DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Do you got the panel for this?
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Carol Danvers Will Have a New Origin for the Captain Marvel Movie
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Do you got the panel for this?
Pilgrimzero
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Saving Monica for the Nextwave movie
ugh, it's a thing
I wish we didn't have to go into it every time there was a Carol Danvers thread, but the sad state of things is that it's her most well-known story, because she was just an also-ran character for most of her existence.
LordOfLore
Banned
So, without Mar-Vell the chance for one of Marvel's few lesbian superheroes(they still own the movie rights to)to show up just shrunk.
Knew Feige's "We might have a LGBT hero in a decade" statement meant Phyla and Moondragon wouldn't show up in gotg 3/4.
Knew Feige's "We might have a LGBT hero in a decade" statement meant Phyla and Moondragon wouldn't show up in gotg 3/4.
BronsonLee
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I warned you all about those stuoid comic books
Carol hasn't really had any defining stories and the ones she did are being ignored like the birth thing for obvious reasons or her alcoholism.
In the comics at least Star-Lord is getting a new costume that's a combination of that and the current one.
Well hey-
she gets pregnant with her RAPIST
Full term and everything
This should be BURNED
The worst part was how the other Avengers reacted to all of that.
LordOfLore
Banned
Chris Claremont pretty much screamed at the writers and editors+Marvel in a X-Men issue later when he grabbed Carol for the X-Men as a supporting character. He was also the only reason Carol later found out her best friend/ex was dead after Mar-Vell died since the rest of Marvel forgot she existed and didn't have her show up.
Does someone want to post the "Iron Man sees Carol drinking on the job" and "Drunk Carol smashes the mansion and almost kills Iron Man" pages?
Vermillion
Banned
Her most well-known story is where she gets bodied by Rogue. Greatest comic achievement, too.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Probably the best way to go.
You go right ahead. I want to see this.
King Gilga
Member
I've only read one ms marvel comic.
The one where she flying a plane and accidentally goes back in time when it stalls.
It wasn't that bad.
The one where she flying a plane and accidentally goes back in time when it stalls.
It wasn't that bad.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Good her origin is a jumbled mess at this point and was never interesting in the first place. Just have her meet a Kree named Mar-vell and take it from there.
LordOfLore
Banned
So Tony took her side after all that, right? Hahahaha, what a mess. She totally Juggernaut, Bitch'd that building.
LordOfLore
Banned
She's one of the few Avengers that actually was "fired" from the Avengers.
almost like most of the hate levied against her is overblown
Her entire history reads like every once in a while they decided to just throw the dumbest shit imaginable at her.
I don't know, her falling in love with the rapist that she gave birth to and leaving to live with him happily ever after to has to be pretty high up there as well, just for how unbelievably insulting it is.
TheDarkKnight774
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But Busieks use of her is not one of them
Vermillion
Banned
It wasn't. But it ended up kind of boring.
Marvel pushing a white, blonde, super-strong female Avenger whose rights aren't tied up with the X-Men / Fantastic Four in 2016 is "perplexing"?
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Right. They had to start somewhere. She seems like a safe bet imo, all things considered.
echoshifting
Banned
If they're going to do that, they first need to address the fact that they've been portraying Tony Stark as a high-functioning alcoholic for eight years.
Any person with Tony's drinking habits would be in a deep, dark hole after the events of Civil War. Now is the perfect time, really.
edited my post to make it an even bigger no-brainer
you can pull a slayven all day and call her boring, but she is the perfect pick for a diverse MCU reboot.
I think same reason why DC hellbent on pushing Cyborg? Diversity.
I like Carol Danvers though.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Have you not realized how little that matters? The Guardians were reworked for film and look how popular they are now?
Carol is the character that Marvel has failed to reboot countless times at this point. Putting a filmmaker's perspective on the character is the next logical step.
Mighty Chin
Banned
I think I must be one of the few that like Captain Marvel.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Nah, I'm there with you as well. Oh wait, I guess that still makes us a few anyway.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
I can't remember, but I think Tony was sober up until he was inverted at least.
echoshifting
Banned
Oh I thought we were talking about the MCU characters, not 616. My bad.
I was just saying they can't do the alcoholism story with Carol in the movies while Tony gets away with whatever for a decade
MCU isn't going to call him an alcoholic and IM2 is as close as we're going to get.
echoshifting
Banned
We'll see. I'm hoping to be surprised over the course of the next two Avengers movies. I expect the top of Infinity War to find Tony in a very dark place.
It could happen.
I think this is the same board where we advocated Jessica Jones and Peter in the MCU.
Silent Chief
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First she turned into a kree warrior a bit like how Rick Jones turned into Mar-vell.
Then she just go superpowered with a 6th sense. Then she became an Avenger reservist and quickly got raped into retirement. Then Rogue stole her powers when she was in hiding and she became an X-Men support character who eventually turned into Binary. Then she rejoins the Avengers as Warbird, but is forced to resign because she's an alcoholic. That pretty much covers her first 40 years.
Your only character flaw
yeah let's just throw this whole thing out the window. kill her character off after Civil War II and pull a new one from a Secret Wars reality schism. she'll look and act exactly like Brie Larson's Carol.
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