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If its just a port will people really double dip for the same experience again plus splitting their multiplayer investment?
Call of Duty Vita confirmed for Fall release.
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Since when do you have to be at home to use WiFi? Free public Wifi is pretty common and most people have WiFi access during their downtime at work or school. Also it seems like most people in CoD don't communicate that well, but since Vita has a built in mic you may see more communication.
This is CoD you know. lol
GhostTrick
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Yep, that's why I said public places, but as I also said, it's not comfortable as home for online gaming.
That would be terrible design on their behalf though. The game should compliment it's console counterpart. Single user account over the two, do a couple of games at lunch that benefit you when you're home etc.
Really the only place I think this SKU could flourish is schools personally.
Ha ha ha! Oh wow.
It really isn't. CoD has sold about 100 M since it became popular (CoD4). Mario platformers & Mario Kart have sold over 130 M since MKDS.
Back on topic, I highly doubt your average CoD fans will drop close to $300 on a Vita + memory card and $50 on a portable MW4 instead of buying it on PS360 where all of their friends play, even if cross platform is available. But that's just me.
Maybe it could have ps3 cloud saving.
If it's a port the multiplayer experience gathered could be shared across both Vita and PS3.
COD on Vita/Wii U will be interesting to see, control wise. Since they both don't have clicky sticks.
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frankie_baby said:
Noone forgot about the Wii, they just looked at the sales figures for most third party software, particularly anything not targeted at a casual player and decided that despite the install-base, it simply wasn't viable even with the reduced dev costs.
Same thing happened with DS. It's a major problem for Nintendo that there have been remarkably few third-party success stories over the years despite their dominance in the market.
frankie_baby
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And people will actually spend nearly £100 on one game?
Not with anyone's netcode.
3G as a technology cannot handle online mutliplayer for a FPS.
Those expecting people to go out en masse and buy a Vita for CoD don't understand the handheld market or the FPS market.
I mean if the bar is the GTA PSP games, I guess it could reach it. But in a world where the major software on the competitor's handheld is destined to sell 20 million, 5-8 million worldwide after several years on the market isn't going to be a #gamechanger.
Also, I'd argue the appeal for GTA translates over to a handheld much more than a FPS.
If it is cross platform they could buy it to play with those friends when on breaks or lunch at work. Or in other situations when not at home. If they got cross platform working I think it could be huge if marketed right.
Why are you comparing one franchise since 2007 to one since 2005?
How much has Mario sold since November '07?
LiquidMetal14
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If this is like the rumored cross platform PS3/PSV play then hang onto your asses.
These big titles should come as a PS3+PSV bundled at a discounted price. Also have a cross over gameplay b/w PS3 and PSv to maximize the incentive to buy the bundle for those have both. I really like the idea of playing on the PS3 but then continue on the go on the PSV start right where I left.
No one is forcing people to buy both but it's an option. If I want to play on PC and PS3 I can. If I want to play on Vita and PC I can. What's the problem?
frankie_baby
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Early "core" games sold well then developers started to forget so your point makes no sense
radioheadrule83
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This is great in theory, and like I said, a certain audience will be able to do that and love it -- but most people aren't going to sit and play in a public place with wifi (a lot of places have charge-gates or sign-in gateways on their free wifi, some of them time out, some of them block certain ports and protocols), a lot of people are just going to play the single player on the move, local multiplayer or play at home. And I definitely feel that limits the appeal compared to the home console SKUs. Don't get me wrong, a nice, home-console faithful version of a COD will be a boon to the device, and it'll be able to pull it off way better than 3DS can... I just don't think its a megaton killer-app.
I really dont see this selling that well. First the Vita marketshare is going to be super tiny and secondly they are gonna have to do some amazing marketing including deceptive practices to get it to take off. Multiplayer will be useless in 3G and it wont be long before schools etc ban the device if people try to use wifi for playing COD
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He could have easily compaired CoD since 2005 it wouldn't have made a difference.
nincompoop
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frankie_baby
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I honestly can't see the number of people taking that option being higher than double digit figures, if people want to spend that money they'll either buy one game and loads of dlc or 2 games, they won't buy the same game twice
frankie_baby
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A logo last year and a couple of quotes (from Sony)
Of course it would make a difference. The first two years of Mario Kart DS and a year of NSMBs DS are probably a fair few copies.
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I honestly doubt Activision cares about CoD Vita, it's probably another CoD Ds to them, an additional stream of revenue but nothing major.
boyshine
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I dont know how to be polite about this, but if anyone thinks theres a chance in hell of COD going big on handhelds, youre not playing COD. Close-to-console graphics, PS3 cross-play, PS3+Vita combo release.. none of it would matter.
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Saint Titanfall
Most of those games were also released earlier also (which obviously pays a factor). The only recent mario's released are both on the 3ds, while impressive on the platform aren't particularily significant for the franchise yet.
Sorry, but the facts don't seem to support your position.
I don't understand why people are under the misconception that the DS didn't push 3rd party sales at all....
It's the game that's selling Xbox 360's so I would say yes. That's not to say other games don't drive the system, but this game is the one that sells the console. I believe it's the game that made the 360 sell so much the past two months.
frankie_baby
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It's sold gettin on for 5 million on a system thats only sold 15 million and its still selling I'd call that significant
Like I said you don't have to buy two copies of the same game. There will be people who buy it only on the Vita and others that will buy it on the HD consoles. Having the Vita as an option to play a proper CoD is a good thing for those that want it. If you're not interested then no problem.
It's like saying why make CoD for PS3 when I've already got a PC. Not everyone has the same consoles or hardware as you. There will be people with a Vita only and this is a nice way for them to play the same games as everyone else.
test_account
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To be fair, he did say "anything not targeted at a casual player". That graph doesnt say anything about what types of 3rd party games that have sold what.
Casual games bro
GhostTrick
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Also, keep in mind that Activision is making this game. So I don't think that it will be a good port, as they don't even push Xbox 360 or PS3. The problem will not be the Vita hardware, but the lazyness of Activision.
I don't think people would want that, they wouldn't trust it to be good. It needs to be the real normal PS360 game.
HUGE.
In the UK, the best selling PSP game of 2011 was FIFA 12. The second best selling was....FIFA 11.
PS3 2011
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
2. FIFA 12
Xbox 360 2011
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
2. FIFA 12
PSP 2011
1. FIFA 12
2. FIFA 11
FIFA fans can't get enough FIFA, just as COD fans won't be able to get enough COD.
In the UK, the best selling PSP game of 2011 was FIFA 12. The second best selling was....FIFA 11.
PS3 2011
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
2. FIFA 12
Xbox 360 2011
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
2. FIFA 12
PSP 2011
1. FIFA 12
2. FIFA 11
FIFA fans can't get enough FIFA, just as COD fans won't be able to get enough COD.
So? This is the first handheld that can actual run it on par with consoles so that's going to be big. Some of you I wonder lost your man badges some where. Ive never seen so many Debbie downers and naggers. If it's not 3DS it's VITA. Buy one and be happy or buy both and live the dream. No need to cry everytime.
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nincompoop said:
Iwata would disagree with you.
Consider how few titles Nintendo publish in a year, its not good. It'd also look a whole lot worse if you subtract the exceptions that prove the rule like Zumba and Just Dance.
Successful devices like Wii and DS represent a lot of money on the table, no serious business can "forget" about them. If they aren't receiving support its an entirely deliberate decision not to focus on them.
UberTag
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COD is an important title for Sony to have in their arsenal. Whether this turns out to be a mere port or whether some of the system's unique features (gyro aiming, rear touchpad, Near, 3G, etc.) are harnessed remains to be seen. At the very least having Black Ops 2 on board to showcase the system as a potential FPS powerhouse is a good thing.
I won't be supporting it due to my long-standing boycott of all things Activision but I'm still glad it's coming.
I won't be supporting it due to my long-standing boycott of all things Activision but I'm still glad it's coming.
frankie_baby
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Plenty of games not targeted at casual players sold well in the early days of the Wii, then 3rd parties just started throwing either casual crap or dumbed down games at it and things went wrong, I've often wondered what would have happened had the Wii had a version of COD4 that had launched at the same time as the other versions, would it have just been a profitable million seller like the other wig COD games were or could it have been a break out multi million selling mega hit as on the hd twins, but we'll never know
LiquidMetal14
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Any decent PSV news will get shit on it seems. I can't see this as nothing but potentially awesome. I haven't bought a day 1 CoD since Black Ops. If this is on Vita I will most certainly be interested. It should look amazing on Vita. And if it's cross platform, LET US PRAY.