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Catherine |OT| Sheep, Matrimony, Terror - Love Is Gone
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TheChillyAcademic
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So having played the demo in English and Japanese about 32048992 times I can say I love the aesthetic and the story (insofar as the demo shows) but the puzzles are...trying to say the least. Love me some Team Persona but is this one just a bit too out there? Opinions?
robotzombie
Member
Were you able to get up from your seat the first night? Before you meet Catherine? Wondering if I missed something
No it's not out there. Buy it. You won't be disappointed.TheChillyAcademic said:
Also holy shit at the Level (mid to late game)
6 part 3, before the boss. That shit is tough and i'm trying to figure out how to maneuver around what I would call the third main section of it, which is a huge 9x9 with a ton of spikes and a bomb in the middle. I've died 23 times so far and I just keep getting stuck.
SteveWinwood
Member
Anyone?SteveWinwood said:
Man, I bought this today afternoon and a friend and I played this non-stop all day. We stopped at about night 5 I think. The one where the
blocks show up.
We found the puzzles a bit challenging at first, but once you figure out the pattern, you get into a rhythm and the puzzle become easy. We've spent 5-20 pillows on just figuring the flow of a level out. Once we get the hang of it, we skip to the main menu, load up the save, and blast through the level unscathed. Its cheap I know, but I'm saving my retries for the end game.
And for anyone who's having trouble, I've got one semi-obvious tip
That stuff helped us out a lot. Especially the 'Cutout' and 'Cut across'.
(Not a spoiler if you've gone past the first nightmare level)
ice
We found the puzzles a bit challenging at first, but once you figure out the pattern, you get into a rhythm and the puzzle become easy. We've spent 5-20 pillows on just figuring the flow of a level out. Once we get the hang of it, we skip to the main menu, load up the save, and blast through the level unscathed. Its cheap I know, but I'm saving my retries for the end game.
And for anyone who's having trouble, I've got one semi-obvious tip
before each level, listen to the sheep with glasses and the regal hair sheep for techniques. They actually hint at the techniques you will be using in the next level.
(Not a spoiler if you've gone past the first nightmare level)
Amory
Member
Man this game gets frustratingly hard even on easy difficulty. I'm on the 5th night and the boss stage is really starting to piss me off...
I'm really glad I went with my instincts on this one and chose easy mode or I'd never finish.
Edit: Holy shit I just ran through the whole stage in like 30 seconds basically without pausing.. shit just clicked!
I'm really glad I went with my instincts on this one and chose easy mode or I'd never finish.
Edit: Holy shit I just ran through the whole stage in like 30 seconds basically without pausing.. shit just clicked!
I got game earlier today and have played a total of 4 hours, give or take. Currently i am on stage 4-1. This game really clicks with me! The story is very funny, and being married, i can sort of relate to Vincent's situation. My "chick" meter so far has been going back and forth from the middle up to about 10% of team BLUE. I can definitely say that i am enjoying this game.
The only thing that irks me a little would be the puzzle's. Specifically, the mechanics seem kind of wonky and a little unresponsive at times, leading to a few cheap deaths. The "escape from some huge freaky shit" themed puzzle is a really interesting idea, i wish they could have expanded on it though. I also kind of wish that there was a bit more exploration, like coming and going to the bar and or meeting your girl(s) at the cafe. The area inside the bar looks really nice.
I have never played a Persona game before, but seeing what this game looks like really makes me want to see what they could pull off with an RPG. The art style is just amazing.
To finish of my impression, a funny thing occurred when i played this game today. Though i did find Heavy Rain somewhat enjoyable, i feel that Catherine executed what Heavy Rain was trying to achieve much better. It actually feels like i am playing a game lol.
EDIT: Oh... Another thing i hate is that the FMV audio volume is a lot louder than the in game volume, i find my self constantly changing the volume when the FMV kicks in. -_-
The only thing that irks me a little would be the puzzle's. Specifically, the mechanics seem kind of wonky and a little unresponsive at times, leading to a few cheap deaths. The "escape from some huge freaky shit" themed puzzle is a really interesting idea, i wish they could have expanded on it though. I also kind of wish that there was a bit more exploration, like coming and going to the bar and or meeting your girl(s) at the cafe. The area inside the bar looks really nice.
I have never played a Persona game before, but seeing what this game looks like really makes me want to see what they could pull off with an RPG. The art style is just amazing.
To finish of my impression, a funny thing occurred when i played this game today. Though i did find Heavy Rain somewhat enjoyable, i feel that Catherine executed what Heavy Rain was trying to achieve much better. It actually feels like i am playing a game lol.
EDIT: Oh... Another thing i hate is that the FMV audio volume is a lot louder than the in game volume, i find my self constantly changing the volume when the FMV kicks in. -_-
FateBreaker
Member
I tried for 30 mins to get past the first stage on Hard. I was really close, but I never made it. Meanwhile,Easy and Normal mode were a BREEZE after that. I'm sure it'll get way more difficult, but it's striking how much harder Hard mode actually is.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
"How does a life of no responsibility sound?"
The fact that more than 75% of people said "No way" is proof that 75% of people playing this game are lying, and not answering honestly. Most answers should be split, as we're all different, but no one LIKES responsibility.
"Gee golly, I love having so much to take care of that I can't live my own life."
The fact that more than 75% of people said "No way" is proof that 75% of people playing this game are lying, and not answering honestly. Most answers should be split, as we're all different, but no one LIKES responsibility.
"Gee golly, I love having so much to take care of that I can't live my own life."
Dedication Through Light
Member
I wish there was more direction on what to do in the bar and if songs would unlock fast. I want my Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 musics.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
They're not "good" and "bad". They're order and chaos. The fact that people still call it "good" and "evil" are not giving the moral ambiguity of the story enough credit.SteveWinwood said:
Master Milk
Member
Been playing all day. Made it to the last stage, finally. I can't go on anymore. After about 20 minutes off dying repeatedly, I'm done for the day, probably.
SteveWinwood
Member
Psh. Whatevs. Thats why I put them in quotations and initially called them blue and red. But I'm just trying to gauge what I'm missing out on some of these cutscenes before I play it again.thetrin said:
WickedLaharl
Member
Andrefpvs said:
it's really really annoying. how did this pass QA?
game is great BTW.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
My friend and I recorded a video of Catherine today. It's pretty spoiler free, and shows off about the first 20 minutes of the game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgpDb2LTrW8
SteveWinwood
Member
Maybe people are just being truthful and you guys are misunderstanding the human race! I know plenty of people who think that... None of them are playing this game because they wouldn't even touch something with this sort of cover...... Yeah all the people who answered are dirty liars.
Master Milk
Member
While it's probably true that a lot of people are going through the game with a certain method and not answering honestly, there's no way that no one likes responsibility. In fact, more often than not, people do like responsibility because it gives them something to live for and a clear purpose. Everyone doesn't want to be a lazy bum their entire life.thetrin said:
Hours Left
Member
So, I'm at the 4th night and I'm really enjoying the game. The puzzles are challenging but satisfying to complete and the adventure portions of the game are really fun.
One question though, is it possible to completely talk to everyone at the bar, every night? I don't want to miss any conversations, but it seems like it might not be possible as the game progresses.
One question though, is it possible to completely talk to everyone at the bar, every night? I don't want to miss any conversations, but it seems like it might not be possible as the game progresses.
Bel Marduk
Banned
TheExodu5 said:
...In the most extreme cases. Or if you're just a recluse.
WickedLaharl
Member
i'm on 6-3 and have to be in bed in about 3 hours. will i have enough time to beat it tonight?
Gucci Messiah
Banned
I hate not being to save anywhere, I'm stuck on stage 6 and want to quit playing. Should've saved my progress at the bar...
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Hell no. I'm at 7-2 and I've been at it for a while.WickedLaharl said:
â Narayan
Member
6-4 now. Here I go!
Kusagari said:
I actually assumed it was more that people thought saying
that life ends at marriage
Or it might be they're lying.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Finally beat 6-1. How many continues do you guys have stocked up? If you run out do you really have to start the game over from the beginning?
â Narayan
Member
I have 45 mystic pillows. If you run out, you just start from your last save.MCXC Pioneer said:
Gucci Messiah
Banned
That's a relief. I've got around 45 too but just lost 15-20 trying to beat the last level.
Another thing that has frustrated me with Catherine is the controls. I feel like half my deaths are due to the fact that I have to fight with them.
I do have to mention that I have a great wife. She came home from work to the game on the start screen while I was on the computer. She picked up the case and was like "Oh, it's an anime game?" Then she saw the video that plays on the menu screen and she was like "A sexy anime game?" And she proceeded to read through the art book and game manual and was like "This game seems awesome." And, she was watching some of the scenes and things with me.
See, marriage ain't all bad!
See, marriage ain't all bad!
Master Milk
Member
HahahahahahahahaWickedLaharl said:
I think I've had 43 at one point, but it's gone all the way down to 6 during one of the boss fights. And then it went up again. If you were to actually run out of continues, even though that's probably impossible, but if such a thing were to happen, you could always just start from your most recent save file. There's no reason to start from the beginning unless you want to start from the beginning.MCXC Pioneer said:
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
I also doubt 'could you show everything in your phone inbox to your lover?' is 2/3rds I don't think so, at least I don't know anyone who'd have that as their truthful answer.thetrin said:
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
On 7-2 and like 3 blocks under the checkpoint.... Been at it for over an hour now. @___@
I think I'll take a break....
I think I'll take a break....
Knuckleruckamus
Neo Member
Dear lord.
Playing on easy and just reached 7-3 which is stumping me. Seriously glad I switched difficulties because I find the controls a little gummy and unresponsive at times and as I posted earlier, the reversed controls for when you're on the back of a stage really blow. Nothing less intuitive than being able to keep pressing left and watching Vincent spider endlessly from side to side.
Not sure if going to the back of the stage is required, but I found it to be for at least
. If so, really really awful considering the confusing controls and inability to actually see what you're doing thanks to the camera.
In general, I find myself a bit torn on the game. Love the atmosphere, love the story, presentation is top notch and the puzzle concept is quite good too. However the constant introduction of new blocks, hazards and required techniques goes beyond even a steep learning curve. I understand, and appreciate, that elements such as the technique swapping and Rapunzel are supposed to help build your skill, but they feel kind of shoehorned in. And by not providing a sensible progression, you lose the "i'm a genius!" moments that you had in a game like Portal.
All that being said.. despite the game's flaws, I find myself drawn towards it for the desire to conquer the puzzles and unveil more of the story, so clearly Atlus did something very very right.
P.S. Really wish the songs were longer and that the church bells rang a little less often. It's all headache inducing when you're trying to figure out the last leg of a stage.
Playing on easy and just reached 7-3 which is stumping me. Seriously glad I switched difficulties because I find the controls a little gummy and unresponsive at times and as I posted earlier, the reversed controls for when you're on the back of a stage really blow. Nothing less intuitive than being able to keep pressing left and watching Vincent spider endlessly from side to side.
Not sure if going to the back of the stage is required, but I found it to be for at least
7-2 and it's looking like that for 7-3, too
In general, I find myself a bit torn on the game. Love the atmosphere, love the story, presentation is top notch and the puzzle concept is quite good too. However the constant introduction of new blocks, hazards and required techniques goes beyond even a steep learning curve. I understand, and appreciate, that elements such as the technique swapping and Rapunzel are supposed to help build your skill, but they feel kind of shoehorned in. And by not providing a sensible progression, you lose the "i'm a genius!" moments that you had in a game like Portal.
All that being said.. despite the game's flaws, I find myself drawn towards it for the desire to conquer the puzzles and unveil more of the story, so clearly Atlus did something very very right.
P.S. Really wish the songs were longer and that the church bells rang a little less often. It's all headache inducing when you're trying to figure out the last leg of a stage.
cj_iwakura
Member
Dedication Through Light said:
Trophies. Persona 3 tracks are namely unlocked by getting Golds on the Normal stages(meaning unlocking Babel stages) and clearing them.
I got Mass Destruction and P3P music by unlocking and clearing the first two Babel stages.
cj_iwakura
Member
Volcynika said:
If they highlight it, their loss.
Major character spoilers.
The cast listing says
ERIC Anderson.
Knuckleruckamus said:
I'll have to agree with all this. I love the game, and almost everything about it, but I think it really could have used a much better learning curve. I don't expect Portal levels of amazing learning curve, but still, what they have just doesn't work. For one, the technique learning thing doesn't really work that well because you're just watching a video. Translating watching a video to trying to do it on the fly while being rushed from either the level dropping out from under you or a boss is pretty hard. Maybe they should have had you playing those pieces, just to really cement it in your brain. I'm not sure that would have been quite enough, but it'd be a start.
â Narayan
Member
Heh. 6-4 was A LOT easier than I thought it would be.
meltingparappa
Member
12 glorious hours on easy and the game was incredible. I got an ending in the lawful spectrum, but I don't think it was the
ending based on some descriptions I've read. I'll have to double check my trophy list.
I love the characters in the game. Jonny should have his own spinoff, where goes around looking haunted but awesome with his baritone voice.
Forgive me if it's already buried in this thread and generally TOO SOON, but is there a list of descriptions of the other endings? Probably too soon for english youtube versions, I'd imagine.
"true lovers"
I love the characters in the game. Jonny should have his own spinoff, where goes around looking haunted but awesome with his baritone voice.
Forgive me if it's already buried in this thread and generally TOO SOON, but is there a list of descriptions of the other endings? Probably too soon for english youtube versions, I'd imagine.
cj_iwakura
Member
meltingparappa said:
I'll list them, spoiler free.
Lover - Bad/Good/True
Affair - Bad/Good/True
Freedom - Bad/True
Affair - Bad/Good/True
Freedom - Bad/True
Also, I didn't like him at first, but the new announcer(title screen,drink info, questioning, etc.) has really grown on me.
I'm officially changing the difficulty to easy next time I play. It's not to hard but it takes me about 3 or 4 tries to finish day three puzzles and I just wanna see the story the first time thru.. I do enjoy the puzzles and them making me think and use strategy instead of randomly pulling blocks.
MichaelEM3
Banned
Just beat it on Easy after 14 hours. My ending:
Which is exactly the ending I wanted for my first playthrough! And yeah, I actually got that ending after answering truthfully to every question, too! 
Really loved the game. Loved the story, the characters, the gameplay (on Easy, at least), the adventure game aspects, and unsurprisingly, I loved the dub. Once again, Atlus USA hit it out of the park. Great job, guys! Looking forward to hunting down the other endings and rage quitting Normal and Hard, haha.
True Lovers ending with Vincent and Katherine happily married.
Really loved the game. Loved the story, the characters, the gameplay (on Easy, at least), the adventure game aspects, and unsurprisingly, I loved the dub. Once again, Atlus USA hit it out of the park. Great job, guys! Looking forward to hunting down the other endings and rage quitting Normal and Hard, haha.
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