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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015

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Someone with photoshop skills should put Harper and Trudeau in this gif.

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Silexx

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I didn't follow this election at all, but what did Justin promise in terms of this?

Justin himself didn't talk much about it aside from promising improved public services towards Canadians.

However, the local candidates in Ottawa campaigned on honouring the collective bargaining process and improve relations with public servants.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Who said anything about kids getting cheap weed?

Legalization puts a big roadblock for the underaged. :p

And I'm from BC, we know our product, Justin knows this too, since he's also from BC.

In what world do kids not drink? ;)
Kids will drink piss water because they want to get wasted fast and cheap. I'm sure there will be the Budweiser or Coca Cola of pot that will make its business up in volume rather than quality.

I think he's pointing out they wouldn't get fake majorities anymore and so they do what they can to make PR seem weird and scary and threatening when it's just the default mode of democracy in almost every other place in the world.
See BC and Ontario. Initiatives designed to fail.
 

Willectro

Banned
In what world do kids not drink? ;)
Kids will drink piss water because they want to get wasted fast and cheap. I'm sure there will be the Budweiser or Coca Cola of pot that will make its business up in volume rather than quality.

Apples and oranges. I'm not even going to waste time on this, because there is an absolute overwhelming amount of data on this topic that proves otherwise. You and Harper were part of the minority (lol) that didn't receive the memo years back.
 

ItIsOkBro

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Why not just use the kinds of systems used by ninety per cent of the EU & OECD countries? You know. PR.

Seriously. It's not like these things haven't been in use for many many years and aren't thoroughly studied or anything.

Because deep down inside I know I don't wand these conservative candidates around me to get elected
 

Tiktaalik

Member
I'm still waiting for you to explain why it's a terrible voting system. ;)

lol well Conservatives are the #2 choice of a lot of people too...


Video of Trudeau hanging out at the subway this morning.
https://www.facebook.com/GlobalNews/videos/909043272476772/

Can you imagine Harper doing this after a victory?

I'm an NDP supporter, but I really like Trudeau and I'm happy to have him as PM. He's off to a great start with small, positive moves like this.
 
I've spent part of the day getting further acquainted with my future PM. Strangely, I am warming up to him. His enthusiasm is infectious, I have to say. I may disagree with parts of his social/economic platform (mostly about the means rather than the ends), but this new era in Canadian politics has me interested, despite my party not winning/getting trounced. Really curious to see how he is going to pull off his pre-election promises.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Apples and oranges. I'm not even going to waste time on this, because there is an absolute overwhelming amount of data on this topic that proves otherwise. You and Harper were part of the minority (lol) that didn't receive the memo years back.
I want legal cocaine so I don't know how I am in the same boat as Harper. I just think it makes sense for the prices to go down, unless the growers decide to be an oligopoly and keep prices high like Bell and Rogers with cell phone plans.
 

Walpurgis

Banned
I want legal cocaine so I don't know how I am in the same boat as Harper. I just think it makes sense for the prices to go down, unless the growers decide to be an oligopoly and keep prices high like Bell and Rogers with cell phone plans.

The Liberals better do something about this. I know they are chummy with business but I think they like free markets too and right now, that is not a free market.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
The Liberals better do something about this. I know they are chummy with business but I think they like free markets too and right now, that is not a free market.
Hah.

Even when the Conservatives tried to open up competition by auctioning off spectrum last year, there were no new bidders. I think Americans would laugh at us wanting T-Mobile or Sprint to come to Canada, but that's how desperate we are when it comes to telecommunications here.
 

Walpurgis

Banned
Hah.

Even when the Conservatives tried to open up competition by auctioning off spectrum last year, there were no new bidders. I think Americans would laugh at us wanting T-Mobile or Sprint to come to Canada, but that's how desperate we are when it comes to telecommunications here.

I think the Egyptian guy is still willing. If they let him in instead of impeding him like last time, Rogers, Bell, MTS, Shaw and friends will fall in line. I read an article awhile ago saying that in the short time that he was here, prices for the competition dropped noticeably.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Isn't Metro a different company? I think the Star tried to make a free daily and it failed.

Yes and no.

The star made their own daily then bought a significant share in the Canadian metro paper and merged theirs into it.

Metro still exists internationally as its own entity and they still own a portion of the paper that the Toronto star publishes.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I think the Egyptian guy is still willing. If they let him in instead of impeding him like last time, Rogers, Bell, MTS, Shaw and friends will fall in line.
I ignored the Liberal platform because I believed the NDP would win, but would the Liberals actually allow more foreign competition in Canada? Because last time the major carriers played the "foreigners taking over our airwaves card" and blasted us with those shitty ads.


DON'T MAKE TELUS GUY CRY

Yes and no.

The star made their own daily then bought a significant share in the Canadian metro paper and merged theirs into it.

Metro still exists internationally as its own entity and they still own a portion of the paper that the Toronto star publishes.
Ah, that makes sense.
 
I ignored the Liberal platform because I believed the NDP would win, but would the Liberals actually allow more foreign competition in Canada? Because last time the major carriers played the "foreigners taking over our airwaves card" and blasted us with those shitty ads.




Ah, that makes sense.

Did anyone actually buy into those ads? If anything, I'd say they eroded some public support (not that that's saying much, their public support is probably at 0.5%).
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Did anyone actually buy into those ads? If anything, I'd say they eroded some public support (not that that's saying much, their public support is probably at 0.5%).
Probably not. I expect Verizon pulled out for other reasons, but I just assume that the Canadian telecom market is the least attractive business to invest in. Well, unless you can buy a part of Bell, Rogers, or Telus (or Videotron I suppose).
 

maharg

idspispopd
Question about Doug Ford running for Tory leadership - don't you need a seat in Parliament to be able to do that?

No. You don't even technically need a seat in parliament to be PM. The leader of the party is not a position in parliament (although, as Sean C pointed out like a hundred pages ago, if the leader isn't in the house someone is appointed as the "leader in the house").

Jack Layton spent a year and a half outside parliament before he won his seat after winning the leadership. Gilles Duceppe hasn't had a seat since 2011 and is still the leader of the Bloc (though he wasn't for a while in the middle of that).
 

Azih

Member
Front page of Toronto Sun was actually pretty clever. Giant picture of I believe Pierre Trudeau (didn't stop to look carefully) but the giant headline was

FUDDLE DUDDLE!
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
You'd think he would have looked at how Hudak's campaign annihilated itself after proclaiming the same thing and not do the exact same thing

problem with hudak's campaign is he was saying he'd add more jobs than the amount of unemployed people (which is less than 600,000)
 

maharg

idspispopd
problem with hudak's campaign is he was saying he'd add more jobs than the amount of unemployed people (which is less than 600,000)

I don't know the details, but that's not exactly impossible. Unemployment figures don't generally include people who aren't actively looking for work (both people who are discouraged and stopped looking and people who wouldn't be looking anyways).
 
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