Yeah, Warriors 3 are just background pieces in the movies. No casual moviegoer even knows who they are because they're so utterly unimportant. It's sooooo frustrating.
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier SPOILER THREAD | ...does anyone want to get out?
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Yeah, Warriors 3 are just background pieces in the movies. No casual moviegoer even knows who they are because they're so utterly unimportant. It's sooooo frustrating.
Yeah, I think their main mistake was setting too much of it on earth. More Asgardians is better.
What I didn't like is how they didn't explain how the Dark Elves can turn themselves into these berserker beasts. At first I thought they used the Aether to do it, but by the end of the movie I figured one had nothing to do with the other. It just wasn't clear for me.
Earthanoid
Member
They explain it briefly when
they stab the guy and stick the rock in his stomach. The rock gives them the powers but it eventually kills them (or something like that, don't remember it exactly now)
Yeah, but
what are the rocks? That's what confused me. At first I thought the rock was Aether, but then they were different rocks..
Yes. They eventually die after using the Kursed Stone
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kursed_Stone
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Kursed_Stone
If they at any point expounded upon the Kursed Stone in the movie, I must have missed it :/
They mention them, but don't really explain them.
Noisepurge
Member
it was still outright silly that he just decided at the end of the movie to "fix his heart" and remove the power source
It looked more like he was going to go the extremis suit route that they've been hinting at since avengers.
He also says his armor "was never a distraction or a hobby, but a cocoon." That's kinda the whole point of the movie... He's not just some "man in a can," and Iron Man isn't the suit. He's the Iron Man. He's the superhero. He doesn't have to be afraid of gods and aliens because he's the mechanic that can face whatever he's up against. Even when he meets the kid in the garage, the kid looks at the suit and says "Is that Iron Man?" And Tony replies "Technically, I am." Again... that's the point. To acknowledge who the real hero is.
So then, unless I'm totally wrong here, I'm willing to bet that he's done with going out and fighting, and isn't in the suit for a good chunk of the movie because what he can offer the Avengers and the world is his intelligence. So he makes Ultron, and very likely, he'll reluctantly suit up at the end to correct his mistake.
Marion Cobretti
Member
Something tells me Cap would've been able to pull over, simply pick the motorcycle up, and place it over the spikes.
All while being fired upon...?
I'm joking.
I like the attention to detail that after taking out that Quinjet you can see from the hero shot after the dismount that he's on the other side of that roadblock.
I have mixed feelings about Tony Stark with actual super powers.
Yeah, I don't think him going with Extremis really fits either. Calamari41 is right in that it seems very odd for Tony, as we left him in Iron Man 3, to have a Hulk Buster ready to go. He promised Pepper he wouldn't and seemed to be putting that aspect of his life behind him. He seemed retired from super heroing, directly. Now maybe Banner asked a personal favor or something, but the entire point of Iron Man 3 was him realizing his own worth and moving past his addiction to Iron Man as a crutch.
That's why he wears the shield on his back.
I still think Extremis is going to happen. It's the only point of them injecting it into the MCU during a iron man movie no less. Plus you have the bracelet in avengers that summons the armor to him and all the other little things like the triangle arc reactor that all take from it.
Tony ain't making Ultron. It's pretty obvious that the Project Insight tracking algorithm will become Ultron (a program that detects threats from people who ultimately comes to the conclusion that all of humanity is a threat ain't much of a stretch). I can see Tony using JARVIS to take over his Iron Man role to become Vision and Ultron using one of Tony's suits as his body.
In other news EW is predicting that Cap 2 will be #1 for the fourth straight week. $700 million anyone?
MutonCommander
Banned
Let's hope so, the movie is great and it deserves all the success it can get.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Honestly after thinking about it more, I could easily see the events of The Winter Soldier jolting him back into action. Especially since he's already chilling at Avengers Tower working away. Maybe he realizes after the shit with SHIELD and HYDRA went down that he would have been unable to go help in the event that he actually had time to or was called up to. So maybe he decides that even though he doesn't need the suits to feel complete as a person, he should probably have one or two around if someone needs help. Especially since SHIELD, the organization that was taking the lead on that kind of thing, is now gone/replaced by HYDRA.
Man, Cap has had a charmed run. 4 essentially uncontested weeks. Were other studios afraid of releasing other films in Marvel's path or did they just get lucky?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I love this about it, it looks like the Cap movies will have the most cohesive arc from the first to third film if they keep it up and follow the rest of the Winter Soldier arc for movie 3.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Can Cap crawl to 800 million, like I wanted?
Calamari41
41 > 38
I think it's a bit of both, and of course really good word of mouth, plus the fact that I believe Winter Soldier was the first "tentpole" summer action blockbuster released this early in the year. It was a bit of an experiment, and it worked.
That makes a lot of sense.
The sad thing is it will not beat The Amazing Spider-Man. Bleh!
Interesting theory, especially if you have seen Cap's new costume for Avengers 2.
Jest Chillin
Member
I think the reception to the first movie and his previous characterization has been a bigger roadblock than ASM2 will be. It seems like once people saw Cap 2, quite a few enjoyed it enough to see it multiple times. The problem is getting people to actually believe the hype it's been getting in the first place.
I really wish that would keep annoying-ass Kat Dennings and that crew out of the movie completely. They aren't funny and just grind everything to a halt when they show up.
Tatersalad
Member
Makes you curious for how Cap 3 will do, since this movie proved that the Captain can carry a stand-alone movie no problem.
Jest Chillin
Member
Yup. It will also depend on how he's characterized in Avengers 2 as well. If he reverts back to an Avengers 1 style of Cap whose fighting is less exceptional and personality is still very much naive boy scout, that could have a negative effect.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Cap 3 is doing a billion.
Book that shit.
Book that shit.
I know he was. He also brought up the Earth-bound characters, which is why I talked about Kat Dennings N Friends.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I see this happening; The Hulkbuster suit vs. Hulk, epic battle. We see Tony's face, hear his voice. Then the suit gets crushed to shit by Hulk. Like it blows up, it gets compacted etc.
DRAMA. TONY'S DEAD.
Zooms out, Tony takes off AI control headset. Dat artificial drama.
DRAMA. TONY'S DEAD.
Zooms out, Tony takes off AI control headset. Dat artificial drama.
They already pulled that stunt in IM3.
Glass Rebel
Member
Same trick he used in IM3 on Pepper? nah
Calamari41
41 > 38
Interesting seeing the Avengers logo on the suit. Does this mean that The Avengers are now a Stark-financed and organized team?
Glass Rebel
Member
Avengers hinted pretty heavily at it when the Stark tower was only left with the signature A.