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[Tabris]

I think I do have a distorted view of the language laws.

I just was told a story by my buddy being busted by the "language police" in Montreal when he was a waiter, so I've been going based on the experiences he talked about.

Maybe it's changed since then.

 

[Prax]

It's the smart, strategically minded people who might surround him that worry me, personally.

I am not so cynical to think that the people who have galvanized behind him will think up of useless and corrupt policies for self gain.
I have hope that they understood what we elected Trudeau and the Liberal Party for.
Even if what they do isn't 100% perfect or effective, I am sure it will be better than the last decade.

 

[maharg]

I am not so cynical to think that the people who have galvanized behind him will think up of useless and corrupt policies for self gain.
I have hope that they understood what we elected Trudeau and the Liberal Party for.
Even if what they do isn't 100% perfect or effective, I am sure it will be better than the last decade.

This "evil mastermind" scenario isn't really what I'm concerned about. I'm concerned about something much more mundane: They're like gutter_trash and believe the Liberals are the Natural Governing Party and will do what they can to ensure the Liberals can continue to govern most of the time. I don't think this is them aiming for personal gain at all, I just don't agree with their idea of the greater good.

 

[Walpurgis]

I think we done good Canada. Correct we if I am wrong, but other than France, are we not the only other left leaning nation in the G7? I count The Democrats among the right wing, in some ways, they are even more right wing than the Conservatives.

I wouldn't call the only country in the world to ban women from wearing headscarves (with support from all major parties) left leaning so that leaves Italy and Canada.

Look, deep down inside we all wanted that thread to happen. It cant be helped, we're all still high off the election results

You're right. I just didn't want to be responsible for making it.

 

[bonesmccoy]

I figured McKay was a shoe-in for next CPC leader - but I wonder if he'll be interested in returning to politics so soon. Seems like he read the same tea leaves as a lot of other Conservatives.

Kenney... he'd be alright I guess? Really anyone other than Harper is going to be an improvement for the country, unless they manage to find someone as neoliberal and neoconservative as he was.

What the hell was she thinking? Heh. Maybe it was all according to keikaku.

'I'm going to sink these a-holes'

 

[lupinko]

I think we done good Canada. Correct we if I am wrong, but other than France, are we not the only other left leaning nation in the G7? I count The Democrats among the right wing, in some ways, they are even more right wing than the Conservatives.

Last I checked, Obama and the Democrats weren't turning Americans into second class citizens and revoking their citizenship nor were they specifically targeting Muslims with dog whistle hatemongering.

 

[firehawk12]

What do AV and STV stand for?

It's already been explained, but Australia just serves as an interesting example. AV has produced basically two parties - Labour and the Coalition, which is a less formal version of what the CPC when they mashed Reform and PC together.

The STV elected Senate is the one that's interesting to watch, because it's where the Greens can sometimes have the balance of power depending on how the vote shakes up. You can see how both systems work, in tandem, with each other.

 

[GSG Flash]

I wish people would stop saying this without examining it. Please explain one policy plank where the Democrats are to the right of the CPC.

Yup I've never understood why people keep peddling that train of thought. Perhaps the old federal PC's may have been more left on certain issues than the Democrats, but the Conservatives under Harper were right on essentially every issue, they were a carbon copy of the GOP under Bush.

 

[Tabris]

Last I checked, Obama and the Democrats weren't turning Americans into second class citizens and revoking their citizenship nor were they specifically targeting Muslims with dog whistle hatemongering.

Yeah, Democrats were to the right of the old PCs, but not new conservatives.

What does make our new conservatives slightly left of Democrats in one way is what they can't repeal. Conservatives could never get rid of Universal Healthcare in Canada, while Democrats are struggling to get it implemented in the US.

 

[Firestorm]

Yup I've never understood why people keep peddling that train of thought. Perhaps the old federal PC's may have been more left on certain issues than the Democrats, but the Conservatives under Harper were right on essentially every issue, they were a carbon copy of the GOP under Bush.

I think it's because they think of issues Canadians won't let the Conservatives touch like gay marriage, abortion, and universal health care. If Harper's Conservatives could abolish those things without losing 100% of their seats, who knows but yeah seems more based on Canadian values than the actual party.

 

[Walpurgis]

I think it's because they think of issues Canadians won't let the Conservatives touch like gay marriage, abortion, and universal health care. If Harper's Conservatives could abolish those things without losing 100% of their seats, who knows but yeah seems more based on Canadian values than the actual party.

This. The Conservatives would love to do all of those things but it would be suicide. Even their base couldn't take all of that.

 

[S-Wind]

If Trudeau and other provinces were to follow BC's carbon tax model, then you tax carbon, but direct the entirety of the revenue towards tax cuts. This way polluters pay, but people who change their lifestyles receive the positive benefits of a reduced tax bill.

The result has been that BC has the lowest income tax, one of the lowest corporate tax rates, dropped fuel use by 16% and all the while its GDP outperformed the rest of Canada.

BC's carbon tax has been a massive success in all areas. Bafflingly no one else in Canada suggests copying it.

IIRC, a carbon tax was part of Stephane Dion's Green Shift platform.

 

[Tabris]

But how much has it reduced carbon emissions? It's great to force polluters to pay but if it doesn't deter them, then it's a bit pointless in what we are trying to accomplish for the Paris talks.

If it does deter them more then the other provincial plans, then we should definitely copy it across the board.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

No. I don't like it when Quebec parties oppress minorities in their own province and cry about being oppressed federally.

"Quebec" does not oppress minorities. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms is law here too, you know. Plus we have our own Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms.

I think I do have a distorted view of the language laws.

Ya think?

I just was told a story by my buddy being busted by the "language police" in Montreal when he was a waiter, so I've been going based on the experiences he talked about.

Maybe it's changed since then.

....wat

I wouldn't call the only country in the world to ban women from wearing headscarves (with support from all major parties) left leaning so that leaves Italy and Canada.

Assuming you mean France, they aren't banned from wearing headscarves, only face veils.

 

[firehawk12]

You guys forget that Obama used the NSA to spy on its own citizens.
Not to mention the increase in drone strikes and the cavalier attitude with civilian deaths and casualties (whoops, we blew up a MSF hospital).

 

[AuthenticM]

Jean Charest is not interested in succeeding Stephen Harper.

 

[Spl1nter]

You worked on the campaign in York Centre?

Yep, it was a lot of fun. We had an excellent core team.

Are you part of the LPC or something?

With all the new seats hopefully I will be.

 

[AuthenticM]

When is the next Canada PoliGaf thread going up? I think it is time we retired this one.

 

[BigJonsson]

Yep, it was a lot of fun. We had an excellent core team.



With all the new seats hopefully I will be.

Cool, good work!

 

[gabbo]

Yep, it was a lot of fun. We had an excellent core team.



With all the new seats hopefully I will be.

How did you get involved in the first place? I was tempted to search out the NDP team for my riding, but wasn't sure where to begin

 

[TheRealTalker]

When is the next Canada PoliGaf thread going up? I think it is time we retired this one.

who knows

after Trudeau settles in?

when he has his cabinet?

When he goes to his first international summit in November?

 

[gutter_trash]

When is the next Canada PoliGaf thread going up? I think it is time we retired this one.

I am really happy about this. I want the the Justin Liberal Party to be dominant in Quebec.

Charest would have fucked that up, glad he is not going back to politics.

God bless his wife for being against him returning to politics.

who knows

after Trudeau settles in?

when he has his cabinet?

When he goes to his first international summit in November?

Canada poliGAF - a Justin Society

 

[Entropia]

The Canada poligaf is still around: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464735 it just hasn't been posted in since September 1 understandably.

 

[Lexxism]

Time to change the title of that thread.

 

[Zombie James]

Time to change the title of that thread.

Better to close it and create a new thread, imho. Time to shelve that period of Canadian politics.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Better to close it and create a new thread, imho. Time to shelve that period of Canadian politics.

We could do like AusGAF and keep this thread as PoliGAF until we need a new one

 

[TheRealTalker]

Better to close it and create a new thread, imho. Time to shelve that period of Canadian politics.

yeah it is a new term

starting fresh would make it more organized

 

[Walpurgis]

We should have a new thread when parliament reopens. I nominate gutter to name it.

 

[Stet]

|OT| Canadian PoliGAF - Rescued Justin Time

 

[Lexxism]

We should have a new thread when parliament reopens. I nominate gutter to name it.

lol no.

|OT| Canadian PoliGAF - Rescued Justin Time

Perfect.

 

[Parch]

Lol the western separatist shit is hilarious

Like, why would BC or Manitoba join you at all

I did live in BC for 21 years. I know for a fact that they're just as sick of paying equalization payments to eastern Canada as Alberta is.
I also know that most people from BC want nothing to do with becoming American. Can't blame them for that.

 

[gutter_trash]

We should have a new thread when parliament reopens. I nominate gutter to name it.

|OT| Canadian PoliGAF - a Justin Society

get it? no? you guys too young to remember Pierre Trudeau calling to make a Canada a ''Just Society'' ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ofi2CtT_eY

get it?

''A Justin Society''

 

[AuthenticM]

I have something simpler:

Canadian PoliGaf |OT| He was ready

 

[killer rin]

When is the next Canada PoliGaf thread going up? I think it is time we retired this one.

I'm pretty sure we agreed on keeping this one going until Parliament Resumes and Justin is sworn in, besides its kind of nice having a bunch of people to talk Canadian politics with, once we go back to Community, that will slowly die off.

Spoiler

...Then again, we could pull like a bunch of other OTs and make them in OT, then move them over to Community after 100 posts and we have a dedicated community on the new thread going

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

I have something simpler:

Canadian PoliGaf |OT| He was ready

LOL +1

 

[Blackhead]

|OT| Canadian PoliGAF - Rescued Justin Time

+1

 

[killer rin]

I have something simpler:

Canadian PoliGaf |OT| He was ready

|OT| Canadian PoliGAF - a Justin Society

Both of these are good

 

[gutter_trash]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-shooting-one-year-later-1.3272984

Live stream of the 1 year anniversary ceremony commemorating the memory of Patrice Vincent and Nathan Cirillo

--

http://www.cpac.ca/en/brightcove/?ls=93&l=en

select FLOOR in cpac for those who don't want translators

 

[pr0cs]

Lol the western separatist shit is hilarious

Like, why would BC or Manitoba join you at all

$$$
All those transfer payments sucked up by the east could be used solely for the west.

 

[Pedrito]

Modern dance hater and former bully Krista Erickson wrote a scathing piece on Kory Teneycke and Sun News Network that was rapidly deleted.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...tives/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca#.Vij1Ois0f4z

Spoiler

stolen from Reddit

 

[killer rin]

$$$
All those transfer payments sucked up by the east could be used solely for the west.

Its not exactly as simple as that. The money you "saved" will then have to be funneled into training and keeping a Military, setting up several government agencies and everything else which is subsidized by the taxes from the 23Million people in the provinces you left behind

 

[Pedrito]

$$$
All those transfer payments sucked up by the east could be used solely for the west.

Well excuse us for not having a big dinosaur graveyard in our backyard.

If we did, I'm sure we'd be just as hard working as our Albertan friends.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

$$$
All those transfer payments sucked up by the east could be used solely for the west.

In 50 years when oil is no longer a viable fuel source Alberta's going to be very thankful those transfer payments exist.

 

[Sibylus]

Still a believer in The Hunt for Red October.

 

[gutter_trash]

Still a believer in The Hunt for Red October.

too much commie connotations associated with it, I say nay

 

[matthewwhatever]

I figured McKay was a shoe-in for next CPC leader - but I wonder if he'll be interested in returning to politics so soon. Seems like he read the same tea leaves as a lot of other Conservatives.

Kenney... he'd be alright I guess? Really anyone other than Harper is going to be an improvement for the country, unless they manage to find someone as neoliberal and neoconservative as he was.

Kenney is waaaaaaay worse than Harper in almost every respect. Imagine Harper without the gravitas, moderation, sex appeal...basically, strip Harper of all his relatively good qualities, and you get Kenney. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets it, since he's been working so diligently towards it for a few years now, but he'd be an absolute disaster. It wouldn't be hard to paint him as a Stockwell Day-style extremist.

When is the next Canada PoliGaf thread going up? I think it is time we retired this one.

We should have a new thread when parliament reopens. I nominate gutter to name it.

As I said before, I'd be happy to put together the new thread, and put it up the first week of November -- that coincides with Trudeau getting sworn in, and we'd have a better sense of what the cabinet will be and when Parliament will resume. It was fun creating this OP.

And I'm still fond of Red Leaf Redemption, though A Justin Society or He's Ready are both growing on me.

 

[Sibylus]

too much commie connotations associated with it, I say nay

Tom Clancy is too commie for you gutter? He would bite his thumbs at you if he still had them.

 

[gutter_trash]

I agree with matthewwhatever,

better wait for the formation of a new cabinet

 

[Pedrito]

Kenney is waaaaaaay worse than Harper in almost every respect. Imagine Harper without the gravitas, moderation, sex appeal...basically, strip Harper of all his relatively good qualities, and you get Kenney. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets it, since he's been working so diligently towards it for a few years now, but he'd be an absolute disaster. It wouldn't be hard to paint him as a Stockwell Day-style extremist.

 

[matthewwhatever]

Speaking of Conservative Leadership possibilities, Michelle Rempel (CPC MP from Calgary) went on a Twitter rant last night. Some of the best bits:

Just not ready is no longer an argument. Times have changed.

All your DMs with DO IT aren't helping. I'm a 35 year old chick. We're not supposed to do these sorts of things, you know.

My party can reflect all of Canada.

Many of you talk about women in leadership in politics.

These are the things we face. I am competent, proven, and ready. Here's the question - are you ready for someone like me?

She's pretty partisan from what I've seen of her on TV, but I wouldn't count her out. If the Conservatives are looking for a fresh, non-Harper face, someone like her or Lisa Raitt would be interesting choices.

What, you think Harper has moderation or gravitas, either? My point was that as unsexy, unserious and immoderate as Harper is, Kenney is infinitely worse in every respect.