Can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games?
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toastyToast
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What about if you don't like platforming games or Zelda?
WHAT THEN OP?
WHAT THEN OP?
Buddha Beam
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Fusebox said:
Randomizer
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outunderthestars said:
Hmm the differences between Bioshock and Infinite are the same as the differences between each new Zelda. New setting, new story, new art/graphics, new mechanics (Zelda has flying, Bioshock has Sky-Line Rails), similar mechanics(Zelda has new items and puzzles Bioshock has new powers and shooting). If you think the difference between Bioshock and Infinite is bigger than Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword you are very wrong.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I used to play Mario a lot when I was a kid.
Nowadays... Not as much or not at all. I can easily skip Mario. Maybe it's because the new Mario doesn't interest me anymore unless I go nostalgic and play the SNES variants?
Nowadays... Not as much or not at all. I can easily skip Mario. Maybe it's because the new Mario doesn't interest me anymore unless I go nostalgic and play the SNES variants?
rollingstart
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you have to buy nintendo hardware to play a nintendo published game
as good as mario galaxy is, it's hard to convince someone who plays dozens of great third party games every year that he needs to purchase new hardware to play a handful of games. precisely 0% of all games need to be played. it's a hobby, ffs.
as good as mario galaxy is, it's hard to convince someone who plays dozens of great third party games every year that he needs to purchase new hardware to play a handful of games. precisely 0% of all games need to be played. it's a hobby, ffs.
NullPointer
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I'm intrigued.Snuggler said:
outunderthestars
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toasty_T said:
I just want them to do something really new with zelda. hell, let me play as Zelda herself for a game. Something different and less formulaic.
XANDER CAGE
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truly101 said:
But I just beat Witcher 2 for a third time and I still own my Genesis and I play fighting games on a stick and and and I love the original X-com and I buy all my PC games on Steam!
dani_dc said:
Because I don't feel like each iteration is different enough, and I'm tired of the gameplay formula in most of their games. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if their games weren't 100% focused on gameplay and nothing else, but since they are it's a big problem to ignore. Like I'm not fond of Uncharted's gameplay but I look forward to the next one because of the story and the voice acting/animation.
This is not to say I haven't tried anything. I did help buy a Wii for my mother which ended up being used by me the most when I would borrow a game or two from friends, but by the ignore part of the topic I took that to mean not buying a system or games for yourself which I haven't for the better part of a decade.
outunderthestars
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Randomizer said:
So the new zelda isn't about link saving Zelda?
XANDER CAGE
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What if
Nintendo
PORTED THEIR GAMES TO PC
Nintendo
PORTED THEIR GAMES TO PC
pieatorium
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Same argument could be made for PC gaming or any system, not everone has the time or money for all of them.Buddha Beam said:
Syph Medwes
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Like others have mentioned, you should play games that you like; that said, I think this gen or perhaps even last gen a gamer could go without playing a Nintendo game, but if you go back to the N64 or even farther back, I think it would be impossible not to play a Nintendo game.
I've owned all 3 systems both this gen and last, and while the number of games i've purchased for my Nintendo systems has dwindled, I personally don't think I could've gone without playing such gems as the Metroid Prime series, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, or SSBM/SSBB to name a few.
I've owned all 3 systems both this gen and last, and while the number of games i've purchased for my Nintendo systems has dwindled, I personally don't think I could've gone without playing such gems as the Metroid Prime series, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, or SSBM/SSBB to name a few.
Dynamite Shikoku
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the only games nintendo fans seem to mention are mario and zelda. have they made any new grade A games in the last five years?
Dark Schala said:Not necessarily true.
If you've played The Legend of Zelda, you can't say that the rest of the Zelda games are open world like that. If you've played Zelda II, the other games are not sidescrolling and do not depend so much on RPG elements. If you've played Ocarina of Time, you can't say that all the other games (especially games before) adopt the Z-Targetting or, if you've played the 3DS version, adopt the gyro aiming system. Majora's Mask seems like a love-it-or-hate-it title because it deviated so much from the formula. Skyward Sword seems to be going in a different direction by using the Motion+ controller to make Zelda combat more strategic rather than merely hacking and slashing.
If you've played Metroid Prime, the other Metroid games are not in first-person. At the same time, Super Metroid isn't the same as Metroid Prime at all. These are two different types of games based on perspective. But the perspective shift can offer a brand new experience to the player.
If you've played Super Mario Bros, well... you and I both know that each new Mario title introduces some new quirk or mechanic (Super Mario 64's camera, for example) to keep players coming back. The level designs are often superb and well-designed.
But there is some truth here at the same time: Nintendo games are always comforting in their familiarity. In some cases, certain Nintendo games seems to have assisted in writing the blueprint for other games in the genre, or are inspirations for other games in the same genre. But the polished, well-planned work from any of Nintendo's development teams is very comforting to come back to every now and then. In other words: I know Nintendo EAD will give me a polished, well-designed product, and that's what keeps me coming back.
But on the other hand, I see your perspective and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because it's partially true.
I said "pretty much gotten a taste of what they're all like" because I'm not talking about niggling details like z-targeting or gyro-aiming, M+, or a "new quirk", and I said with "a lot of nintendo franchises" - obviously a 2D game isn't going to be the exact same gameplay as a 3D one. And I think this is obvious to people who play them (that they might still like the 3D one if they don't like a 2D one) so it's not necessary to dwell on this point.
But WW, MM, OoT, TP... there's a very strong sense of why this is a Zelda game for each of them. They have many elements in common. People didn't like MM because of the time mechanic, and if that's what you dislike, then you know the other games don't have it. If you disliked it for the Zelda formula though, well then you probably won't like the others.
Etc.
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truly101 said:
Oh well sorry I assumed you were one of "those" PC guys.
I love my consoles and comfy couch mode and Demon's Souls
SneakyStephan
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BigJiantRobut said:
genesis is the bomb!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8DpncyDY7U&feature=related
Cyborg justice, 4 player coop, fuck yeah.
He has to unless he has no job and multiple bodies. The sheer amount of gaming out there means you can't just limit yourself to good games anymore. You need to actively ignore segments and genres. Personally, I shut out most handheld gaming and Nintendo stuff. It's not that I don't believe Nintendo make great games, because they do, I just don't have time for them. I just started Alpha Protocol and the Witcher 2 AT THE SAME TIME!rpmurphy said:
Broder Salsa
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outunderthestars said:
For the longest time I thought that you controlled Zelda in the games.
east of eastside
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Mario and Zelda are past the peak of their appeal and have been declining for years. I'm surprised more people aren't commenting on that?
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SneakyStephan said:
Case of beer and Gunstar Heroes is how I rock it with bros on my Genesis. So goooood.
_Alkaline_
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There's no such thing as a proper gamer, to start off with.
And of course gamers can ignore Nintendo games. They'd still have a wide range of fantastic software to play.
That said, Nintendo at its best still puts out superior software to 99% of development houses. So you're missing out big time if you don't give them a shot.
And of course gamers can ignore Nintendo games. They'd still have a wide range of fantastic software to play.
That said, Nintendo at its best still puts out superior software to 99% of development houses. So you're missing out big time if you don't give them a shot.
Nintendork22
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Okay, everyone is freaking out about "proper gamer", but I just needed some term to basically say - "I am someone who takes pride in playing video games. I am a video game enthusiast. I play a lot of games and I know a lot about games. I have played a wide variety of critically acclaimed games. I have played games from many different publishers, developers, and systems. My opinion about gaming is backed up by the wide variety of games I have played. I have been gaming for several years. I have done the "required reading" for video games."
Can someone who doesn't play Nintendo games say the above?
I seriously did not want this to turn into a troll fest. For example, is the opinion of a 12 year old kid who has only played games on his PS3 as valid as the opinion of an adult who has played games on multiple systems for the last 20 years?
Is someone who only plays Call of Duty as informed as someone who plays RPGS, FPSes, Platformers, Puzzlers, Action games, etc.? No.
Does someone who plays games exclusively on their iPhone have as valid of an opinion about games as someone who has gamed on multiple systems for several generations? No.
Can a Nintendo fan who only plays Nintendo games make judgments about the future of online in gaming? No.
I mean, it may sound elitist, but there are many gamers out there who have never played a single Nintendo game. If they want to sound educated about gaming, I think there are some Nintendo games they need to play.
Can someone who doesn't play Nintendo games say the above?
I seriously did not want this to turn into a troll fest. For example, is the opinion of a 12 year old kid who has only played games on his PS3 as valid as the opinion of an adult who has played games on multiple systems for the last 20 years?
Is someone who only plays Call of Duty as informed as someone who plays RPGS, FPSes, Platformers, Puzzlers, Action games, etc.? No.
Does someone who plays games exclusively on their iPhone have as valid of an opinion about games as someone who has gamed on multiple systems for several generations? No.
Can a Nintendo fan who only plays Nintendo games make judgments about the future of online in gaming? No.
I mean, it may sound elitist, but there are many gamers out there who have never played a single Nintendo game. If they want to sound educated about gaming, I think there are some Nintendo games they need to play.
XANDER CAGE
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Nintendork22 said:
And guess what, it is!
_Alkaline_
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east of eastside said:
LAWL
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Seraphinianus
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Randomizer said:
you forgot one difference: Zelda has been made and remade for the past twenty years and this is only the second Bioshock game (from people who actually know how to make Bioshock and not some publisher raping its corpse.)
oh yeah, and all of your information about Bioshock is taken from the tiny snippets of the first 15 minutes of the game because that's all anyone knows about Bioshock Infinite right now.
SneakyStephan
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BigJiantRobut said:
Can you rip off your friend's arms and legs? And use the weapons attached to the arms for yourself? And beat them to death with their robot arms?
Or hop around with no legs?
Rip off their robot torso and throw it in a pit?
If not, that is a clearly inferior game.
NullPointer
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I hope you're fucking awesome at Go.
XANDER CAGE
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SneakyStephan said:
No
Shit dude, I've been missing out on Cyborg Justice. I'm going to look for a copy, thanks for the video.
Dynamite Shikoku said:
Have other developers? Developers that had successfully running franchises and expanded on top of these?
And you could say that Nintendo shakes up franchise sequels with each entry. Compare Galaxy to Sunshine, Other M to Prime 3. Even the Zelda-series is not as stagnant as people often make it out to be.
It is actually my number one reason as to why I enjoy Nintendo-games. The franchise might remain the same, but the game behind the packing always changes, to varying degress, of course.
Littlegator
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Buddha Beam said:
_Alkaline_
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Dynamite Shikoku said:
Perhaps you should consider doing some research before making silly posts that make you look silly.