Is that the same Mantis as this Mantis?
yep she went through some shit.
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier SPOILER THREAD | ...does anyone want to get out?
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yep she went through some shit.
I feel the same way with the other Iron Man movies not using Ramin Djawadi's score.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Please.
She was in Wolverine wasn't she?
Razgriz-Specter
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SHIELD's Phase 2 plans were just "Hydra" being Hydra I guess.
Yeah but does that really count?
surely if they can both use Quicksilver than Disney can use her. she is completely different within the context of Captain America and Hydra.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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She's somehow stuck with Fox and the X-Men:
Wait, wasn't she somebody called "Viper" in that movie?
Razgriz-Specter
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I actually loved The Wolverine but what a waste of the character.
Thats her secondary alias.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Viper and Madame Hydra are the same person
This is literally the first thing I thought. That senator this whole time. Damn....
If I didn't know otherwise, I would never have said they were the same character. If she gets played off as an anti-Black Widow working for Hydra, and only goes by the name "Madame Hydra", I can't see any real problems.
Discotheque
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Garry Shandling's hilarious. loved seeing him in here.
Razgriz-Specter
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I would hope so.
The one shot "The Consultant" could be seen in a different light too, although it is largely inconsequential.
Auron_Kale
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Both the opening and ending, particularly after Tony gets pinned with the medal. Hearing him say, "That's a nice pin you've got there" to Sitwell strangely reminded me of when he pins the medal onto Tony.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Aww. I didn't recall them using the name "Madame Hydra" at all in the film or around it. Maybe Marvel can work something out with Fox about this again down the line? How early did they work out the terms for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver?
Item 47 as well, actually. Like... holy shit.
(Hail hydra)
i think a lot of people did, but if you want to see something that makes you go wide-eyed at the idea of Sitwell being Hydra, that's the one to see.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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crimsonspider89
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Marvel can use Viper in her Madame Hydra persona where Fox can use her as Viper.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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I remember in The Avengers, Fury mentioned that "they" (I suppose meaning SHIELD in general at the time, was Fury a founding member in the films or somebody who came in later?) gathered everything related to Tesseract development when Rogers dropped the big Tesseract-er that he pulled from the Helicarrier storage. I guess now, looking back, we can read it as HYDRA covertly setting up shop again right under their noses.
Exotoro
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the avengers and the storing of hydra weapons?
CrichtonKicks
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Also from Iron Man 2, it seems like The Winter Soldier may have assassinated Howard Stark to stop him from his research on the new element.
Alcoremortis
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If that was the case, why didn't they assassinate Tony when he did the same thing?
George Oscar Bluth II
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Maybe they thought Tony was too much of a "slack off". That or the enemies over the series were their way of dealing with him.
Is A.I.M from IM3 apart of hydra some how?
Tony also did it in his own house without telling anyone. They wouldn't have known about it.
Alcoremortis
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Maybe they saw that Tony was trying to build a particle accelerator using random crap in his basement and were all "No way in hell is that going to work."
They were right, but luckily for Tony, the Universe didn't know this.
It was probably more about his energy research in general. If he had finished it then it would have been another hurdle to overcome, they couldn't kill Tony when he finished it because he finished it in like a day or two tops. There was no time to find out or plan anything. Plus he was being watched a lot more closely than Howard would have been.
This too :lol
Also wondering if obadiah was linked to it somehow.
Idk if then can recon it this much tho
A.I.M. and Hydra are separate, occasionally helping eachother, occasionally trying to kill eachother.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I don't think Blake being HYDRA.
Also, Garret told something about Sitwell never being in the line and never been shooted.
He honestly comes off as so dismissive that I'd be surprised if he was. I'd imagine that if he was Hydra, he's be a little bit more "ooooo, excellent move" or something at the idea of Sitwell recruiting that guy as a scientist. That's an asset Hydra wants.
PhoncipleBone
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George Oscar Bluth II
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Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Found it on the web. Should be all caps and a higher res image but eh.
I don't think it was that different, aside from the more modern tone and Winter Soldier theme. I'm glad they just kept the same theme song for Cap. Too often new composers will ignore a good theme song from the original. The First Avenger theme works real well for the character.
Oh, and...
PhoncipleBone
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It was in there. I just cant remember where it was played. But they do mention it in the credits.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Was I imagining things, or didn't it come up in the beginning scene where Steve is lapping Sam Wilson as they first meet?
On your left.
PhoncipleBone
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Ah, gotcha. Thank you.