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[Boogie]

I don't think the conservatives will be as relevant as they use to be in the last decade or so. They are just to toxic right now and people will slowly reject them in the next few elections.I could see the NDP becoming the second party again or forming government again eventually.

Wishful thinking.

Too toxic? Even in spite of all the shit they have pulled, if they do lose on Monday, they'll still likely score around 100 seats. They will have to do a tiny bit of soul searching, but not being "relevant", or being too "toxic" to find electoral success after Monday? No. Don't mistake what you want to happen for what is likely to happen.

 

[MMarston]

WAIT A MINUTE

I thought Trudeau didn't drink coffee.

WHICH IS IT? COFFEE OR NO COFFEE TRUDEAU?

CLASSIC LIBERAL LIES AND FLIP FLOPS.

He reconfirmed this with CTV 2 weeks ago so I'm assuming he just got hot choco at Starbucks or sth...

 

[Fuzzy]

WAIT A MINUTE

I thought Trudeau didn't drink coffee.

WHICH IS IT? COFFEE OR NO COFFEE TRUDEAU?

CLASSIC LIBERAL LIES AND FLIP FLOPS.

Maybe it was tea or hot chocolate!

 

[jstripes]

You're not alone in wondering if the Conservatives will be an aimless ship without Harper.



Jason Kenny seems like the natural front runner. Charest seems like an good candidate, but I don't know enough about Quebec politics to know if he'd be viable there. Certainly one imagines a Quebecer could have some trouble in Alberta.

If we got a PR system then we'd likely see a super right wing federal Wildrose style party from the west and a right of centre PC style party centred around Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada.

The thing with conservatives is there's a whole variety of them.

You have the Stephen Harper type. The Brian Mulroney type. The Joe Clark type. The Jean Charest type. The Mike Harris type. The Tim Hudak type. The Ralph Klein type.

Really, there needs to be at least two different conservative parties, but they seem to understand that they need to be unified to receive an electorally significant bloc of votes under our current system. Even if they deeply resent each other.

 

[mo60]

Wishful thinking.

Too toxic? Even in spite of all the shit they have pulled, if they do lose on Monday, they'll still likely score around 100 seats. They will have to do a tiny bit of soul searching, but not being "relevant", or being too "toxic" to find electoral success after Monday? No. Don't mistake what you want to happen for what is likely to happen.

By too toxic I mean the stuff they are doing in this election and the stuff they did while in government is probably going to haunt them for the next decade or so and will hurt them also. Also,every single time a governing party loses power in Canada in the last three decades or so it takes like a decade to come back and until they figure out how to come back the amount of seats they get in every election either declines, they slowly come back(gain seats in the next election and following elections until they regain power) or they become irrelevant like what happened to the PC's after the 1993 election. Any of the above options can happen to the conservatives in the next decade or so.

 

[TheStruggler]

That's really cool! Lucky! I'd love to have a personal chat with any leader. Even Harper.

I know the liberal leader of manitoba and through that made some connections now anytime trudeau is in winnipeg we hang out

 

[jstripes]

By too toxic I mean the stuff they are doing in this election and the stuff they did while in government is probably going to haunt them for the next decade or so and will hurt them also. Also,every single time a governing party loses power in Canada in the last three decades or so it takes like a decade to come back and until they figure out how to come back the amount of seats they get in every election either declines, they slowly come back(gain seats in the next election and following elections until they regain power) or they become irrelevant like what happened to the PC's after the 1993 election. Any of the above options can happen to the conservatives in the next decade or so.

Which would be compounded by the Liberals governing well. If that happens, there won't be a desire for change, which is what's driving this election.

 

[Tiktaalik]

By too toxic I mean the stuff they are doing in this election and the stuff they did while in government is probably going to haunt them for the next decade or so and will hurt them also. Also,every single time a governing party loses power in Canada in the last three decades or so it takes like a decade to come back and until they figure out how to come back the amount of seats they get in every election either declines, they slowly come back(gain seats in the next election and following elections until they regain power) or they become irrelevant like what happened to the PC's after the 1993 election. Any of the above options can happen to the conservatives in the next decade or so.

There was that one poll showing an insane drop in minority Canadian support due to the Conservatives' anti-muslim rhetoric. If that one poll is indicative of anything that appears on election day then it could be that all of the Conservatives' work with new Canadian communities has been undone, and the party will be shut out of certain areas with lots of new Canadians such as Brampton, ON and Richmond, BC for years.

 

[TheStruggler]

Maybe it was tea or hot chocolate!

tea lol

 

[matthewwhatever]

Trudeau was in Winnipeg few hours ago, grabbed a starbucks with him and caught up on some stuff. He is exhausted and lost his voice and is literally running on fumes, he is very excited yet nervous. He talked after at St James Civic Center was good time.

He's doing something like nine cities across Canada this weekend, starting out east and going out to BC, before presumably finishing up in Montreal. I feel exhausted just thinking about doing that.

Wishful thinking.

Too toxic? Even in spite of all the shit they have pulled, if they do lose on Monday, they'll still likely score around 100 seats. They will have to do a tiny bit of soul searching, but not being "relevant", or being too "toxic" to find electoral success after Monday? No. Don't mistake what you want to happen for what is likely to happen.

Yeah...their floor right now is about 30%, so it's not like they're facing the prospect of electoral ruin right now. They may stumble a bit post-Harper (whether that comes next week, next year or whenever), but I wouldn't bet on their demise.

 

[BigJonsson]

Get Trudeau to post on GAF!

 

[TheStruggler]

He's doing something like nine cities across Canada this weekend, starting out east and going out to BC, before presumably finishing up in Montreal. I feel exhausted just thinking about doing that.



Yeah...their floor right now is about 30%, so it's not like they're facing the prospect of electoral ruin right now. They may stumble a bit post-Harper (whether that comes next week, next year or whenever), but I wouldn't bet on their demise.

when i saw him today he was fucking dead, he said he cant wait to get some sleep, no idea how he did his speech, even talking with him he barely had a voice. He was worried he wouldnt be able to finish his speech tonight but they turned up the microphone so he didnt have to shout as much.

 

[mo60]

He's doing something like nine cities across Canada this weekend, starting out east and going out to BC, before presumably finishing up in Montreal. I feel exhausted just thinking about doing that.



Yeah...their floor right now is about 30%, so it's not like they're facing the prospect of electoral ruin right now. They may stumble a bit post-Harper (whether that comes next week, next year or whenever), but I wouldn't bet on their demise.

I don;t think they are going to die either. It's unlikely, but it's an option depending on what they do. I think they are smart enough to make sure not to do anything that will kill their party.I could see their support drop possibly to under 20% in a future election like what happened with the Liberals in 2011.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Get Trudeau to post on GAF!

Gutter would get a heart attack

 

[Tiktaalik]

when i saw him today he was fucking dead, he said he cant wait to get some sleep, no idea how he did his speech, even talking with him he barely had a voice. He was worried he wouldnt be able to finish his speech tonight but they turned up the microphone so he didnt have to shout as much.

I really don't know how these guys do it. Especially with this long campaign.

It's not just them either, there's the core campaign group and hardcore volunteers as well. Everyone is hustling all the time.

 

[TheStruggler]

Get Trudeau to post on GAF!

He knows OF Gaf because i told him about it, but no way in hell will he post on here lol. He asked generally what was the talk lately because I brought it up, I said mostly people digging at the ford family and the hypocrisy. How harper is tough drugs yet is holding a party with the fords lol, he chuckled at that.

 

[BigJonsson]

He knows OF Gaf because i told him about it, but no way in hell will he post on here lol. He asked generally what was the talk lately because I brought it up, I said mostly people digging at the ford family and the hypocrisy. How harper is tough drugs yet is holding a party with the fords lol, he chuckled at that.

No way! lol

 

[TheStruggler]

I really don't know how these guys do it. Especially with this long campaign.

It's not just them either, there's the core campaign group and hardcore volunteers as well. Everyone is hustling all the time.

as I stated before he is on fumes I would even say past fumes. He is just "there", he has a great team with him that have helped him, he has a great drive but generally he is almost at his limit, this last tour and possible celebration will kill him lol

 

[Apathy]

He knows OF Gaf because i told him about it, but no way in hell will he post on here lol. He asked generally what was the talk lately because I brought it up, I said mostly people digging at the ford family and the hypocrisy. How harper is tough drugs yet is holding a party with the fords lol, he chuckled at that.

We made it, Justin knows of us

 

[Mike Works]

He knows OF Gaf because i told him about it, but no way in hell will he post on here lol. He asked generally what was the talk lately because I brought it up, I said mostly people digging at the ford family and the hypocrisy. How harper is tough drugs yet is holding a party with the fords lol, he chuckled at that.

Next time can you please tell him about this poster named gutter trash who loves Mulcair and desperately wants the NDP to win?

 

[TheStruggler]

Next time can you please tell him about this poster named gutter trash who loves Mulcair and desperately wants the NDP to win?

lol ok...We also mentioned how Mulcair's fake smile is creepy as fuck and we think scares people, the word vampire was used from my point of view

 

[Joeku]

I would think that in the quiet moments over drinks like this he'd want to talk about anything that ISN'T politics. Lord knows I would.

 

[Tiktaalik]

Is Trudeau an Xbox guy or Sony guy this is important...

 

[TheStruggler]

I would think that in the quiet moments over drinks like this he'd want to talk about anything that ISN'T politics. Lord knows I would.

of course we shoot the shit and talk about a variety of things however this is a man that is focused and refuses to have any sort of slip up in the next two days before the election, he is living and breathing it now its all that is mostly on his mind

 

[Animator]

apparently he avoided the question

just ranting his tagline over and over again and talking about Trudeau.... he did have a photo shoot with the Ford family afterwards though

His rally mustered around 600+ people, while on the same day Trudeau and Muclair's rally individually rallied 3000+ in Windsor and Vancouver

Harpers voting base is too old to go to rallies.

 

[mo60]

of course we shoot the shit and talk about a variety of things however this is a man that is focused and refuses to have any sort of slip up in the next two days before the election, he is living and breathing it now its all that is mostly on his mind

I hope he rests for a bit after monday and takes a nice break until parliament reopens.

 

[Sean C]

I drew up my list of the ten ridings I'm most interested in seeing the result in on Monday (or early on Tuesday), from east to west:

1. Saint John-Rothesay: The main riding in the Atlantic that I’m on the fence on. I’m going to say a narrow Liberal win, just based on momentum, but it could easily be a Tory hold.
2. Spadina-Fort York: Does Olivia Chow’s attempted comeback flame out?
3. Vaughan-Woodbridge: Can we make the House of Commons a Fantino-free zone?
4. Kenora: An all-out brawl in western Ontario between incumbent Tory minister Greg Rickford, the former provincial NDP leader Howard Hampton, and longtime former Liberal MP and cabinet minister Bob Nault.
5. Elmwood-Transcona: Another member of the Blaikie family attempts to get into the House of Commons.
6. Edmonton-Mill Woods: Can the Liberals get a seat in Edmonton?
7. Calgary Centre: Can the Liberals get a seat in Calgary?
8. Calgary-Confederation: See above.
9. Calgary-Skyview: See above.
10. Victoria: Can the Greens get their second Vancouver Island seat?

 

[Mr.Sumal]

He knows OF Gaf because i told him about it, but no way in hell will he post on here lol. He asked generally what was the talk lately because I brought it up, I said mostly people digging at the ford family and the hypocrisy. How harper is tough drugs yet is holding a party with the fords lol, he chuckled at that.

he knows of gaf eh

 

[TheStruggler]

I hope he rests for a bit after monday and takes a nice break until parliament reopens.

monday will be hectic no sleep for him even after a few days, when things calm down he said he cant wait to sleep in his home again and not have that feeling of being on the road

 

[Professor Renegade]

Probably late to the party here, but how low can Harper even go?

"You guys, drugs are really bad. Trudeau and Mulcair are bad because they support drugs, so a vote for me is a vote againstm drugs....Now excuse me while I go attend a rally hosted by the former crackhead mayot of Toronto."

 

[Tiktaalik]

I drew up my list of the ten ridings I'm most interested in seeing the result in on Monday (or early on Tuesday), from east to west:

1. Saint John-Rothesay: The main riding in the Atlantic that I’m on the fence on. I’m going to say a narrow Liberal win, just based on momentum, but it could easily be a Tory hold.
2. Spadina-Fort York: Does Olivia Chow’s attempted comeback flame out?
3. Vaughan-Woodbridge: Can we make the House of Commons a Fantino-free zone?
4. Kenora: An all-out brawl in western Ontario between incumbent Tory minister Greg Rickford, the former provincial NDP leader Howard Hampton, and longtime former Liberal MP and cabinet minister Bob Nault.
5. Elmwood-Transcona: Another member of the Blaikie family attempts to get into the House of Commons.
6. Edmonton Mill Woods: Can the Liberals get a seat in Edmonton?
7. Calgary Centre: Can the Liberals get a seat in Calgary?
8. Calgary Confederation: See above.
9. Calgary Skyview: See above.
10. Victoria: Can the Greens get their second Vancouver Island seat?

+

Burnaby-North Seymour: Possibly the most gerrymandered riding in Canada, formed from a Conservative riding and NDP stronghold. Who wins?
Vancouver Granville: Tons of drama between Lib and NDP. Who wins? Do the Conservatives sneak up the middle?
South Surrey/White Rock: Super star Conservative candidate that's been inexplicably muzzled by the party. Does she still squeek out a victory in this Conservative stronghold or will it finally switch to Liberal?

 

[Apathy]

It's the cbc going to stream election coverage on Monday?

 

[Mr.Sumal]

It's the cbc going to stream election coverage on Monday?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/follow-cbc-s-by-the-minute-election-night-coverage-on-our-live-results-page-1.3270114

 

[killer rin]

It's the cbc going to stream election coverage on Monday?

I think I remember them saying they were going to stream the Election Coverage, not sure what the link is going to be though

 

[eBay Huckster]

beyond the topline results Monday night, there's approximately three ridings in all of Canada I give a shit about:

Outremont (for obvious reasons), Hamilton East-Stoney Creek (because I used to work for Marston), and Victoria (because I want to see if they piss away a good MP for Green #2)

 

[Sibylus]

I'm going to groan if (when) Kelowna votes for lizardsuit man for the fourth straight time.

 

[BigJonsson]

I'm looking forward to Vaughan-Woodbridge, York Centre, University Rosedale, Fort York - Spadina, Eglinton - Lawrence

 

[maharg]

I really just care about Edmonton Centre because being represented by non-conservatives at every level of government would be like waking up from a nightmare.

 

[SRG01]

I'm going to groan if (when) Kelowna votes for lizardsuit man for the fourth straight time.

Wait, who?

 

[Firestorm]

y'all tellin' me we might a prime minister that knows about gaf?

 

[Indicate]

I'm really close to deleting some old friends on Facebook whom I haven't talked to in almost a decade. I'm getting tired of seeing posts lately on conservative nonsense such as the niqab issue, the denial of anthropogenic climate change, and the denial of disproportionate treatment against blacks. The most recent post on my timeline was a picture of Trudeau with the words "Soft on Canadian values".

 

[Sibylus]

Wait, who?

Harper, through his old man surrogate lizards.

 

[TheStruggler]

y'all tellin' me we might a prime minister that knows about gaf?

lol knows OF but will never post, mostly because i brought it up to him myself and the elections topic, he likes getting a general sense of what people online are saying as well....no idea why used gaf in that answer lol

 

[killer rin]

I'm really close to deleting some old friends on Facebook whom I haven't talked to in almost a decade. I'm getting tired of seeing posts lately on conservative nonsense such as the niqab issue, the denial of anthropogenic climate change, and the denial of disproportionate treatment against blacks. The most recent post on my timeline was a picture of Trudeau with the words "Soft on Canadian values".

Well, if you want to go scorch earth, feel free to dig for some pointers in here, although objective facts tend to drive conservative voters crazy

Spoiler

Luckily, I haven't run into the issue of needing to cull the herd on my facebook friends yet, mainly because my demographic just doesn't vote :/

lol knows OF but will never post, mostly because i brought it up to him myself and the elections topic, he likes getting a general sense of what people online are saying as well....no idea why used gaf in that answer lol

Well, if you get the chance, tell him how much we care about Electoral Reform*wink wink nudge nudge*

Spoiler

Still, pretty cool that you know him personally. Sounds like it would be a fun time

 

[Firestorm]

lol knows OF but will never post, mostly because i brought it up to him myself and the elections topic, he likes getting a general sense of what people online are saying as well....no idea why used gaf in that answer lol

one step at a time. good work my friend

we doin it canada-gaf

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Is Trudeau an Xbox guy or Sony guy this is important...

For some reason I feel he's a Nintendo guy.

 

[matthewwhatever]

I drew up my list of the ten ridings I'm most interested in seeing the result in on Monday (or early on Tuesday), from east to west:

1. Saint John-Rothesay: The main riding in the Atlantic that I’m on the fence on. I’m going to say a narrow Liberal win, just based on momentum, but it could easily be a Tory hold.
2. Spadina-Fort York: Does Olivia Chow’s attempted comeback flame out?
3. Vaughan-Woodbridge: Can we make the House of Commons a Fantino-free zone?
4. Kenora: An all-out brawl in western Ontario between incumbent Tory minister Greg Rickford, the former provincial NDP leader Howard Hampton, and longtime former Liberal MP and cabinet minister Bob Nault.
5. Elmwood-Transcona: Another member of the Blaikie family attempts to get into the House of Commons.
6. Edmonton-Mill Woods: Can the Liberals get a seat in Edmonton?
7. Calgary Centre: Can the Liberals get a seat in Calgary?
8. Calgary-Confederation: See above.
9. Calgary-Skyview: See above.
10. Victoria: Can the Greens get their second Vancouver Island seat?

+

Burnaby-North Seymour: Possibly the most gerrymandered riding in Canada, formed from a Conservative riding and NDP stronghold. Who wins?
Vancouver Granville: Tons of drama between Lib and NDP. Who wins? Do the Conservatives sneak up the middle?
South Surrey/White Rock: Super star Conservative candidate that's been inexplicably muzzled by the party. Does she still squeek out a victory in this Conservative stronghold or will it finally switch to Liberal?

For me:
Halifax, Parkdale-High Park & Churchill: these should be safe NDP seats, but I'm curious if the Liberals will be able to steal any or all of them
South Surrey-White Rock: Mainly because Tik has been driven so crazy by the 308 projection that had it Liberal, despite its Conservative leanings and a relatively big-name Conservative candidate
Ottawa Centre: Like Halifax, it should be a safe NDP seat, but Catherine McKenna has been going for it hard for a year and a half now, and the advance turnout was insanely high -- already almost 20k of 92k voters have voted
Nepean & Kanata-Carleton: these should be super-safe CPC seats, so I want to see if they get taken out by an Ottawa-wide red wave
Victoria: I think the Greens might just pull it off, especially with no Liberal active in the race
Calgary Confederation/Skyview/Centre: Not just one, but three Liberals from Calgary? That would be insane.

I feel like I should have a Quebec riding or two on here, but it's hard to pick just one. That whole province has the potential to be crazy on election night with all those three- and four-way races.

 

[Sakura]

It's the cbc going to stream election coverage on Monday?

I can't imagine a possible reason why the CBC would not stream coverage of the election.

 

[killer rin]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/follow-cbc-s-by-the-minute-election-night-coverage-on-our-live-results-page-1.3270114

Damn, thats actually a pretty nifty site for the Election. CBC should give itself a pat on the back

 

[Cynar]

By too toxic I mean the stuff they are doing in this election and the stuff they did while in government is probably going to haunt them for the next decade or so and will hurt them also. Also,every single time a governing party loses power in Canada in the last three decades or so it takes like a decade to come back and until they figure out how to come back the amount of seats they get in every election either declines, they slowly come back(gain seats in the next election and following elections until they regain power) or they become irrelevant like what happened to the PC's after the 1993 election. Any of the above options can happen to the conservatives in the next decade or so.

When we get proportional representation a lot will change.