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Captain America: The Winter Soldier SPOILER THREAD | ...does anyone want to get out?
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BruceLeeRoy
Banned
How stupid. Hopefully Marvel gets the rights back and we can get a Civil War film.
The Cap vs Winter Solider fights were damn awesome, and the Armin Zola AI scene was interesting.
The appearances from Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were a nice teaser. Though having Quicksilver in Avengers 2 and Days of Future Past is going to confuse so many casual movie-goers. Why can't FOX and Disney just work something out? They don't have to surrender the rights, they can collaborate. Same with Sony (I just want Spider-Man in the MCU...)
Sooo what's going to happen to Agents of SHIELD? If SHIELD is no more after this movie...
The appearances from Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were a nice teaser. Though having Quicksilver in Avengers 2 and Days of Future Past is going to confuse so many casual movie-goers. Why can't FOX and Disney just work something out? They don't have to surrender the rights, they can collaborate. Same with Sony (I just want Spider-Man in the MCU...)
Sooo what's going to happen to Agents of SHIELD? If SHIELD is no more after this movie...
Callibretto
Member
They look nothing alike, also I'm not sure if they'll actually call pietro quicksilver in marvel. Falcon and crossbones are not named in this movie for example.
Well to be fair on those two fronts, actor Frank Grillo said that Winter Soldier is Crossbones origin story, and while Falcon (I thought they did call him that?), at least has it so the technology or at least the program that he was part of was known as Falcon, wouldn't be surprised if he takes up that name in Captain 3.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
They show that his name is Falcon on the file he showed Cap and Widow when they found out he wasn't a pilot. Crossbones isn't Crossbones yet.
Please no. That was the worst shit ever.
Maria Hill definitely calls him Falcon during the final battle whenever she was talking to him.
Chezzymann
Member
Awesome movie. Fantastic actions. Great story with a thought provoking message. The fights actually meant something for once, too!
Only complaint is that the whole virtual evil nazi doctor guy scene, it was a liiiiiiiiiiiiiitle too cheesy in my opinion. Ah well, just a minor annoyance.
Only complaint is that the whole virtual evil nazi doctor guy scene, it was a liiiiiiiiiiiiiitle too cheesy in my opinion. Ah well, just a minor annoyance.
Yeah the actor said this was going to be his origin story movie.
Rumlow? Yes. He'll become Xbones.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Kinda boring. Falcon was a dud. Worse than cap #1
The middle really drug on and in.
The middle really drug on and in.
ZeroGravity
Member
Great movie. I echo a lot of the praise here. It's definitely up there with Iron Man 3 as my favorite Marvel solo movie, and both for very different reasons.
Also, maybe it's been mentioned, but was Black Widow's line about "Where did Captain America learn to steal a car" a reference to the to the 1990 film? Or maybe it's just my wishful thinking, but that's the first thing I thought of and it made me chuckle.
Also, maybe it's been mentioned, but was Black Widow's line about "Where did Captain America learn to steal a car" a reference to the to the 1990 film? Or maybe it's just my wishful thinking, but that's the first thing I thought of and it made me chuckle.
She was likely trying to prevent it turning into a shooty bloodbath by having them surrender... unfortunately it turned into exactly that when she got disarmed and he fired.
I was starting to think I was the only person here who thought Iron Man 3 was the best one so far. High five!
Christopher
Member
My only complaint is that captain america gas the personality of a fucking cardboard cut out
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
shooty bloodbath in a room of people signed on to their duty to protect as opposed to 20 million people? she dropped the ball, man.
beyond_death
Member
This was the first movie that made me really like Black Widow. Same deal with The Dark World and Loki.
I hope not. I was expecting to see her on a few episodes for sure, but she needs a larger role in the movies. I don't know what it is, but I love Cobbie as Hill.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Man I love that guy
Zen_Arcade
Banned
No way. I would kill for that design. What we got was a good compromise though.better than his comic counterpart
Tizoc
Member
better than his comic counterpart
Dude was created during the 70s era of comics.
Thanks for clarifying it.
Mushroomer25
Member
It's a really fantastic film, and without a doubt the best of Phase 2. The action direction was top-notch - the entire pirate ship raid was perfectly tense, had excellent pacing, and some outstanding choreography. The Russos absolutely nailed it - fight direction was exciting, but followable. The entire elevator sequence was just genius, though I almost wish it hadn't been shown in the trailer. Same with a few of Fury's later lines, and the Helicarriers falling to earth. For a film that is just insanely dense with action, they cherry-picked material that edged a bit too far into spoiler territory.
Speaking of, I was suprised to realize I was the only one in my group that already knew Winter Solider was Bucky. I'm not sure where I picked up the information, but I somehow thought it was common knowledge. It also kind of sucks that I knew he was destined to survive, since he was recently signed on for several more Marvel films. It made the final after-credits sequence quite a bit anticlimactic. Really, the two stingers should have switched places - and that can be said for every film since Avengers. I'd prefer having the obvious tease (WS)/romantic climax (TDW)/Punchline (Avengers/IM3) come immediately after the animated actor roll - and have the big tease for the next film be more hidden away. It's the hardcore fans who are really going to appreciate the character reveals, and they're the ones sticking around.
Speaking of, I was suprised to realize I was the only one in my group that already knew Winter Solider was Bucky. I'm not sure where I picked up the information, but I somehow thought it was common knowledge. It also kind of sucks that I knew he was destined to survive, since he was recently signed on for several more Marvel films. It made the final after-credits sequence quite a bit anticlimactic. Really, the two stingers should have switched places - and that can be said for every film since Avengers. I'd prefer having the obvious tease (WS)/romantic climax (TDW)/Punchline (Avengers/IM3) come immediately after the animated actor roll - and have the big tease for the next film be more hidden away. It's the hardcore fans who are really going to appreciate the character reveals, and they're the ones sticking around.
blame space
Banned
this was pretty bad but fun enough. I dunno it really felt like a stopgap and I couldn't handle some of the dopeyness. it was OK.
and I saw it in 3D and it was awful.
and I saw it in 3D and it was awful.
The Elite
BOSS
Redford being invested in his role did a lot to legitimize the message of the film. Glad they managed to nab him and I'm glad he didn't just phone it in for a paycheck. Redford is class all the way.
But will he run Titanfall?
But will he run Titanfall?
Callibretto
Member
It will always felt like a stopgap since it's not like lord of the ring where there's a clear end game after 3 movie. They will keep making marvel movies as long as it keep making money, so the mcu will keep moving forward, with sequel tease at the end of every movie.
The Elite
BOSS
The way it should be. The marvel comic universe never ends and there is always an opening left for the next story. Same holds true for the films.
So fucking good$♤●{|<{○}>○♢■▪♡■▪♡□☆♤□☆♤□☆♤●☆♤●☆■●>>|_=-^$-/#/# Marvel is on some next shit right now. Can't wait for Guardians and Age of Ultron!!!!!!
Dat Dr. Strange name drop!!! Who is the strike agent leader supposed to become? The one that fought falcon at the end. Agent Rimlaut?
Edit: looks like he becomes Crossbones.
The fight scenes and action in general were amazing.
Dat Dr. Strange name drop!!! Who is the strike agent leader supposed to become? The one that fought falcon at the end. Agent Rimlaut?
Edit: looks like he becomes Crossbones.
The fight scenes and action in general were amazing.
Alcoremortis
Member
When I saw it, pretty much every line (well, every funny line) he said got an honest-to-goodness laugh from the audience. Some of the other jokes in the movie fell flat, but every one he told worked.
chickdigger802
Banned
watched in RPX. While the story was silly, the hand to hand fight choreography is about some of the best ive seen in western film/tv in the past decade. Some really good stuff. Cap finally feels like he got some weight to his movement instead of just feeling like wires are behind everything.
Something i didn't get though, why was hydra planning on taking out every trouble person RIGHT AWAY? Wouldn't shit be a bit obvious? And its just 3 helicarriers, surely there are enough heroes and what not in the marvel universe that can slap them down... but I guess them mentioning having banner and other heroes on target to take them out makes sense.
Still seems a bit too comic booky when everything else felt a bit more grounded...
Something i didn't get though, why was hydra planning on taking out every trouble person RIGHT AWAY? Wouldn't shit be a bit obvious? And its just 3 helicarriers, surely there are enough heroes and what not in the marvel universe that can slap them down... but I guess them mentioning having banner and other heroes on target to take them out makes sense.
Still seems a bit too comic booky when everything else felt a bit more grounded...
Rumlow becomes Crossbones who in the comics is muscle for the Red Skull
I think the issue is Zola basically has identified 20 million people who are threats to their plans. Even thought its unstated I imagine in that 20 million would be all the various superheroes, super villains etc. I don't think the plan was to wipe them all out at once but a gradual thing but then Cap learns everything and suddenly Hydra has to hightail everything
Razgriz-Specter
Member
LOL
Alcoremortis
Member
Way I saw it, they were doing it all at once so that nobody would be able to retaliate. The idea was that afterward seeing what massive destruction these Helicarriers were capable of, nobody would dare stand up to them. If they only picked off a few people at a time, some of the danger people might band together and take them out.
I wonder how the series will handle that
Also Caps notebook at the beginning that said "things to do" actually said Star Wars (right next to Star Trek).
BigJonsson
Member
Loved the pulp fiction reference on fury's tombstone
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Just got back.
Winter Soldier by Brubaker is my favourite run of Marvel comics ever, and this movie was such a freaking stellar adaptation. By far my favourite Marvel movie so far.
I DID NOT EXPECT ZOLA'S RETURN. HOLY FUCK. I had the biggest shit-eating grin on my face for his entire scene. Such a perfect and chilling set up for his future appearances...
Winter Soldier by Brubaker is my favourite run of Marvel comics ever, and this movie was such a freaking stellar adaptation. By far my favourite Marvel movie so far.
I DID NOT EXPECT ZOLA'S RETURN. HOLY FUCK. I had the biggest shit-eating grin on my face for his entire scene. Such a perfect and chilling set up for his future appearances...
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Coming off of Agents of SHIELD, I had the biggest "oh shit" grin on my face during that reveal.
Isn't he gone though? His whole consciousness was in that bunker and Pierce even said that Cap had "cost" him Zola.
chickdigger802
Banned
you know, its kinda weird that hydra still decided to keep that name around, so weird people are still hail hydraing around... takes some of the seriousness away lol. When hydra is already so in bed at the core of SHIELD... they are pretty much shield now... i guess they liek that name still?
btw: is there any info on capt's martial arts style? It's definitely way more flashy than anything US armed forces teaches you. I assume he has some free time... I see some judo, taekwando, karate.
btw: is there any info on capt's martial arts style? It's definitely way more flashy than anything US armed forces teaches you. I assume he has some free time... I see some judo, taekwando, karate.