Captain America 3 to square off against Batman/Superman in 2016

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Discotheque said:
Yeah I really don't see both these films opening on the same week. They will eat at each other. Batman and superman will be the victor just because holy fuck those two are in a film together finally, but both would benefit much more from being spaced apart

Avengers was huge, but I don't see these cap films getting a boost nearly as large as Iron Man 3 did. Thor 2 for example just did alright and I imagine that's a bigger series than captain America. Rdj stark da gawd. They really need somebody as charismatic for phase 3
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Thor 2's gross shot up 50% (ish) over the first one, and Cap 2 is already trending for an opening weekend bigger than Thor's.

They're not getting the IM3 boost for sure, but they're still doing really well.
 
Htown said:
WHERE IS MY BLACK PANTHER MOVIE YOU DOUCHEBAGS

yes, I will continue to do this every time until they announce it
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Someone needs to infiltrate Comicon and hold Kevin Feige hostage in Hall H with a thousand sweaty fat nerds until he commits to it.
 
SephCast said:
I know Evans is signed for Cap for 6 films, and he wants to ease up on acting after that. I see it like this:

Cap 1
Avengers
Cap 2
Avengers 2
Cap 3
Avengers 3 - Cap Dies as the big death against Thanos, hugely emotional. End of Evans' contract.

Cap 4 - Sebastian Stan takes over.

It's not like there isn't precedent for it.
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I completely agree. I've stood by this for a while.
 
SephCast said:
I know Evans is signed for Cap for 6 films, and he wants to ease up on acting after that. I see it like this:

Cap 1
Avengers
Cap 2
Avengers 2
Cap 3
Avengers 3 - Cap Dies as the big death against Thanos, hugely emotional. End of Evans' contract.

Cap 4 - Sebastian Stan takes over.

It's not like there isn't precedent for it.
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I'm fine with this as long as Cap picks up Mjolnir in either Avengers 2 or 3.
 
Oh please Marvel will back down. The Batman/Superman together hype is way too much for Cap to take on, it really would get steamrolled. They can easily move it to Memorial Day a few weeks later and probably will. Its perfectly fitting for Cap actually.
 
Blader said:
Thor 2's gross shot up 50% (ish) over the first one, and Cap 2 is already trending for an opening weekend bigger than Thor's.

They're not getting the IM3 boost for sure, but they're still doing really well.
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Didn't know that. But the only way cap3 does nearly as good as batman and superman is if they throw iron man into the mix
 
There's also another untitled Marvel movie for summer 2016. Comic Cons are going to be crazy that year. I wouldn't be surprised if there was another goddamn Spiderman movie too.

Batman/Superman looks like a record breaker from the brands alone. And I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Smith helped old Ben out for both hype and getting it right (or so I hope anyway). I think Captain America will need the Hulk or an Iron Man cameo to beat DC. EDIT: beaten
 
Yeah, one of them is going to budge. It's just idiotic for two massive superhero franchises to split their audience, and lose profit in the name of dick-swinging. The closest to a real face-off would be Captain America shifting a few days early for a July 4th release - then they split the weekend.

Also, Batman vs Superman would win that face-off. Hands-down.
 
Abounder said:
And I wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Smith helped old Ben out for both hype and getting it right (or so I hope anyway).
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Kevin Smith won't be touching this thing with a wadded up hockey jersey tied to the end of a 20 foot pole.

also, I maintain that if both studios actually played into the stupid "Marvel vs. DC" war, really shone a spotlight on the manufactured competition that they've been profiting off of since the 70s, they'd destroy cumulative box-office records. There would be no loser in that scenario. One might finish second, but they're both going to make ridiculous amounts of cash.

edit: However, as Phonciple just pointed out - the wrangling over available screens (which is why most studios don't go head-up with similar programming on the same weekeend) would be MIGHTY. That, more than anything, is going to be why WB probably moves off their date.
 
One will clearly budge due to the almighty dollar. No reason to lose money due to posturing.

Also, I'm a big Marvel guy...but Cap, regardless of how good Cap 2 and Avengers 2 and Cap 3 look to be/are... Bats/Supes would wreck Cap 3 unless it's truly, truly awful. Even then, it would still be a fight. Unless RDJ/Spider-Man or the Avengers are going to come together, Bats/Supes will torch any Marvel project in that weekend. Worldwide, only Stark and Parker mess with Wayne and Kent.

Definitely anticipating Captain America 2 moreso, though. TWS looks ah-mahzing, and I don't care much for the DC product. I should mess with Arrow though, everyone says it's awesome.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Kevin Smith won't be touching this thing with a wadded up hockey jersey tied to the end of a 20 foot pole.
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Yea I haven't been following Kevin Smith, but I wouldn't be surprised if Affleck keeps in touch especially now. Smith was the guy that supposedly converted Affleck into the comic world. Also Snyder talking to Frank Miller gives me hope that there's some passion behind the project, even though Frank's kinda crazy.

Shame that all of the superhero leads minus Downey Jr. are kind of boring though. Chris Evans, Ben Affleck, and Henry Cavill all need to have villains and sidekicks with charisma. Time will tell if Affleck and Cavill can pull off the Batman/Superman good cop/bad cop kind of dynamic.
 
I wonder if they can't adapt Cap's adventures in Wakanda (and meeting BP's grandpa?) because he was part of a European operation in the first movie.

I liked that Cap traveled around during WWII but the movie timeline didn't make that possible.
 
WB/DC will move simply because they cannot afford for Batman/Superman to underperform. If it turns into another Man of Steel, it will completely undercut the Justice League movie.

How well Captain America 3 does will have no effect whatsoever on The Avengers. Also Marvel simply doesn't give a fuck. They're confident in what they're doing.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
edit: However, as Phonciple just pointed out - the wrangling over available screens (which is why most studios don't go head-up with similar programming on the same weekeend) would be MIGHTY. That, more than anything, is going to be why WB probably moves off their date.
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ooh, that's a good point. And the fact that Cap 3 has the 3D screens tied up will probably win it preference with theaters over Superman/Batman.
 
Plus, as has been pointed out, Marvel already had the date. It was always their date first. We just didn't know which movie it was OFFICIALLY for until now.

WB was probably banking that it was Doctor Strange or some shit. Now that it's definitely Cap, and Cap looks like it's definitely going to deliver in a serious way, WB is either going to move World's Finest into June/July, or gamble on starting Movie Summer one week earlier, in April.
 
I really hope this next movie is good because damn Captain America is boring as hell. Cap 3 will get demolished if it goes against Batman / Superman
 
Cap is gonna lose financially, it'll probably lose to TASM3 as well. The real battle will be between Spider-Man and Bat/Supes.

Although, who knows how much Age of Ultron will do for Cap 3?
 
Mr. Nobody said:
kinda soon isn't it?

Ah nevermind, that's probably part of the big plan.
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I wouldn't say "soon," but definitely on a faster track between Cap 1 and 2 (2011 and 2014 release dates). With the Avengers 2 sandwiched between 2 and 3, it'll be a pretty tight production schedule.
 
Yea there's zero chance of them releasing in the same week because they'd just cannibalize eachother's sales and audiences. I do wonder what the other Marvel movie could be....the Black Widow project perhaps?
 
Abounder said:
Yea there's zero chance of them releasing in the same week because they'd just cannibalize eachother's sales and audiences. I do wonder what the other Marvel movie could be....the Black Widow project perhaps?
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Almost definitely Dr. Strange. They're looking at directors now.
 
Mighty Chin said:
On this page somebody said something really dumb. Really dumb. Let's see who can guess.
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was it me and the Europe-African theater thing? because what i meant that was Cap's movie kinda diminished his role in the war and instead chased Red Skull with only a few people. I could be wrong though
 
davepoobond said:
They're delaying one of them. No way will they open same day.
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This. Talk is cheap and this is corporate saber rattling of the worst kind. Neither of these films have started shooting yet so it renders the whole thing even more academic.

I also seriously doubt that the Marvel film in question is going to be Captain America 3. Why would Disney rush a third film (there were 3 years between Captain America 1 & 2) just to try and head WB's effort off at the pass? I think someone at Marvel is using THR to fire a shot across Warners' bow.

And while I realise that Marvel had an 'untitled film' already tentatively set on that date the fact that they are (per THR which I'm not convinced about) suddenly giving thought to sticking a major sequel there suggests that they are worried about WB's new DC universe as competitors. If BvS wasn't scheduled day and date with them would they be positioning Captain America 3 there?

Hmmm.

MisterHero said:
I hope ID4-2 is the dark horse and is really fucking good
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For what it's worth I'm still not convinced that Fox will ever make that film. Who cares about a Will Smith less ID-4 sequel?
 
PEOPLE: Batman/Superman already moved to the last weekend of April. There's no speculating on who will blink or who will move: Warner Brothers already did.
 
Busty said:
And while I realise that Marvel had an 'untitled film' already tentatively set on that date the fact that they are (per THR which I'm not convinced about) suddenly giving thought to sticking a major sequel there suggests that they are worried about WB's new DC universe as competitors. If BvS wasn't scheduled day and date with them would they be positioning Captain America 3 there?
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If it wasn't Cap, it'd be Thor 3 or Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Marvel isn't going to stick an unknown property in the May slot when they've got more tested franchises they know they can open big with.
 
I'll take Captain America, please.

The last two Superman movies severely sucked (MoS was one of the worst 'serious' superhero movies I've seen) and the last Batman was just 'ok'. At least the last Captain America movie was good and Avengers was exceptional.
 
massoluk said:
Captain America 3 will be the better film, but Superman/Batman will absolutely trash Captain America at the box office.
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This is not going to happen. Superman already has the curse of two bad movies in recent memory. A non-Nolan Batman, nor JLA cameos, will not save this movie.

Marvel, however, has all the momentum leading up to Cap 3.
 
Busty said:
This. Talk is cheap and this is corporate saber rattling of the worst kind. Neither of these films have started shooting yet so it renders the whole thing even more academic.

I also seriously doubt that the Marvel film in question is going to be Captain America 3. Why would Disney rush a third film (there were 3 years between Captain America 1 & 2) just to try and head WB's effort off at the pass? I think someone at Marvel is using THR to fire a shot across Warners' bow.

And while I realise that Marvel had an 'untitled film' already tentatively set on that date the fact that they are (per THR which I'm not convinced about) suddenly giving thought to sticking a major sequel there suggests that they are worried about WB's new DC universe as competitors. If BvS wasn't scheduled day and date with them would they be positioning Captain America 3 there?

Hmmm.
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They may be worried enough to not send a new IP like Black Panther or Captain Marvel out against it but with Zack Snyder running the show I doubt they're worried about it being a huge critical & commercial killer.
 
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