Can Halo 3 Outsell Super Mario Bros. 3?
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xs_mini_neo
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Not including red ring system replacements?? I ask because PSone had insanely high sales, but mostly due to system replacement. I will never forget having to replace mine twice...nor will everyone I knew.
SMB3 can only be defeated by another game that hits the right balance in everything.
Games have only hit one or the other ever since. Unfortunately.
I doubt that. It looks too much like the lovechild of SM64 and SMSunshine (with SMB3 suits tacked on), and not SMB and SMW or SMB3, which would actually have a real chance at outselling SMB3...
DrForester
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I agree that the biggest problem is Japan adding nothgint o Halo's numbers. Seriously, there are probably more posts in the Halo 3 thread than copies of Halo that will sell in Japan.
AzureNightmare
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can it happen? yes. Will it happen? Hell No.
Square2005
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Not without selling a few million in Japan if you're speaking in terms of worldwide sales.
SMB3 sold 7.5m either in the US or NA (not sure) so it's possible; The GTAs are close to that.
SMB3 sold 7.5m either in the US or NA (not sure) so it's possible; The GTAs are close to that.
LiquidMetal14
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No. Wishful thinking. Unless most Xbox owners have nothing else left to play. Or more casuals get their hands on it.
xs_mini_neo said:
What? Unlike SMB3, where suits simply granted Mario additional abilities, the suits in Super Mario Galaxy actually have levels designed around them. You can't scale the honeycomb on the bee stage without the bee suit, for example. The only comparable suits in SMB3 would be the Frog Suit or Kuribo's Shoe, and even then they're not *required* for traversal of the level. In fact, the suits in SMG are far more analogous to Mario's caps in Super Mario 64 -- they merely retain the charm of the suits from SMB3. Designing whole levels around the *new* suits seems *hardly* "tacked on."
Besides, what exactly does a "lovechild of SM64 and Super Mario Sunshine" entail?
edwardslane
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Microsoft is only competing in 2 of the 3 major markets. So no not even close
Pai Pai Master
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AzureNightmareXE said:
No, it can't happen. It's virtually impossible for everyone who owns a 360 to buy Halo 3, and for the game itself to move another 4 million consoles or so.
I think it has a chance to break the 10,000,000 mark by the end of the 360's life cycle, but that would be enough of a challenge considering the circumstances the 360's install base faces compared to the NES.
Mariah Carey
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AzureNightmare
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I really don't think Halo 3 will ever come close to selling 18 million units
What the hell guys. If we're counting bundled games and stuff Tetris is the clear console+handheld winner at about 30 million units, and probably something like Minesweeper or Hearts would win overall because PC gaming is a pretty vast market, even if it's not always as profitable as the console one.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Who cares?
That sucks.
Whoa that Destiny's Child video is ancient. I wonder whatever happened to the other two singers?
Sharp said:
That sucks.
Whoa that Destiny's Child video is ancient. I wonder whatever happened to the other two singers?
Sharp said:
Yeah, that was surprising. Although it might have been because of this silly joke thread.
xs_mini_neo
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Tristam said:
Can those still be beaten without those suits? If not, then it's like SM64/Sunshine. SMB3 didn't do that. I'm not getting my hopes up here. I don't want to be let down.
Their lovechild forces us to collect stars and shines and other things we shouldn't have to do to play Mario. I'd like to know WHY they still insist on using star/shine collecting. I'm so tired of collect-a-thons.
Conrad Link
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lol no.
xs_mini_neo said:
Judging by the videos, no, the bee stage can't be completed without the bee suit, although TSR mentioned that you can circumvent some flying portions by wall-hopping (this game will be fantastic for sequence breakers and speedrunners). Other classic power-ups make a return and certainly won't be necessary -- the Super Mushroom, the Starman, and the Fireflower are some examples.
As for your second point: uh, what? It's the end of a level. Collecting a star is the 3D equivalent of zipping down a flag pole or crossing a finish line. What, would you prefer literally having flagpoles arbitrarily placed in three-dimensional fields? Calling it a "collect-a-thon" is disingenuous at best: a "collect-a-thon" in a video game suggests a means to an end, not an end in itself. Completing levels -- aka acquiring stars -- doesn't constitute a series of collect-a-thons; collecting red coins and blue coins can be considered "collect-a-thons," but thus far haven't been seen anywhere in Super Mario Galaxy.
Really, you're reaching so far here I'm afraid you might strain a muscle.
xs_mini_neo
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Tristam said:
I assume we will be collecting stars or shines again because the last two games abused it, with pleasure, and now I see stars in this one too.
I'd like to be wrong, though.
xs_mini_neo said:
http://www.rif.org/:
[QUOTE="Tristam]As for your second point: uh, what? It's the end of a level. Collecting a star is the 3D equivalent of zipping down a flag pole or crossing a finish line. What, would you prefer literally having flagpoles arbitrarily placed in three-dimensional fields? Calling it a "collect-a-thon" is disingenuous at best: a "collect-a-thon" in a video game suggests a means to an end, not an end in itself. Completing levels -- aka acquiring stars -- doesn't constitute a series of collect-a-thons; collecting red coins and blue coins can be considered "collect-a-thons," but thus far haven't been seen anywhere in Super Mario Galaxy.[/QUOTE]
Really, it's not even something that can be debated.
edwardslane said:
yep. Not gonna happen.
And why are people throwing handheld games in here, never see the point of comparing a platform MS dont recognise as a competitor (which is true).
Of all the home consoles, Halo 3 will be amoung the top 3 best selling games (this gen). Halo has amazing legs, it will sell until the nexy xbox is released
xs_mini_neo
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Tristam said:
But how do you know if those are the only ones??
SonicMegaDrive
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Will it?
No.
In fact, it won't even scratch it.
And that comment about Halo being more appealing to normal people than Mario is laughable.
Anyway, as stated already, Halo 2 sold 8 million copies. Mario 3 sold 18 million.
That being said, I bet Halo 3 outsells Halo 2 by quite a bit. It'll probably reach 10 million at least, and then level off shortly after that.
No.
In fact, it won't even scratch it.
And that comment about Halo being more appealing to normal people than Mario is laughable.
Anyway, as stated already, Halo 2 sold 8 million copies. Mario 3 sold 18 million.
That being said, I bet Halo 3 outsells Halo 2 by quite a bit. It'll probably reach 10 million at least, and then level off shortly after that.
DongHungLong said:
Completely agreed. I am new to this forum and all, but I thought stupid threads like these should be locked by now? You love Halo, we get it. But it is a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER for mario's sake. Now maybe if every teenager in the United States buys a copy it might have a chance.
MisterHero
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GB Tetris laughs at Bejeweled. :lolkazinova said:
No.
Seriously, I think it'll be tough to hit even 10 million for Halo 3 but we'll see I guess. Also, Nintendogs was at 14.79 million at june and is still selling in the west. I think that Nintendogs is far more likely to hit those numbers (even though it may or may not have sold a bunch through pack-ins I don't know for sure). Then of course there is New Super Mario Bros. and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl who are already above 10 million (NSMB even at 10.5 m at june) which Halo 3 need to beat first this generation (and there are 3 more DS games that has a good change of outselling Halo 3 depending on how close it comes to 10 million). And of course this doesn't include sure hits like GTA, Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart etc who will sell a ton too..
Seriously, I think it'll be tough to hit even 10 million for Halo 3 but we'll see I guess. Also, Nintendogs was at 14.79 million at june and is still selling in the west. I think that Nintendogs is far more likely to hit those numbers (even though it may or may not have sold a bunch through pack-ins I don't know for sure). Then of course there is New Super Mario Bros. and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl who are already above 10 million (NSMB even at 10.5 m at june) which Halo 3 need to beat first this generation (and there are 3 more DS games that has a good change of outselling Halo 3 depending on how close it comes to 10 million). And of course this doesn't include sure hits like GTA, Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart etc who will sell a ton too..