kinda broke my heart.

 

[Dolla Dolla]

Even if you die you still get to keep all your kill streaks no?

Nuke ends the game.

 

[ZZMitch]

Does a silencer reduce recoil or am I imagining this?



Even if you die you still get to keep all your kill streaks no?

The nuke ends the game, kill streaks don't carry over through games.

edit- DAMN DD

 

[The Chef]

Nuke ends the game.

It ENDS the game!? That is ridiculous :lol

 

[The Lamonster]

It ENDS the game!? That is ridiculous :lol

Does that in real life too

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

It ENDS the game!? That is ridiculous :lol

Not only does it end it, but the side that didn't have the nuke (if it's a team game) loses. It's pretty humiliating.

 

[The Lamonster]

Not only does it end it, but the side that didn't have the nuke (if it's a team game) loses. It's pretty humiliating.

I've played multiplayer for about 11 hours total and still haven't seen a nuke.

 

[Dolla Dolla]

It ENDS the game!? That is ridiculous :lol

Yeah. And the team that uses it wins automatically. I don't care if the team gets a 100 killstreak without dying, I think the Nuke is kind of stupid. It kills EVERYONE in the game.

 

[ExtraKr1spy]

nuke should kill everyone them make them respawn and spread pockets of radiation all over the map.

I've tried with the grenade launcher but I ended up barely using it. Might slap it back and get the shotty attachment.

 

[The Librarian]

I've played multiplayer for about 11 hours total and still haven't seen a nuke.

I don't know how many hours I've played MP, but I still have yet to encounter a nuke.

Edit - I'm a level 45, by the way.

 

[Yeef]

What platform were you playing? I have been trying to meet up with some GAFers.

PS3

By the GAFers?

With GAF

 

[Dolla Dolla]

I don't know how many hours I've played MP, but I still have yet to encounter a nuke.

I experienced my first nuke last night. I thought it was going to be monumental, but, alas, it wasn't.

 

[pj]

I don't really have a problem with the nuke. If your team is doing to badly that a dude gets 25 kills in a row, you were probably going to lose anyway. It's just saving you a few more deaths.

 

[The Chef]

I'm dying to see someone use this thing now.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I'm dying to see someone use this thing now.

Player gets a good streak, earns the Chopper Gunner, nobody shoots him down, and he deploys the nuke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogX5Qdma83U

 

[Dolla Dolla]

I don't really have a problem with the nuke. If your team is doing to badly that a dude gets 25 kills in a row, you were probably going to lose anyway. It's just saving you a few more deaths.

Not always. I was playing Domination, and our team was winning. Just so happened that one guy on the opposite team got an AC-130, and the rest was history.

 

[ZZMitch]

PS3


With GAF

I am playing the PS3 version as well! If you need another player add me... I have the same name as here.

 

[MThanded]

Yeah. And the team that uses it wins automatically. I don't care if the team gets a 100 killstreak without dying, I think the Nuke is kind of stupid. It kills EVERYONE in the game.

I think your team deserves it. If someone has a 25 kill streak then the game is telling you its time to end the match. This is like the mercy rule.

 

[Borgnine]

Am I the only person that HATES the ACOG? I've had to force myself to use this thing to get the thermal scope on a few weapons and I loathe it.

Nothing like having a bead on someone from halfway across the map, firing off a few rounds and having them run away 'cause the thing is so untrue.

Even worse up close of course.

I'm with you. Working on RPD challenges and it was a nightmare. I had to bling it out with a grip and lay prone hoping someone would come across my path in order to hit anything.

 

[ACESandEIGHTS]

I experienced my first nuke last night. I thought it was going to be monumental, but, alas, it wasn't.

Yeah, it's kind of a denoument -- just a bright sky. I thought there would be a mushroom cloud, pillar of flame, something, anything. Sergeant Jackson crawling around on the ground, something.

 

[Zod the Bear]

I don't really have a problem with the nuke. If your team is doing to badly that a dude gets 25 kills in a row, you were probably going to lose anyway. It's just saving you a few more deaths.

Meh, but the losing team can still deploy it and insta-win, despite being pretty far behind in capture games. I think it'd be a lot better if it ended the match and gave the kills to the nuke-deployer, but didn't give an instant win. /shrug.

 

[TurboLibre]

Does the host migration fail as much for you guys as it does for me? It seems like it just ends the game most of the time.

 

[NameGenerated]

I don't know how many hours I've played MP, but I still have yet to encounter a nuke.

I've played around 20 hours and haven't seen one, but I've been in a game with my friend where he had more than a 25 killstreak but didn't have it equipped.

 

[jiien]

wrong - ACOG increases range.

Okay, you're right, but I thought people would understand I was talking about Red Dot (and Holographic, but most people use Red Dot if anything). And I forgot about ACOG, since it's so little used by most people (in my experience, anyway). My mistake.

 

[chubigans]

Yeah, it's kind of a denoument -- just a bright sky. I thought there would be a mushroom cloud, pillar of flame, something, anything. Sergeant Jackson crawling around on the ground, something.

Or at least everyone exploding into a puff of smoke.

 

[The Librarian]

I've played around 20 hours and haven't seen one, but I've been in a game with my friend where he had more than a 25 killstreak but didn't have it equipped.

It's probably what happens. Most people acknowledge the likelihood of them getting a 25 kill streak (slim) and so don't have the killstreak reward equipped.

 

[MThanded]

oh nvm

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Seen both a nuke and an EMP. EMP is much more impressive. It turns MW2 into a FPS from 1995 :lol