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Captain America: The Winter Soldier SPOILER THREAD | ...does anyone want to get out?
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DonasaurusRex
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i was so mad that batman had ZERO gear for that fight , he turned off the lights and used a smoke bomb. He was all bats UP TO that fight then he really did try and punch his way outta that. Glad he got beat down. I liked how they were doing bats int he first 2 movies he was in and out , used gear didnt exert much effort for a single target. In 3 he was doing these slow ass combos bah just use some batarangs and concussion grenades, fuck bane. aintnobodygottimeforthat.
Nightshade
Member
Wrapped up a second viewing, still loving it. I feel like the specific meaning of the glow stick flash drive was never clearly explained. Any one care to answer a few questions?
-Was Zola's algorithm on the S.H.I.E.L.D ship?
-How did Bruce get back to Gotham?
-Did Fury actually hire the pirates to find out more about insight? Or was the bit about the street name set up to throw suspicion on Fury?
-What did the "A" on Captain America's forehead stand for? They never explain it.
-Was Zola's algorithm on the S.H.I.E.L.D ship?
-How did Bruce get back to Gotham?
-Did Fury actually hire the pirates to find out more about insight? Or was the bit about the street name set up to throw suspicion on Fury?
-What did the "A" on Captain America's forehead stand for? They never explain it.
Yes. The ship was a mobile satelite platform launcher.
He did. He knew the ship was dirty and needed an excuse to raid it and have Widow extract the info.
They don't really say, but you can bet your ass it doesn't stand for France.
GuitarAtomik
Member
-Zola's algorithm is how the ships were choosing their targets. They replaced that with the new algorithm that targeted the other ships.
-He hired Batroc and the pirates in order to give Widow a plausible reason to be on the ship and give her a chance to steal the data.
EDIT: Beaten lol
DAAAAAAAAAAMN THAT IS A SEXY STEELBOOK
And I love me some steel books.
Day fucking one.
In Days of Future Past apparently they elude to the Quicksilver possibility, if it gets cut or not we'll see.
In Avengers, rumours suggest that they may be the product of Hydra experimentation with Loki's staff. There is zero Magneto connection.
Shadow2222
Member
Haha thanks for the twenty answers about The Avengers/Avengers Assemble.
I do like that steelbook, but BW's pose still bothers me. It just seems so weird and unnatural.
I do like that steelbook, but BW's pose still bothers me. It just seems so weird and unnatural.
BigJonsson
Member
Didn't that briefcase set get delayed or have some sort of legal trouble?
Shadow2222
Member
Yeah, Disney accidentally went to manufacturing with the actual briefcase design for the movie. That would have been fine and dandy, but they didn't design it. Some really fancy company had been contracted to do it, and Disney didn't have the rights to mass produce it.
They had apparently already made a ton of them and had to dispose of them all, and manufacture all new ones. It got delayed by around 8 months or so.
I was happy waiting though. Amazon was awesome and shipped everyone who had it preordered a free Avengers bluray when that came out on Bluray, and I still got it at the lowest preorder price ($125), versus the $200+ you see it at now.
Winterfang
Banned
I love how this movie because really popular. A lot of fan art also. I adore this one
I wonder why it became such an overnight success?
I wonder why it became such an overnight success?
Must had being the script
Finally got to see it, caught up on the thread (mostly, fucking MC comparison LOL). Pretty damn satisfied with it, much better than I expected. Slightly disappointed at Zola's short appearance and agree that Cap was a bit too unhurt in a few scenes.
My major gripe plotwise is the damn chips just sitting under the carriers. Not impressed with that.
More generally, the level of AI in this universe is getting a bit silly. There is no point having people in the loop except to authorise action. Starks suits don't need a pilot, Furys car can drive itself, it's getting a bit ridiculous.
Other than that, solid as hell. Loved the fight choreography, even if the execution was a bit over the top some times regarding things like bodies damaging solid objects. Grillo did a much better job than I expected, looking forward to see what they do with the character.
My major gripe plotwise is the damn chips just sitting under the carriers. Not impressed with that.
More generally, the level of AI in this universe is getting a bit silly. There is no point having people in the loop except to authorise action. Starks suits don't need a pilot, Furys car can drive itself, it's getting a bit ridiculous.
Other than that, solid as hell. Loved the fight choreography, even if the execution was a bit over the top some times regarding things like bodies damaging solid objects. Grillo did a much better job than I expected, looking forward to see what they do with the character.
we ain't seen nothin yet.......
GuitarAtomik
Member
Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure this is on purpose. You should look up who the villain of Avengers 2 is lol.
Heh, I certainly hope so, I know who the A2 antagonist is, so they have an out, it's just getting to 'skynet in a car' levels at the moment.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yeah but I think that's the point. People talk like Iron Man 3 didn't have enough connection to the overall MCU plot but Tony making all his suits fully automated has huge repercussions which I'm sure will be explored in Age of Ultron.
And SHIELD's heavy reliance on AI is what bit them in the ass, considering Zola's involvement.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Yeah, I agree. I personally see it as short sighted and dangerous. I really hope that nothing happens to where this kind of AI starts acting on its own without authorization orders. That would be a disaster!
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
RuinerPrime
Member
I feel like you're foreshadowing something...but I can't quite put my finger on it
The only defense I got was that Bruce wasn't at 100% mental capacity. He just got back from a long hiatus so I'll let it slide on how sloppy and non-tactical he was in that fight. They captured Batman perfectly in Begins on how he swooped in and out to take out foes.
I had no idea they did an Avengers Assemble collection of Phase I. Damn it looks hot. Since I haven't bought any Phase I movies yet, I'm just gonna wait on that set now.
Also, #ded on sexy SHIELDS pics.
I bought that for my sister as a Christmas gift, it was around $160 and supposedly is very hard to find and is a collector's item. At least that's what the salesman told me. It's a pretty cool package though.
whoops...there was a whole other page...ignore this...
well...still keeping this image here:
Warrior Woman for Cap 3?
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Box Office Milestone: 'Captain America: Winter Soldier' Sails Past $600 Million Worldwide
It's going to surpass Iron Man 2 & Thor 2 soon.
It's going to surpass Iron Man 2 & Thor 2 soon.
Amazing what Avengers did for Cap.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Avengers helped but TWS is just that good of a movie.
Yeah, I don't think you can deny that The Avengers had some impact but this movie being much better than the first one has a lot to do with why it's performing the way it has.
Megalosaro
Banned
Captain America 1 was the best phase one movie, which isn't saying much because none of them were all that great.
I've really been enjoying Phase 2 though. Captain America 2 was fantastic. I absolutely adore it. Iron Man 3 was pretty fun, and I really liked Thor 2 as well (except the part where they go to the Elf world place).
I've really been enjoying Phase 2 though. Captain America 2 was fantastic. I absolutely adore it. Iron Man 3 was pretty fun, and I really liked Thor 2 as well (except the part where they go to the Elf world place).
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
IM3 is definitely the weakest out of Phase 2 so far, I really didnt like the "plot twist" and villain in that film
No way. The first half is great, but the second is complete and utter shit. Thor and Iron Man were better overall. Winter Soldier brought the goods though.
robotzombie
Member
Wait, is the first Iron Man not considered part of phase 1?
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Its kinda like a prologue.
It is. Phase 1 is Iron Man to Avengers.
I thought it was hilarious.
Cool. And Man of Steel soon after that.
It looks like it is already past every X-Men/Wolverine film WW and it looks like it should do the same on the domestic front. I don't see any others that it could pass after that though. It won't reach ASM's domestic or international numbers.
Saw it a couple days ago and enjoyed it - but I didn't love it. It was the same feeling that I had when I left Thor 2, although I do think Winter Soldier is a better film in just about every way.
Post-Avengers I've had a weird relationship with Marvel's movies. The Avengers felt like such a crescendo for the MCU that the final acts of Thor 2 and Cap 2 have felt redundant to me. It's like Kevin Fiege has a mandate that each solo film has to end with some sort of doomsday-scenario that likely won't ever be mentioned again once the credits roll - at least not until the next Avengers. To this movie's credit, something substantial actually did happen - the dismantling of Shield. If that didn't happen, I would have asked what the point of this film even was in the long run. That aside, I enjoyed Falcon's introduction a lot (and the brief Dr. Strange name drop).
I think part of it may just be that I'm getting a bit bored of the current MCU slate of characters and am ready for some more new faces. That's probably why I'm really looking forward to GotG and Ant-Man.
Post-Avengers I've had a weird relationship with Marvel's movies. The Avengers felt like such a crescendo for the MCU that the final acts of Thor 2 and Cap 2 have felt redundant to me. It's like Kevin Fiege has a mandate that each solo film has to end with some sort of doomsday-scenario that likely won't ever be mentioned again once the credits roll - at least not until the next Avengers. To this movie's credit, something substantial actually did happen - the dismantling of Shield. If that didn't happen, I would have asked what the point of this film even was in the long run. That aside, I enjoyed Falcon's introduction a lot (and the brief Dr. Strange name drop).
I think part of it may just be that I'm getting a bit bored of the current MCU slate of characters and am ready for some more new faces. That's probably why I'm really looking forward to GotG and Ant-Man.
Inferno313
Banned
Iron Man 3 isn't anything great, but it's far from the snoozefest that is Thor: The Dark World.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
To be fair, it's not like Thor sits around drinking and eating all day until The Avengers need him. If he didn't have doomsday scenarios that he's gotta deal with on his own, then he wouldn't be the hero he is.
Avengers was definitely a big deal for the MCU but it was just one alien army invading New York under Thanos' orders. The Marvel universe is simply massive and there are way more baddies out there that our guys have to deal with, so it's not like major threats should only be saved for the cross-over movies.
Malekith was underdeveloped so the final battle in Thor 2 didn't have quite the impact it should have, but the stakes were definitely high and I wouldn't call it redundant.
Phase 2 for me so far would definitely be TWS, TDW, IM3 but I didn't hate Iron Man 3 at all - just thought the hilarious plot twist with The Mandarin wasn't worth the loss of what could have been an interesting villain. Killian was such a shitty character to fall back on so the last act of the movie was a dud for me. Thor 2 also suffers from a similar issue, but Loki at least picks up the slack.
BronsonLee
Member
See what happens when you put Robert 'Goddamn' Redford in a Marvel movie?!
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IM3 was much, much better than Thor 2.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Honestly, I think I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite out of the Phase 2 movies so far. They all stepped their game up IMO and they're all occupying enough of a different genre niche that it's kind of apples to oranges for me. I expect that trend will continue with GotG.
But what do I know? The IM movies were my least favorite of Phase 1 minus Hulk.
But what do I know? The IM movies were my least favorite of Phase 1 minus Hulk.
Could you imagine if somehow such an AI found a way to transfer it's own consciousness into a physical body? What kind of ethos would such a being posses?
kunonabi
Member
and all will be right with the world.