Probably because it looks smoother, though it is weird Alex version is maxed out.
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Can Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart on PC match - and exceed - the PS5 experience?
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Zathalus
Member
The correct textures never loads. Obviously a bug. Unless you think the PC can only handle PS3 level texture quality.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Now they are doing comparison of the crowd density knowing full well that Performance RT mode on the PS5 halves the crowd density. This is so disingenuous.
None of this is neccessary because the PS5 VRR mode runs this at native 4k 40+ fps. So any comparisons they might have wanted to do with PC couldve been done using that mode. Especially since at 60 fps the game becomes cpu bound.
None of this is neccessary because the PS5 VRR mode runs this at native 4k 40+ fps. So any comparisons they might have wanted to do with PC couldve been done using that mode. Especially since at 60 fps the game becomes cpu bound.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
You said it was because the game was PS5 at heart. I said that there's another PS5 only game on PC without these issues. That's what they call a point.
If the correct textures don't show up after a while it's clearly not a loading problem.
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Bojji
Gold Member
Data still have to be copied from HDD no matter what so unless you are loading all levels into RAM in a loading screen you will have stutters even with 64GB of RAM.
yamaci17
Member
both ways, ps5 slaughters the so called enhanced PC version. none of these pesky miniscule details would be able to equlizate how bad the port is
But it has high framerates so you can be sure everyone will actually cheer on it! like spiderman.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Their whole analysis is full of weird moments, even when the game is stuttering on the SATA SSD - "It looks ok, doesn't bother me" when in any other situaltion they would bash it to oblivion.
HeWhoWalks
Member
Indeed. Some lips shut today! Not that Insomniac needing redemption, but with the deal sealed, it makes it all the better.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Dude, chill out. It's a simple Let's Play video from a preview build. You guys also lost your fucking minds when they did that for RE4 Remake and shut up once they came out with the actual analysis a few days later. There will likely be an actual comparisons video and proper performance analysis. This one is just them playing and mostly doing unscripted stuff.
Puscifer
Member
Oh I was speaking sarcastically nothing specific to you
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
His PC is good with 64gb and it had issues using a hdd.
Huh?
To try and match the data streaming effect sacrifices might of been made to avoid longer load times etc.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Does this shock you?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah, i was surprised to see him use DLSS Quality at 4k on a freaking 4090. TBH, that would explain why they didnt choose the PS5 fidelity mode. It probably outperformed the 4090 running this game natively.
Snake29
Banned
Yeah the whole comparison isn’t about fps but the differences in quality and portals. The PS5 120hz mode would’ve been a way better comparison. Even in this performance RT mode, the PS5 is still outmatching the maxed out PC in a few areas.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's not built around PS5,pales in comparison visually and is still a different game.
Textures not loading up is exactly a loading issue.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
No, just disappoints me. I want this logged as another example of DF nonsense for the next time someone defends these guys.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Noticed a lot of pop in on the port. Funny how a launch title still holds up. There has to be some truth to the I/O messaging.
But I think that is buried for future PS5 titles now, because Sony want good PC ports in the future . I do think they will force their Dev's to not max out the I/O (basically already did that when allowing slower then first announced SDD speed for the user replaceable SDD)
But I think that is buried for future PS5 titles now, because Sony want good PC ports in the future . I do think they will force their Dev's to not max out the I/O (basically already did that when allowing slower then first announced SDD speed for the user replaceable SDD)
Zathalus
Member
I can buy that if the correct textures eventually loads, but it never does.
Man these arguments are almost word for word the same that happed in The Last Of Us PC thread. PC obviously couldn't do what the PS5 could. All those issues were patched and is now working fine. Same exact thing is going to happen here
Interfectum
Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
exact same problem as with spiderman. in spiderman that game also didnt load proper textures in time in real time cutscenes
directstorage is a hoax and a joke
Something isnt right with his setup.. here is mine.
yamaci17
Member
this usually happens with ray tracing enabled, and if you don't use ray tracing or can't, then you cannot have feature parity with PS5Something isnt right with his setup.. here is mine.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
yep. in that they can't find the correct texture. not a speed problem... just a game one.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Not familiar with page filing?
RoboFu
One of the green rats
too much vram usage on nvidia cards maybe?
yamaci17
Member
the video in question has a literal 24 gb flagship 4090
yeah I wonder how the performance stacks up against 2080 and alike. probably brutal murder. I will test this on my 3070
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Is this with all the RT stuff on?Something isnt right with his setup.. here is mine.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nice. Alex said its heavier than their Spiderman ports which IIRC had the PS5 on par with 3070. Though it was likely CPU bound whereas this is using the GPU for decompression.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Speaking of shock... S staticshock , get in here buddy. It's your duty to spread the word of "Sony's bs SSD marketing" whenever this topic comes up in a NeoGAF thread. What do you have for us today?
RoboFu
One of the green rats
nah i cant lol.. need toi wait for the patch (7900xt) .. but i will keep the save for comparision.
staticshock
Member
And when they fix the bugs just like TLOUS1 will you publicly admit you were wrong?
Ofcourse not. People love to jump to the "Its the SSD Stupid" when its just the fact that its a bad port.
And when an update fixes it in 2 months, these same ppl just erase the fact they ever made those statements.
Its quite amusing to see.
This is clearly a bad port all in all.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, that was Uncharted 4. The 2070S could perform reasonably well compared to the PS5 but had a major VRAM bottleneck. The 2080 Ti which is equal to a 3070 easily outperforms the PS5 and unlike the 3070, its 11GB of VRAM aren't a problem.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Depends on if you classify the shit HDD performance and lagging performance of top shelf PC during portal sequences a "bug"
RoboFu
One of the green rats
well at leats my pic proves there are higher res textures there . Just need to wait for the bug fixes as usual.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's their first video on this game and will likely get the most hits. These kind of lazy comparisons arent something they should be proud of.
Also, look at the title of the article. 'Can Ratchet on PC match and exceed the PS5 experience?'
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Not familiar with the PS5's I/O data streaming that reaches over 20gb/s with oodle compression?
Different game.
It was improved with patches but still has pauses to load.
The often praised from PC people Nixxes missed this?
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balls of snow
Gold Member
Cerny the madlad actually was telling the truth.
Or...they can raise the minimum specs for their PC ports?
At least until Direct Storage gets more use.
Just based off this game, looks like SSD should've been the min requirement.
TrebleShot
Member
To add to the pile the haptics on the DS connected to PC are a complete mess too 
go to the nightclub bit…magic on PS5 , what’s even going on on PC
go to the nightclub bit…magic on PS5 , what’s even going on on PC
Mr.Phoenix
Member
well.. at least they used dlss quality on the PC?
Couldn't understand why they compared with performance RT though... why didn't they use the 40hz mode on the PS5?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Has fuck-all to do with what we're talking about. Don't say buzzwords you clearly don't understand.
The discussion is about 64GB of RAM being necessary in order not to require page filing a slow-ass HDD. Do you understand any of what I said? If yes, then you won't bring up any of that nonsense you just typed.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Most people won't watch those guys bumble for 1 hour. I watched 5 minutes and stopped. Don't have that much free time. I'll watch a proper comparison video that is 30 minutes or less and I'd wager most people will also do the same. This is exactly like their RE4 Remake let's play which was boring and irrelevant.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Looks stunning on my 4090. This game is incredible whether you play it on a high-end PC or a PS5 like I originally did.
An excellent port despite some issues with textures not loading as well as the PS5 version. I'm happy I double-dipped
I'm getting up to 120fps on my 4090 with Frame generation turned OFF and everything set to max at 4K DLSS. I'm sure I can get much higher frames if I turn frame generation ON but it doesn't seem necessary with this game.
Yea, last two pics are gameplay with the HUD turned off....
An excellent port despite some issues with textures not loading as well as the PS5 version. I'm happy I double-dipped
I'm getting up to 120fps on my 4090 with Frame generation turned OFF and everything set to max at 4K DLSS. I'm sure I can get much higher frames if I turn frame generation ON but it doesn't seem necessary with this game.
Yea, last two pics are gameplay with the HUD turned off....
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
What part of John's tweet saying he used a hdd in his 64gb build did you not comprehend?
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Looks stunning on my 4090. This game is incredible whether you play it on a high-end PC or a PS5 like I originally did.
An excellent port despite some issues with textures not loading as well as the PS5 version. I'm happy I double-dipped
I'm getting up to 120fps on my 4090 with Frame generation turned OFF and everything set to max at 4K DLSS. I'm sure I can get much higher frames if I turn frame generation ON but it doesn't seem necessary with this game.
Yea, last two pics are gameplay with the HUD turned off....
thats cool and all but scale your pics! lol
Mr Moose
Member
And he was using a 4090.