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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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Just got back from voting. Talked with the people running the advance poll while I was there and it sounds like I picked the right day. They were swamped on Friday and Saturday. Had lineups out the door. They had a small lineup today when they first opened, but there was nothing when I pulled up at 2pm.
gutter_trash
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news reporting that first day of early voting was up 90% from 2011's first day of early voting
higher voter turn out means bad news for Harper
higher voter turn out means bad news for Harper
Not necessarily. If the only people out for early voting are in his demo
Yep. Early voting has, I believe, actually been up in basically every election I've paid attention to in the last five years and it doesn't seem at all predictive of outcome. EC is pushing it harder, the parties are all pushing it harder, and there just seems to be a growing awareness of its existence among all demographics.
Also advance poll votes have really rarely swung a seat. You can usually tell which polls are advance on the results page by the fact that they're counted last and have a larger number of votes. Still they tend to be in line with the rest of the results.
CitizenVectron
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Voted at poll 608 in Regina. Only one booth, but dozens of people lined up. Took 3 minutes per voter since the new law says you can't check the next person's info until the last has returned their ballot. Lots of angry people, and some left. Took me 40 minutes to vote, I was 15th in line.
Why? Care to explain?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Presumably referring to coverage over the last few days that the NDP, having settled into third, are now trying to warm up relations with the Liberals. Can't personally tell if that's a media narrative or reflective of anything substantive.
I would really like to see Canada's social norm against the legitimacy of coalition government change, regardless.
I voted on Friday. I was one of the first people in line and actually arrived 10 minutes before the polls opened. It took me 5 minutes once the polls opened to get registered and vote, since I was the first person at my particular station, and the volunteers were trying to get organized.
Once I was finished, I turned to walk out and there was a growing lineup.
I posted this in the Toronto thread, but it's certainly relevant here:
I was in Scarborough yesterday, and a group of volunteers for a Conservative MP were handing out flyers, telling people to vote ("be a part of the community" is what they said to people).
Anytime someone says that they've already voted, one specific volunteer would ask who they voted for. This guy eventually reached me and I told him I already voted, and he asked me who I voted for. I declined to tell him since it seemed inappropriate for someone working for a specific party to be asking this information. Didn't seem to faze him, as he kept asking people afterwards.
Not sure if that breaks any rules, but it just seemed really inappropriate to me.
Once I was finished, I turned to walk out and there was a growing lineup.
I posted this in the Toronto thread, but it's certainly relevant here:
I was in Scarborough yesterday, and a group of volunteers for a Conservative MP were handing out flyers, telling people to vote ("be a part of the community" is what they said to people).
Anytime someone says that they've already voted, one specific volunteer would ask who they voted for. This guy eventually reached me and I told him I already voted, and he asked me who I voted for. I declined to tell him since it seemed inappropriate for someone working for a specific party to be asking this information. Didn't seem to faze him, as he kept asking people afterwards.
Not sure if that breaks any rules, but it just seemed really inappropriate to me.
Voted. Liberal. Looking at past results they won my riding even during the liberal collapse and NDP surge. NDP still came third here during that surge, so they'd have no chance now for sure. Mulcair's team blew the election for the NDP, so I was leaning Liberal anyway.
People's revulsion to coalition government is stupid. You'd think people would want a nice government where the parties work together.
People's revulsion to coalition government is stupid. You'd think people would want a nice government where the parties work together.
Onion_Relish
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Handing out pamphlets in front of the voting centre is pretty scummy bullshit. Asking people who they voted for is just exit polling and is extremely common
Zombie James
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Davenport. Ended up voting Liberal. I was pretty much a solid NPD vote for most of the campaign, eapecially after C-51, but with them slipping this is for the greater good.
I should clarify that I don't live in that particular riding and I was visiting the area. There wasn't a voting station nearby (as far as I know), and I voted the previous day.
They decided to canvas that particular area I was in.
They need the confidence of the house, and Trudeau and Mulcair have both said they will not support another Harper government.
We elect a parliament, not a government. The parliament determines who will govern. In many cases a minority government can make concessions to gain the confidence of the house, but if the Liberals and NDP refuse to compromise with Harper, the Conservatives cannot govern. The only reason this didn't happen in 2008 is that the Liberals backed out at the last minute.
As I said though, I'm curious what the Liberals would do if Harper stepped down and they softened up on some of their stances. I personally hope they stay firm, but we'll see.
Liberals may win outright anyway, in which case the NDP would probably allow them to govern with some compromise.
Again, you're generalizing. You take a group of people and apply this to everyone.
And you think that kind of thing is unique to that region? Please...
gutter_trash
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If Mulcair can throw the Sherbrooke declaration into the recycling big, the Liberals would be more than happen to ask the NDP to form a coalition
but,
with Liberals, Canadian Unity is non-negotiable! Liberals can compromise on other issues but this one is not one of them. The Liberals are the flag bearers of Canadian Unity.
matthewwhatever
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Has Harper had any of these moments in any campaign btw?
Harper hasn't had a rally or an even where there was a single non-vetted person there, so...no.
That'll be an interesting riding to watch. Cash has been a relatively high-profile MP, so he has that working for him, plus his margin in 2011 was huge, but at the same time, that was such a hardcore Liberal riding for so long (in part because of the fact their longtime MP, Charles Caccia, was one of the best MPs this country has ever had, until he got shoved aside by Paul Martin's people). I'm really curious how that one will turn out.
Went and voted in Ottawa West-Nepean. A bit of a line, but I was in and out in about 10 minutes.
Morrigan Stark
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Probably. Still, I'd be OK with that. #AnyoneButHarper
Hahahaha
DreamMachine
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-harper-duffy-questions-1.3194754
yes he has, this was an angry supporter telling a journalist she's a piece of shit.
I don't know if anyone posted the latest nanos poll here, but the ndp is back to 25.0% in terms of national support in this poll while the liberals still have their six point lead over the conservatives. The greens are also rising in this poll, while the conservatives have slightly recovered. The ndp is also slowly starting to gain back support in Quebec.The bloc and conservatives are in decline in Quebec also.
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/20151010 Ballot TrackingE.pdf
Ekos has also released a new poll with the conservatives in the lead, but it's within the MOE.
http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2015/10/tie-continues/
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/20151010 Ballot TrackingE.pdf
Ekos has also released a new poll with the conservatives in the lead, but it's within the MOE.
http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2015/10/tie-continues/
You Are Viewtiful
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Voted Liberal today in my riding of Richmond Hill. There were about 10 people ahead of me in line, took about 15 minutes to vote.
The dude who checks the IDs smiled and asked me if it was my first time voting. He seemed to be in a nice mood, I'm guessing a lot of younger people have been voting LOL. There were a few people my age (20-25) in line so that's good news
The dude who checks the IDs smiled and asked me if it was my first time voting. He seemed to be in a nice mood, I'm guessing a lot of younger people have been voting LOL. There were a few people my age (20-25) in line so that's good news
Simple information like this is hard to find eh? :/
Seen some stuff floating around on FB, but not from a trusted news agency.
You Are Viewtiful
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You mean like vote compass?
votecompass.cbc.ca
After you answer all the questions, it compares your answers to the party platforms. It even cites its sources with the relevant newspaper articles/platform papers.
I recalled having something like that available on the CBC website in the last election, but I cannot find it this time. I don't want to go to the party website because it's not going to be unbiased. I want cold unbiased facts and numbers from party platforms.
Hey awesome ! Thanks I hope this works
I'm trying to find such website for a friend who is demanding super unbiased source on each party platforms. Hopefully this works.gutter_trash
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for some reason i find that CTV News has been doing a better job than CBC lately.
matthewwhatever
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Dat funding cut~
firehawk12
Subete no aware
NIQAB NIQAB NIQAB NIQAB NIQAB NIQAB NIQAB
You Are Viewtiful
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Are they going to tip over the pregnant ones or beat each other up for the full effect?
Low sample size probably. If the national sample is 1200, I'd take a guess and say they polled about 150 people from BC. The margin of error is like 8 per cent, 19 times out of 20.
gutter_trash
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my nice old neighbor was talking to me about the niqab.
A real nice old man but I was disappointed that the focus on this election was on the constant media focus on this stupid issue. He will probably vote Bloc.
I told him that I am voting for the Liberals, he gave me a funny look
Nanos for some odd reason shows the greens at double digits in Atlantic Canada.
gutter_trash
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young voters who hate establishment parties. They will probably not even go vote anyway
lol
LMAO!!!!!!! This is perfect!
Hah, you should've seen my family when the NDP won in Alberta
I would've loved to see that.
Anyway, I was able to vote yesterday, and it had gone smoothly. I just hope that things will change for the better.
matthewwhatever
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Woah, I hadn't looked at the breakdowns. That's crazy. A lot of people who probably won't vote, I guess, or some weird over-sampling going on, but yeah...it would be shocking if they even got 10% in a single riding, let alone for the whole region.
You Are Viewtiful
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#dead this is seriously amazing.
Wow! This is useful. I didn't know that the NDP were that weak on Aboriginal issues compared to the Liberals, especially with regards to the implementation of the recommendations described in the Truth and Reconciliation Commission report.
NDP said:
NDP's list is pretty shit, now that I looked at it again and the eight year stuff is just nonsense since I'm pretty sure another government can just end it.Liberals said:
Stop looking at individual daily poll's regional breakdowns. They're useless. You should really only look at aggregates, because that's the only way you get anywhere close to enough data to overcome the high margins of error.
Morrigan Stark
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lollol
yeah, i guess you're right.
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