You mean 2014.
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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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You mean 2014.
User 479360
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I'm surprised that we don't already have this.
I'd love to vote for the Green Party but I won't because I know that it's a bad vote. Unless you live in a Green riding, you shouldn't vote for them either. It won't help anyone except for the CPC (depending on your riding). The Green Party won't even get money from your vote. It sucks but this is how FPTP works.
No, the disabled are usually given less than poverty level income. Like $1075/month.
I'm not sure how it is in other provinces, but in Alberta that "Assured Income for the Severely Handicapped" (AISH) not only provides a pretty meagre income (especially if you live in Edmonton or Calgary), it also severely restricts your ability to earn any income aside from AISH without losing it.
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In Ontario, I believe you can earn $200/month without it affecting your disability pay. You can also only have $5000 in savings. People think it's unfair, because it keeps the poor poor, and a lot of people move savings in order to qualify I've heard.
gutter_trash
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The voting booths at my school actually closed yesterday and I don't think they will reopen. I guess I'll have to go to some elementary school near my house. What is the thinking in not having voting booths at a university during the weeks leading up to the election? I think I understand why voter turnout is so low.
This is absurd. The Greens shouldn't be the only party to have this in their platform.
This is absurd. The Greens shouldn't be the only party to have this in their platform.
Stumpokapow
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It's a general class of problems that benefit systems typically have 1:1 clawbacks (i.e. for every extra $1 you make, you get $1 less), which has the unfortunate side effect that people won't want to put in marginal effort to get no result, so the only people who have an incentive to wean off a social program are those who can go from poor to rich overnight.
So the irony is that when conservatives criticize benefit programs for being so permissive they discourage people from going out and working, they're exactly wrong--it's because benefit programs are insufficiently permissive that people are put into a no-win situation when they try to go out and work. womp womp.
So the irony is that when conservatives criticize benefit programs for being so permissive they discourage people from going out and working, they're exactly wrong--it's because benefit programs are insufficiently permissive that people are put into a no-win situation when they try to go out and work. womp womp.
User 479360
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Yeah. People hide savings as a security blanket, because it can also be denied or cancelled and it's not much to live on to begin with.
TheRealTalker
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lol at the fact that tax payer's money will be used to band aid dairy farmers damages received by the TPP
I was perusing the Liberal candidate lists along with the lists of the ridings they seem likely to win (based on the various projections, past history, etc.), and Trudeau's pledge of gender parity in Cabinet looks like it would actually be a lot easier to at least come close to than I thought (assuming a Cabinet of around 30 or so, which has been the norm of late).
Though it's highly concentrated gender diversity -- basically all of the Liberal women cabinet ministers would likely have to come from just four provinces (Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec, and Newfoundland); the other six provinces are either not likely to elect any Liberal women (Prince Edward Island, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta) or may elect one but the minister from that province will still be male, just based on the status of the MPs there (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick).
I'll be voting in the advance poll tomorrow.
Though it's highly concentrated gender diversity -- basically all of the Liberal women cabinet ministers would likely have to come from just four provinces (Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec, and Newfoundland); the other six provinces are either not likely to elect any Liberal women (Prince Edward Island, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta) or may elect one but the minister from that province will still be male, just based on the status of the MPs there (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick).
I'll be voting in the advance poll tomorrow.
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matthewwhatever
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Important information for anyone going to vote!
Harper just making it as difficult as possible this election to vote. Lots of bad changes.
I've had to straighten a few people out of facebook that said they were waiting for their Voter card to vote, or that they accidentally left it at home. Get the message out everyone, all you need is a driver's license.
yeahhhh, that's illegal... (I'm sure you're aware)
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-2.01/page-50.html#h-66
UberTag
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I can envision a lot of people having arguments on Election Day.
"Here's my Voter Card and my Photo ID, please let me vote."
"Sorry, sir. You don't have proof of address."
"What do you mean? I have proof of address right here. This voter card was mailed to me. How else am I supposed to have received this? Did it teleport into my hands? Now you've seen my passport so let me vote. I voted the exact same way 5 years ago."
"I'm sorry, sir. The rules have changed. Without proof of address I have to deny you your democratic right to vote in this election."
"But I have my ID. My voter card. What do you mean I can't vote?"
"Why don't you have a driver's license, sir?"
"I don't drive. I live in Toronto. This city has excellent public transit. I don't have any of monthly statements mailed to me. I get them sent electronically because that's good for the environment and a waste of paper. I have no idea why you're doing this. I'm not leaving until you let me vote."
"I'm sorry, sir."
"What if I go online and print out a bank statement and bring it here with my address on it? Will that work?"
"I'm sorry, sir. It wasn't mailed to you. How do we know you just didn't change your address to this electoral riding so you could vote in it?"
That would have been me if not for the fact my credit card statement still gets mailed to me.
Hopefully people posting pictures of themselves voting on Facebook will encourage more people to go out and vote.
I just came back from voting and saw someone with their phone out taking a picture. It wasn't a ballot selfie though.
Hopefully people posting pictures of themselves voting on Facebook will encourage more people to go out and vote.
Yep. It's illegal.
So that's how we get the youngins to vote, through the power of selfie.
I heard on the radio that you can show them a bill on your smartphone but yeah, none of these rules make any sense.
While the changes are pretty hokey... seriously you don't have ID with your address? How does every person NOT have this? Does every province not have ID cards (basically driver's licenses without the license)
Funny you should post this, the people in front of me in line didn't have the required ID to vote
I voted today....
I worked the 2011 election and yes, it's a serious issue. I'd say we turned away about 2 in 10 that didn't have the correct ID / proof of address
I don't have any new ID since I changed addresses. I do, however, have a personal cheque with my current address so it's all good.
Do we know how this holds with everyone else in Québec, not just the Francophones?
PumpkinSpice
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Latest projections have it in play for Liberal and NDP. I don't think Conservatives are even remotely viable there so you shouldn't worry about vote splitting.
Geez, it's gonna be by the nose.
aw shiet. Not sure who to vote for now as I'm digging the Liberal infrastructure plan over the NDP balanced budget.
They got a whole criteria list for that on the Elections Canada website.
Passport is fine, not sure about mail. No health card? Or credit/debit, student card? They have plenty of options listed in there.
E: oh, something with address. Bank statement? You can show the invoice from your phone, even. They aren't fussy these days, lol.
Thank you!
I mean, I have a health card, credit, debit, SIN, student card, but none have my address haha.
But I can do passport, student card and an e-invoice. Should be enough!
What riding, out of curiosity?
308.com is projecting a 75% chance of it going Liberal, at present. Over on the Election Prediction Project they have it listed as Too Close To Call.
Scarborough Southwest. I find it interesting that in my riding, the majority voted for Rob Ford (who I didn't vote for by the way) in last years Toronto municipal elections. Now there's a majority supporting former Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair for the federal elections.
BigJonsson
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The Toronto Star must read Gaf
gutter_trash
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Jesus Christ, a passport is supposed to be the holiest of holly proof of ID.
But not good enough, need to prove the address?
Er, well, voting is a location-sensitive thing. That said, it's ridiculous that something from the CRA or your bank counts but not something from Elections Canada (your registration card).
gutter_trash
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in the past, I always used the registration card and driver's license. that was it
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/1...per-campaign_n_8271956.html?utm_hp_ref=canada
Elizabeth May on Harper's tactics (video)
On a policy level, the lowest point of Paul Martin's time in office for me was the clear signals he was sending early on that he was going to shred the Clarity Act as part of a bid to get as many nationalist votes as possible -- and in addition to bringing Jean Lapierre back in (who left as soon as they were out of government and the expense accounts weren't available anymore) and trying to bayonet Stephane Dion in his own riding. One of the main reasons Dion stuck around after he was turfed from cabinet was that he wanted to be in the House of Commons to defend the Clarity Act if and when Martin moved to repeal it. Of course, after the scandals hit and the dreams of a record-setting majority went up in smoke, Martin was suddenly an ardent defender of the Act and Dion was brought back into the campaign and into cabinet.
Latest nanos numbers look worrying for the conservatives(especially in Ontario and Atlantic Canada) while the ndp has seemed to stay steady with a decent increase in poll numbers in quebec. Support for the green has increased and it's mostly because their support in BC has increased to 14.9% according to the latest nanos poll.Also there is a 6 point gap between the liberals and conservatives in this latest nanos poll. I wonder if this is a start of a trend?
Link to the latest nanos poll
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/20151009 Ballot TrackingE.pdf
Link to the latest nanos poll
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/20151009 Ballot TrackingE.pdf
So apparently, Lynton Crosby is not in control of the CPC's campaign and probably has very little to do with the direction Harper took.
This is a good thing because otherwise we were letting the Conservatives off the hook for running this bigoted campaign on their own.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/australian-political-strategist-isnt-the-conservatives-sinister-mastermind/article26764940/?service=mobile
This is a good thing because otherwise we were letting the Conservatives off the hook for running this bigoted campaign on their own.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/australian-political-strategist-isnt-the-conservatives-sinister-mastermind/article26764940/?service=mobile
matthewwhatever
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Here it is, in nice picture form:
The Conservative decrease seems to be based on Quebec (which I buy) and Ontario (which I'm less certain of).
I'd be a lot less optimistic about the NDP -- Nanos hasn't had then above 25 in awhile, and he now seems to have them polling highest. Here's Ekos' "dailies" (which don't seem to be actually coming out daily, but whatever) from yesterday:
He still has the Greens way too high, I think. His breakdowns also seem a little off:
The Liberals probably aren't second in Saskatchewan, though I believe the Conservatives have that kind of lead there. I also don't believe the Conservatives are doing so well among women; they never have, so why would they be starting to now? I doubt that their new promise to extend mat leave to 18 months is secretly catching fire for them.
That one is going to be close. Based on the garbage Hollett has been throwing at her, I hope Freeland beats her, but it's going to be a really tight race.
From a subscriber-only Globe and Mail article about the campaign, about Mulcair and the NDP campaign:
It's a shame we don't get massive, Making of the President-style books about our campaigns, because I think this one would be absolutely fascinating to read.
catpurrcat
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Rob was big on infrastructure (roads, sewers, subways) and so is Lib so it makes sense.
gutter_trash
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to many, a Mayor is more administrative than political and many people just want lower their property taxes, less anti-car policies and better adequate transit.
The whole Left vs Right in Mayoral campaigns don't have the same significance as a say Premier or Prime Minister
I'm a Liberal and I would vote for a Rob Ford type for mayor if I had the chance, too many car hating activists in municipal politics makes people veer towards Rob Ford types.
the biggest problem from car hating activists is that they offer NO solutions for better public transit. When someone says "MORE BUSES"", people facepalm and say "but those buses use the same roads as cars and will also get stuck in traffic with the cars""
The whole Left vs Right in Mayoral campaigns don't have the same significance as a say Premier or Prime Minister
I'm a Liberal and I would vote for a Rob Ford type for mayor if I had the chance, too many car hating activists in municipal politics makes people veer towards Rob Ford types.
the biggest problem from car hating activists is that they offer NO solutions for better public transit. When someone says "MORE BUSES"", people facepalm and say "but those buses use the same roads as cars and will also get stuck in traffic with the cars""
FrankCaron
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My wife and I are done. ABC. Downtown Toronto Spadina-Fort York.
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