cj_iwakura
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Octorockin' said:
As awesome as
Boss' voice is, I can't be mad. He hams it up and loves it.
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Catherine |OT| Sheep, Matrimony, Terror - Love Is Gone
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As awesome as
iconoclast
Member
Obelisk is soooooo awful. That stage is 80% luck, 20% skill. So much randomness.
Nora Kisaragi
Banned
cj_iwakura said:
Atlus says on Amazon it takes place in Tokyo, I -think- what is official PR is considered canon over something one employee said on a message board.
Besides, I have yet to see this post you're talking about.
demosthenes
Member
Just finished, got true Katherine.
What a freaking awesome game.
And Toby :lol
What a freaking awesome game.
And Toby :lol
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I've been giving this some thought now that I'm done with the game - what do people think about Erica?
I dunno, maybe no one cared about the character but it was just stuck in my mind after all was said and done.
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The way they handled her seemed strange to me, because in this world's morality, any post-op transgendered people are necessarily "evil" for trying to hold back the human race because they can't procreate via traditional means.
I mean, I appreciate the inclusion of the character in the first place (even though it's another one of those twists that seems very anime - it's almost an evolution of a Persona 4 character in a way), so I shouldn't complain too much, especially when TG characters are usually a joke in video games, but the morality imposed on Erica seemed very heteronormative.
I mean, I appreciate the inclusion of the character in the first place (even though it's another one of those twists that seems very anime - it's almost an evolution of a Persona 4 character in a way), so I shouldn't complain too much, especially when TG characters are usually a joke in video games, but the morality imposed on Erica seemed very heteronormative.
I dunno, maybe no one cared about the character but it was just stuck in my mind after all was said and done.
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There are enough cultural elements that make it ambiguous anyway. The kotatsu in Vincent's room being one of them.radiantdreamer said:Didn't Atlus themselves say this game takes place in fictional America? It was one of their major excuses for not having dual audio. Doesn't that make it more "official"?
Maybe the American version "officially" takes place in America, and the Japanese version takes place in Japan.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, that's true at least. I kind of wonder what the character's position would have been onErigu said:
say, gay characters
firehawk12 said:
Mutton is the villain. Vincent rebels against his ideology, and forces him to cease giving people nightmares. The game creates a sort of spectrum, and uses a sort of ill-advised "angel/devil" to signify the Order and Chaos ends, but when it comes to the morality pushed by "the game", it's that people should be free to make that decision for themselves, as long as they're taking some sort of action to better themselves instead of wallowing in misery and self-pity.
Given how Erica is treated in the game, I don't think they have anything against her lifestyle. Maybe Mutton would have previously seen her as evil (she eventually got nightmares, after all), but that's certainly not where things end up ultimately.
Given how Erica is treated in the game, I don't think they have anything against her lifestyle. Maybe Mutton would have previously seen her as evil (she eventually got nightmares, after all), but that's certainly not where things end up ultimately.
So I thought Erica was handled really well. I like her a lot in the game.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
sonicmj1 said:
I think
Mutton ultimately being "wrong" doesn't absolve the what is imposed on her though. I mean, is there any condition in which she could have a relationship but not have the nightmares?
I agree with what you guys are saying broadly though. Maybe I'm just picking nits at this point. :lol:
Conciliator
Banned
6-3 is fucking bonkers hard. I can't do it! I'm on normal difficulty. I told myself I wouldn't use the internet, but I am now soliciting hints. It doesn't count if it's not a FAQ. SHUT UP, IT DOESN'T.
firehawk12 said:
I would guess it would have to be a guy who never wants to have kids or can't have kids for whatever reason. Or maybe it's just because she was never upfront about her "situation." Regardless she could be keeping Toby from starting a relationship with a woman he can have children with. They don't go into that much detail though so it's all just speculation.
StunandStab
Member
All golds on hard up to stage 5 now. I'm moving up!
EDIT: Am I the only one who has a really difficult time whenever making blocks fall is required?
EDIT: Am I the only one who has a really difficult time whenever making blocks fall is required?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I dunno,Psi said:
it's a very normative interpretation of who can start a family and what a family can be.
Certainly it makes me wonder if in Japan procedures such asIVF, surrogate mothers or even adoption
Certainly it makes me wonder if in Japan procedures such asIVF, surrogate mothers or even adoption
Well, I just beat it. The only level that I didn't enjoy was the one I made a post bitching about above. Great game overall.
The ending I got (spoilers obviously)
The ending I got (spoilers obviously)
Katherine came to hear the truth, but wanted to break up anyway. She said Vincent's face was looking for excitement. Then Vincent's friends came by and he fell asleep on the table. I did answer a few questions that way I suppose, I was a bit conflicted between the peace/chaos questions. I got the 'Bad Lover' ending trophy.
Are there a bunch of different endings... or just two? edit: counting the available trophies, it looks like 8 total. Hm. I'm pretty curious as to what they are. I don't think I'll replay immediately, but there's definitely some reason to play again.
Are there a bunch of different endings... or just two? edit: counting the available trophies, it looks like 8 total. Hm. I'm pretty curious as to what they are. I don't think I'll replay immediately, but there's definitely some reason to play again.
The more I play this the more I dislike it. Very disappointing.
+ Texting idea is great and implemented perfectly.
+ Puzzles dynamics are well-constructed.
+ Story has some nice concepts/ingredients.
- Time limits + overly-sensitive controls = poor design.
- The dialogue.
- Scenes go on forever.
- Simplistic characters.
- Too repetitive.
Probably would go 5/10 at this point. (Just finished 6-levels).
+ Texting idea is great and implemented perfectly.
+ Puzzles dynamics are well-constructed.
+ Story has some nice concepts/ingredients.
- Time limits + overly-sensitive controls = poor design.
- The dialogue.
- Scenes go on forever.
- Simplistic characters.
- Too repetitive.
Probably would go 5/10 at this point. (Just finished 6-levels).
nismogrendel
Member
Despera said:
That was great, do they need these people to sign consent forms afterwards or do these people never know it's a gag?
Chrono Helix
Member
Despera said:
That last girl who turned him down is hot.
First playthrough done at around 17 hours on Normal. Spent some time in the bar, didn't play the arcade game at all. Answered honestly and got
Will be playing for more endings.
I was having problems with the puzzles but than Inazuma just clicked. As soon as you got that down, the game is cake. I started Golding everything from that point on.
Katherine True ending, makes sense since I got married myself 2 months ago.
I was having problems with the puzzles but than Inazuma just clicked. As soon as you got that down, the game is cake. I started Golding everything from that point on.
plasticpassion
Member
I'm contemplating buying this game based on the demo. It obviously has very fresh ideas and I love the mature theme of it. I enjoyed the puzzle aspect of it (
), however I can see how that would get very quickly repetitive. Perhaps when this drops in price I'll pick it up?
especially when Katherine chases you in the 2nd level
demosthenes
Member
Haha, not the lastciaossu said:
firehawk12
Subete no aware
ciaossu said:
There are
8 endings. It sounds like you were on the Chaos side of the spectrum, so if you redo chapter 9, you could get one of the Catherine endings if you choose differently
the chris said:
In a game about two girls you have to decide over with 8 different endings, is it really a spoiler that some of the endings have to do with one girl and some with the other? Are people that thick?
If it's such a big deal, than you probably shouldn't have quoted it. Now it's here twice, oh noes!
BlazingDarkness
Member
Just got my copy in the post
My body is ready!
My body is ready!
â Narayan
Member
Someplace inErigu said:
space
Sure, but my point would be that
it looks like Vincent is leaving that "somewhere in space", in that scene. He's looking at a departing ship, and turns his back on the city. That's not what one would expect from a cutscene depicting his arrival.
Add to that that earlier cutscene with a billboard predicting the exact second the rain will stop, in a few hours, and it seems likely to me that the city we see in that Freedom ending was the setting for the entire game. They were in space already.
Add to that that earlier cutscene with a billboard predicting the exact second the rain will stop, in a few hours, and it seems likely to me that the city we see in that Freedom ending was the setting for the entire game. They were in space already.
â Narayan
Member
The bolded is what I was trying to imply. Guess I should have said more. After watching that ending, I definitely feel the same way.Erigu said:
Just finished the game and got the ending where
Not sure which ending that is.
Took about 10-12 hours for me on Normal, though I don't think I golded anything. I'm not sure how the ranking system works anymore, because sometimes I would make it all the way to the top without dying, get most of the coins along the way, and then still end up with bronze. Am I supposed to get ALL the coins?
Quite satisfied with the game, though I admit to ruthlessly mashing the Undo button to buy myself more time to think/dodge untimely boss attacks. It's an exploit on the player's side, but I got so frustrated with some of the bosses that I quickly lost any guilt I felt when using it.
Katherine gets back together with Vince and they later get married in the Stray Sheep.
Took about 10-12 hours for me on Normal, though I don't think I golded anything. I'm not sure how the ranking system works anymore, because sometimes I would make it all the way to the top without dying, get most of the coins along the way, and then still end up with bronze. Am I supposed to get ALL the coins?
Quite satisfied with the game, though I admit to ruthlessly mashing the Undo button to buy myself more time to think/dodge untimely boss attacks. It's an exploit on the player's side, but I got so frustrated with some of the bosses that I quickly lost any guilt I felt when using it.
BlazingDarkness
Member
PIX NAO PLZ
I couldn't help myself
I couldn't help myself
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's score based - you can look on the wikia to see what score you need to get which medal. But collecting gold and not letting your combo meter fall to zero is probably the key to getting gold.Akuun said:
But wait,Erigu said:
didn't they say it space travel was relatively new? They were talking about "pre-ordering" flights I think.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Half way through Night 5, awesome game so far
Replaying the game for a second time. Doing all the puzzles first, though, before the story. That way, I could breeze through the story quick and get all the endings / save everyone. I'm aiming to get all the trophies.
So far, I've completed Stages 1-5 with Gold on Hard. 6-9 await. Oh, the hours.
So far, I've completed Stages 1-5 with Gold on Hard. 6-9 await. Oh, the hours.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Okay so I can't stand it anymore. I'll never buy from VG+ again (7+ days and still no Catherine). So I decided to borrow it from a friend and I'm gonna play it asap
Wish me good luck! Been hyping this game since it was announced... LET'S GO! (Easy or normal, btw?)
Wish me good luck! Been hyping this game since it was announced... LET'S GO! (Easy or normal, btw?)
Okay, so just made it past night 4, and it seems I can't get anything other than Silver. How much faster am I supposed to go? I mean, going as fast as I am already strains my creative intuitivity so am I supposed to go even faster?
Crazy. I want some gold though; oh, and Katherine still looks like Number 1 to me. Also, Sara got back.
Crazy. I want some gold though; oh, and Katherine still looks like Number 1 to me. Also, Sara got back.
Conciliator
Banned
I'm done playing this. I made myself absolutely miserable finishing 6-3. 6-4 is a lot easier, but I got to literally the last block and was killed, so I had to go back the checkpoint from 48 days earlier, and it became apparent that it is time to put an end to Catherine's abuse. It's cool that it's hard, but it's also clear that Atlus does not believe that my time is valuable, so they make me repeat huge lengths of sections over and over so that I can flail around on one mind-boggling spot again. Tedious is not the same as difficult.
I like the game pretty well otherwise. Back to Gamefly!
I like the game pretty well otherwise. Back to Gamefly!
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