rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
"Matching" PS5 settings including RT on high doesn't help with this?
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Can Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart on PC match - and exceed - the PS5 experience?
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"Matching" PS5 settings including RT on high doesn't help with this?
Crispy Gamer
Member
That was an hour of struggle listening to Alex lol even a beast set up couldn't 100% replicate the PS5 version during the portal sequences I didn't expect that it could be a bug and I'm not even gonna touch on the HDD it's unbelievable people actually thought Insomniac and Cerny was lying and this game could've launched on PS4 smh it was never about PC that was always a disingenuous argument but whatever man after a week people will go back to their same talking points 
yamaci17
Member
sadly it didn't. clearly it is some kind of weird engine behaviour with ray tracing enabled. but I'm seeing some conflicting reports above that textures are fine with ray tracing on some others. I too wonder now if it is actually a mistake on alex's end or not in the case of ratched and clank
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Point us games that still have significant problems.Almost every is an overly optimistic statement. Do you know that PS5 is backward compatible with PS4 which has a catalog of thousands of games right? Or Xbox SX which is also backward compatible with a lot of 360 and some xbox orig games right? Which can also be found very cheaply.
And do you want really to compare the number of games on PC including emulation with PS5/XBX library? Plus all these games having the best IQ/resolutions, frame rates, controllers, mods, etc, etc...
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mrcroket
Member
You can have retroarch in Xbox SX and also PS2, wii and dreamcast, emulators. Not to mention xbox backwards compatibility.
FrankWza
Member
So you have to hit your PS5 with a hammer 5 times and unplug it and if that doesn't work in PCs benefit you.... wait for patches.
See?! Told you! It works!
DuduIsDisappointed
Banned
Good port. But it goes to show how monster of a hw Ps5 is when it comes to how fast it streams HQ textures and instan level loads.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Are you seriously trying to compare the number of games available on PC to consoles?
Kakax11
Banned
I meant the old HDtvs when i mentioned the input lag response, also use a monitor with DisplayPort cable so you can avoid HDMI auto enhancements, i have a 65 C2 2022 btw
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Are you kidding me?
Alex spends good 2 minutes going... "eee, maybe it looks different? I don't know" "are my settings right, maybe I changed something"
And textures never load. He almost sounds like Elon Musk when the tesla window broken. You know, like a person selling you something but then there is a big scratch on it "oh is there a scratch? oh yeah maybe it... no problem it will buff out"
I mean YEAH he acknowledges it finally but he sounds a bit apologetic maybe?
And that's low res compared to RT performance mode on ps5. I am sure 4k mode looks even better on ps5.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
There are no HDMI auto enhancements !!!I meant the old HDtvs when i mentioned the input lag response, also use a monitor with DisplayPort cable so you can avoid HDMI auto enhancements, i have a 65 C2 2022 btw
HDMI 2.1 is awesome and maybe even better than DP recently!
The only problem with ps5 on lg c1/c2 is the 422 color range due to lower 40gbps bandwidth. But I tested it a lot and I cannot spot the difference.
C2 is so awesome man, good for you
I mean, it would not make sense that a better spec would run the game lower. That's why his first reaction is exactly that.Are you kidding me?
Alex spends good 2 minutes going... "eee, maybe it looks different? I don't know" "are my settings right, maybe I changed something"
And textures never load. He almost sounds like Elon Musk when the tesla window broken. You know, like a person selling you something but then there is a big scratch on it "oh is there a scratch? oh yeah maybe it... no problem it will buff out"
I mean YEAH he acknowledges it finally but he sounds a bit apologetic maybe?
And that's low res compared to RT performance mode on ps5. I am sure 4k mode looks even better on ps5.
So the issue is with the engine. Wait for Nixxes to fix it and move on.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
that's a fair point. However it's much harder to get it working on Xbox and it's not guaranteed. not to mention not all emulators are available on Retroarch, like Yuzu. and Ryujinx.
PLus you'd need to pay 20 for a dev account to get one, on PC it's entirely free.
Also, on Xbox you'd have to emulate older games that already have a PC port. Re-Volt for example has a PC version Via RVGL that cannot be played on xbox because there is no existing port. Doesn't sound like a big deal until you realize that RVGL has more current online play, modding capabilities, tournaments, etc. Or Mario 64, which you'd have to play via a browser/N64 emulator on Xbox meanwhile there's a native PC version available, with cheats, mods, graphical enhancements, and achievements. There's a LOT of situations like this.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
this has been debunked through multiple sources as not being a issue for anyone else like it was for him. Some have seen texture issues here and there, but not repeating like Alex did.Are you kidding me?
Alex spends good 2 minutes going... "eee, maybe it looks different? I don't know" "are my settings right, maybe I changed something"
And textures never load. He almost sounds like Elon Musk when the tesla window broken. You know, like a person selling you something but then there is a big scratch on it "oh is there a scratch? oh yeah maybe it... no problem it will buff out"
I mean YEAH he acknowledges it finally but he sounds a bit apologetic maybe?
And that's low res compared to RT performance mode on ps5. I am sure 4k mode looks even better on ps5.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I am 100% sure they will patch it on. of course.
Moving forward - the shadows on the blizar plane look awful on pc! Just because rt can be used, doesn't men it always should be.
+af looks better on ps5.
The black moving shadows are a big reason this level looks awesome. On pc the shadows are to diffused and not moving. Probably due to rt < artistry
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
yamaci17
Member
same problem with hbao, it will look worse than native ssao most of the time (was the case with spiderman. they tweaked and patched it thrice. it still ends up looking worse than native ssao here and there. so effort was pointless. it is clear that consoles games are prepared with one pipeline of graphics in mind. I usually don't like your mindset of "don't put this or that setting if it is useless!1" but this is one case I'd be on the same level with you. if you are not going to test a graphical option's outcomes, do not put it there. last of us part 1 also had a similar issue where some light reflection would poof away with a certain ultra setting. as a matter of fact, rdr2 is also full of such options
DuduIsDisappointed
Banned
That was an hour of struggle listening to Alex lol even a beast set up couldn't 100% replicate the PS5 version during the portal sequences I didn't expect that it could be a bug and I'm not even gonna touch on the HDD it's unbelievable people actually thought Insomniac and Cerny was lying and this game could've launched on PS4 smh it was never about PC that was always a disingenuous argument but whatever man after a week people will go back to their same talking points
Very good post!!!
squidilix
Member
darrylgorn
Member
So it runs on an HDD on PC.
Cool.
Cool.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
A few pics j ust because... also i didnt even realize there were a few options that go to ultra that are not on a preset..
That last shot
//DEVIL//
Member
Who does this ????
Which one of you mfers zoom in a fucking NPC alien eye just to see if there is a proper green plant casting from his eye????? ?
Fuck man! I have a 7800X3d with 4090 and I Can't tell the difference between fuckall unless it's like super obvious like antialiasing shit.
Get a life god damn..
Which one of you mfers zoom in a fucking NPC alien eye just to see if there is a proper green plant casting from his eye????? ?
Fuck man! I have a 7800X3d with 4090 and I Can't tell the difference between fuckall unless it's like super obvious like antialiasing shit.
Get a life god damn..
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Right, have to give the veredict. I'll wait a few more patches and tests but so far SSD SATA looks like the winner option.
How boring.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Quality stuff there, chief!A few pics j ust because... also i didnt even realize there were a few options that go to ultra that are not on a preset..
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Hogwarts on ultra settings completely fucked up the reflections. You had to switch to High to get reflections back.
Of course, since ultra settings also controlled particle effects and other visual settings, it meant you were downgrading your game just to get reflections back.
I think Nixxes needs to calm down. This is what 3 ports in a span of a year? either reduce the scope of these ports or take your time. Im guessing Sony wants them to move on to Spiderman 2 asap and forced them to rush this out. It took them a year to port Spiderman after the acquisition, and only 3 months to do Miles. Im guessing Sony wants Spiderman 2 out on PC asap instead of their typical 1-2 year gap. Im guessing a march release like TLOU Part 1.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
And here we have a reaction from an actual gamer who is too busy enjoying himself to care about PS5 PC wars on forums.
That being said... the low res textures in gameplay CAN be very noticeable at times.
squidilix
Member
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darrylgorn
Member
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I looked at my shots from initial ps5 playthrough. AND I DO JUST THAT
btw. There is a unlockable which allows you to change nuts and bolts pickups into energy drinks. Fucking best unlockable EVER
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Unfortunately that's classic PCMR behavior from Battaglia, not much else to say.Are you kidding me?
Alex spends good 2 minutes going... "eee, maybe it looks different? I don't know" "are my settings right, maybe I changed something"
And textures never load. He almost sounds like Elon Musk when the tesla window broken. You know, like a person selling you something but then there is a big scratch on it "oh is there a scratch? oh yeah maybe it... no problem it will buff out"
I mean YEAH he acknowledges it finally but he sounds a bit apologetic maybe?
And that's low res compared to RT performance mode on ps5. I am sure 4k mode looks even better on ps5.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Mr Moose
Member
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm honestly most impressed by how well the PS5 Performance RT mode (which is not the best looking mode on PS5) holds up next to the PC version maxed out on many times more expensive hardware. The few things that do look slightly better on PC are things you don't really notice during normal gameplay (and then there's the stuff that actually looks worse in that version). Even the image quality on PS5 (which in this mode I think is 1440p upsamled to 4K using Insomniac's own method) looks very comparable to 4K with DLSS Quality.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
If by running you mean the game being a stutter fest, sure. Enjoy Rift Apart on a HDD.
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darrylgorn
Member
If by running you mean the game being a stutter fest, sure. Enjoy Rift Apart on a HDD.
I have an SSD, I just think it's pretty cool that it even runs on an HDD at all!
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
You know some kid out there is playing this on a rig like Rich's. When you are young and broke, you make do.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Not the case here as rofif's opinion doesn't count
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Honestly not even that bad of an idea. RAM should be a storage device, now!!
Zathalus
Member
Of course none of that actually happens in the video itself. Alex immediately points out the texture isn't loading. But hey, facts never stopped anyone.Unfortunately that's classic PCMR behavior from Battaglia, not much else to say.
squidilix
Member
Game files can litteraly be in the RAM.
But that's a stupid comparison... I mean... you have enough money to buy RTX 4090 / i9 / 64 GB, but playing on HDD?
Comparison is more fair with "budget setup", like 1660Ti / i3 / 8GB RAM
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
They put just 11GB in System ram and 9GB in VRAM when you get to Blizar Prime and switch levels by striking the crystal. The system ram and vram usage remains identical through out. So the entire levels are already in the 9GB of vram. Just like I had speculated all this time. The SSD seems to be taxed during the big portal setpieces which is why they themselves had said that those portals planet hopping sequences will be limited to setpieces.
Physiognomonics
Member
There is such a thing called compressed assets.
