Can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games?

Toodles said:
Can a proper sportsman ignore soccer?

Can a proper historian ignore WW2?

Can a proper porn enthusiast ignore Lexi Belle?



Silly thread title.
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Ugh, you like Lexi Belle?

Cheska said:
I don't understand why someone who considers themselves a gamer would want to ignore Nintendo games. Despite them being overall pricks right now, they do manage to release quality games when they actually care to. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is considered one of the best games of this generation.
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Why would you have to play nintendo games to be a proper gamer? You're not a real gamer if you don't like nintendo games?
 
You can't ingnore mario and zelda, just got a 3DS to play zelda ocarina of time, and gonna get a new wiimote with skyward sword... I didnt play wii after mario galaxy 2
 
TwinIonEngines said:
french said:
Didn't have a GC, don't have a Wii, won't buy a Wii U. It's very easy.
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The question isn't whether it's easy, but whether it's proper. Sheesh.
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This answers the question fine, he is stating indirectly (implication) that he is a proper gamer yet doesn't play Nintendo games.

This idea that you could be defined as proper or improper based on not liking or ignoring one developers output is ridiculous anyway. Here's a similarly stupid question to elucidate, Are you a real reader if you ignore J K Rowlings books?... Smh, Nintendork indeed
 
I don't think it's fair. Nintendo offers the most raw form of gaming entertainment. The company is run by very philosophical people, that introspectively find the fundamentals of what makes games fun. They have some of the most talented employees, and constantly maintain a small number of highly skilled and creative minds, regardless of how much demand there is for more content. That is courage or long term business acumen.

Whether it be graphics, sound, creativity, programming, or translation and interpretation they are leading. While many would say the Wii was underpowered, Nintendo on the software side do often have some of the best looking games on their system. Just look at Zelda:TP. What they achieved from the GC was just silly from a technical standpoint.

And for all the decision they make, they often try to balance it with what will benefit the industry as a whole. Like the non HD route. And exhibitions. And Touch Generations. I often find they genuinely try to not step on the markets of other developers.

So in conclusion they can and are avoided by some and that's fine, but they do deserve recognition.
 
To boil this down to it's logical extreme:

Can you claim to be a gaming enthusiast and never play a Nintendo game?

The options are:
A) Yes. There are no requirements to be a gaming enthusiast.
B) Yes. There are requirements to be a gaming enthusiast, but there are no specific games/series required.
C) Yes. To be considered a gaming enthusiast, there are requirements regarding specific games/series to be played. However, Nintendo is not included in these required games/series.
D) No. To be considered a gaming enthusiast there are requirements regarding specific games/franchises to be played. Nintendo is included in these required games/series.
 
Enthusiast - A person who is highly interested in a particular activity or subject.

DUH

Ok then I'll play along... B, I guess but it's still a stupid question

edit: the only requirement being.... YOU REALLY LIKE GAMES. Are you going to deny the kid with downs who only plays roguelikes and loves the shit out of them the prestigious title of 'gaming enthusiast'?? ARE YOU
 
If by proper you mean well-rounded, then no. It would be like claiming you're a movie buff without watching any Speilberg movies.

However, as a game hobbyist I feel it's ok to indulge in a specific genre. Like if you were into making models, maybe you would go through a WWII airplane phase. The problem is that all the marketing and trolling done on behalf specific genres, such as first person shooters, is still working to keep the interest of fans despite the lack of innovation, which keeps gamers from expanding their horizons. If all you did was make B-52 models for the rest of your life, that's obsessive and not very healthy.
 
Vlodril said:
I haven't played a nintedo game since the snes. I am fine with that.
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Same here. I've played a couple of games on my nephew's Wii but I just don't find myself wanting to play those games. I still have fond memories of my SNES but I just don't have a need to go back to those franchises like I do with Mass Effect or Uncharted. Its just a personal choice. I don't think this makes me an "improper gamer".
 
HolyTaco said:
This answers the question fine, he is stating indirectly (implication) that he is a proper gamer yet doesn't play Nintendo games.
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That's not the problem--the problem is that it shouldn't be easy to be a proper gamer. If he ends his training now--if he chooses the quick and easy path--he will become an agent of casual.
 
Depends largely on how one defines "proper gamer" (I don't - that is, I simply don't define it). I own a PS3 and a DS at the moment and get equal use out of both. On average, I'd say a greater amount of games that I'd actually wish to play are released for the DS as opposed to the PS3/360 - RPG's, namely. I don't own a single Nintendo-developed game in my entire collection, oddly enough.

Can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games? Yes. Can they ignore Nintendo consoles? I don't think so.
 
Meh I don't see why it matters.

I haven't played any Nintendo games (or even touched a Nintendo console) since the N64 and I'm ok with it. I've grown out of Mario, never liked Zelda, and metroid was meh to me back when it was first released on the NES. Truth is nothing Nintendo really appeals to me, or even slightly draws me in. Now does this mean I'm not a proper gamer in the eyes of some random people online? Yeah sure probably. Do I give a shit? Nope, not even remotely.
 
Wii has a handful of games I want (Galaxies, for one), rest I could do without. I ain't buying a console for a few games.

I owned a DS and sold it after I played through the best games the platform has to offer, ergo the Phoenix Wright games.

I'm probably not a proper gamer.
 
Can a door ignore the master of unlocking?
Can the princess ignore the ingredients for cake?
Can a horrible night ignore a curse?
 
Mr. B Natural said:
How to catch up to the last 6 years of compelling Nintendo products-

1. Play Mario Galaxy
2. Play Mario Galaxy 2
And you're done.
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But NSMBWii is much better than both
combined
!
 
I've been largely Nintendo free since I finished Majora's Mask on the N64. I've been pretty fine gaming-wise so far. So to answer the OP's question, yes, you can be a "proper" gamer without playing Nintendo's first/second party games.
 
A "proper gamer," I don't really know if that exists... But, certain Nintendo games just shouldn't be missed. The New Super Mario brothers games, for instance, as just excellent.
 
I don't ignore the Nintendo games, I do want to play a good number of them, but I haven't purchased a Wii yet since I can't justify picking up a system for a handful of games.

Maybe I'll get a Wii-U and play all the Wii games I missed on that. =p
 
Prior to 2004, no. After 2004... maybe.

That's not to say Nintendo isn't making great games. But between their outdated hardware and sporadic release schedule, Nintendo is definitely the platform to skip if you have to skip somebody.
 
theBishop said:
Prior to 2004, no. After 2004... maybe.

That's not to say Nintendo isn't making great games. But between their outdated hardware and sporadic release schedule, Nintendo is definitely the platform to skip if you have to skip somebody.
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Well... I'd argue that having a PS3 and a 360 is almost the same thing, because they share the majority of their titles. I'd say it works better to have a Wii plus one of the HD consoles
or the best choice: a PC
. And that's what a great number of people did this gen. Skipping one of the HD consoles for a Wii would've given you a much wider variety of gaming.
 
theBishop said:
Prior to 2004, no. After 2004... maybe.

That's not to say Nintendo isn't making great games. But between their outdated hardware and sporadic release schedule, Nintendo is definitely the platform to skip if you have to skip somebody.
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I actually think Xbox is the one to skip. Between the minscule number of actual exclusives, and the fact that a great number of the good ones are higher res on TV, i regret buying a 360. I havent turned on my 360 except to play bullet hell shmups.

At least the PS3 has a number of exclusives i actually want to play.
 
I may not be a proper gamer, but I've mostly ignored Nintendo games since Ocarina of Time. I got a Gamecube when it went cheap and got both gamecube Zelda games, but never finished either. Didn't get the Mario game. I don't have a Wii but my parents do. I did buy RE4 for it (not a Nintendo game, but it's the only Wii game I've bought). I played a bit of Super Mario Galaxy at a friends house and wasn't that impressed (to be fair though, I only played it for a few minutes which probably wasn't giving it a fair shot).

I'm not really interested in Nintendo games anymore, and I don't think the Wii U is going to change that.
 
SykoTech said:
The most that can be said is this: If a well-experienced gamer told me that they had never played a single Mario game ever, I would give him/her a funny look.

And that's the most that anyone can say without coming off as a Nintendo fanboy.
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I completely agree with this. NES and SNES are like the bible. If you're not familiar them, there's a lot of modern culture that flies over your head.
 
If you were to look at a list of best-selling games of all time, you would see a list completely dominated by Nintendo. At the same time, if you were to look at a list of best-reviewed games of all time, Nintendo's name would show up more than any other company. Nintendo is the most commercially successful AND the most critically acclaimed developer of all time. Moreover, Nintendo has created entirely new genres and has revolutionized the entire industry on multiple occasions. They are arguably the single most important developer of all time. I don't know if I would necessarily consider them to be "improper," but anyone who goes out of their way to ignore Nintendo is basically closing themselves off to HUGE part gaming world. It seems a little strange why so many people are willing to completely disregard the company.
 
I don't think a "proper gamer" has to fulfill any sort of requirement when it comes to system(s) of choice, but people who really enjoy games owe it to themselves to play Nintendo games. They're definitely unique in what they do.

Granted, many of their games this generation have been fairly similar to their last generation counterparts with motion controls added on, but they're still different experiences that can't be had anywhere else.
 
Yes. I'm not ignoring right now, but for a long while, i've ignored Nintendo alltogether. I started coming back with the DS, and even that took a while.

Now, i'm ignoring Sony, after having a thousand problems with my PS3 and i don't miss them at all. It's easy to ignore, if you play other games, of course. It's not like there's only Nintendo out there.
 
StevieP said:
Well... I'd argue that having a PS3 and a 360 is almost the same thing, because they share the majority of their titles. I'd say it works better to have a Wii plus one of the HD consoles
or the best choice: a PC
. And that's what a great number of people did this gen. Skipping one of the HD consoles for a Wii would've given you a much wider variety of gaming.
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If all platforms got all games, I'd agree. But MS has cobbled together a respectable lineup of 1st party and exclusive 3rd party games that shouldn't be ignored. When you factor in XBLA and Live, there's at least as much differentiation between PS3/360 as there is between PS3/Wii. Unless you consider Wii missing 70% of 3rd party games a differentiator.

The "HD Twins" meme is true to a point, it was also true in every previous generation.
 
I started my gaming life with a Sega Master system...then on to Genysis(sp? been awhile!) and then the PSX, PS2, PS3.

I've 'PLAYED' the original mario game (never finished it since I didn't own it) I played the awesome NES Ice Hockey (Skinny, Middle, Fat guys), the NES Pro Wrestling (Swamp man, Star man etc), and think highly of them, but once I made the jump to the more 'hard core' games (hate that term.) of the PSX era, and got into sports games (which I hate now), basically Nintendo hasn't made a single title that appealed to me since 1990ish.

If Ninty let their titles 'mature' with the gamers, I may have stuck around, but it seems they target the youngest (and oldest, thanks to news stories about old folks playing wii) gamers out there.

its almost like they missed the fact the average gamer is now 30+, and are still attacking the NES demographics.
 
"Mature" lol. Biggest misnomer ever created in the gaming world. Most Rated M games are the direct opposite of mature.
 
Short note on the use of the term "proper gamer". It's just the way poms/commonwealth-ites talk. We say proper in front of nearly anything.
 
since the SNES era I've only played the following NINTENDO made games:

-Super Mario 64
-Pilotwings 64
-Super Mario Sunshine
-Super Smash Brothers Melee (was that the Gamecube one? If so, thats the one I played)
-Super Mario Galaxy
-LoZ: Twilight Princess


...so yeah... although not quite 'ignoring' Nintendo games, they just haven't been essential to my overall enjoyment of the medium.
 
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