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[ULTROS!]

To get the overall gold trophy, do I need to gold all the substages before the final stage?

 

[Erigu]

same thing me thinks. i don't think the localization actually altered the original source.

Maybe they're simply mistaken?

 

[StunandStab]

To get the overall gold trophy, do I need to gold all the substages before the final stage?

Nope. Only the final stage matters. Of course, getting gold will be more difficult in the final stage if you don't get gold in the previous substages as well, but I've had two silvers before getting gold on the boss stage before. So no, you don't need to gold all of them.

 

[ULTROS!]

Nope. Only the final stage matters. Of course, getting gold will be more difficult in the final stage if you don't get gold in the previous substages as well, but I've had two silvers before getting gold on the boss stage before. So no, you don't need to gold all of them.

Thank god, I'm struggling on the

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9-5

so I'll just finish the sake of it.

 

[LiK]

Thank god, I'm struggling on the

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9-5

so I'll just finish the sake of it.

i wonder how much tougher that is on Normal? i played on Easy and it was nowhere near as frustrating as 7 or some of the earlier chapters.

 

[StunandStab]

i wonder how much tougher that is on Normal? i played on Easy and it was nowhere near as frustrating as 7 or some of the earlier chapters.

I haven't played Easy so I don't know what that is like, but I definitely found

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stage 9

more challenging than stage 7 on Normal.
Not quite there yet on hard... looking forward to it, though

 

[ULTROS!]

i wonder how much tougher that is on Normal? i played on Easy and it was nowhere near as frustrating as 7 or some of the earlier chapters.

I found normal just a tinge harder than easy because it still has undo. Unlike hard, there is no undo and a good number of paths are just "one way" (meaning if you don't succeed, you have to retry from the checkpoint).

 

[ampere]

I found normal just a tinge harder than easy because it still has undo. Unlike hard, there is no undo and a good number of paths are just "one way" (meaning if you don't succeed, you have to retry from the checkpoint).

I would need a lot more practice before I could handle playing without undo. Saved me so many times

 

[Papercuts]

i wonder how much tougher that is on Normal? i played on Easy and it was nowhere near as frustrating as 7 or some of the earlier chapters.

It's a lot harder on normal, I redid it on easy to get most of the ending and there's way more normal blocks instead of cracked ones, more items, easier designs overall.

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In 9-5 against Mutton on easy at the end you pick up a bell right in your path and change the blackhole blocks, on normal that bell is in the middle of the formation in the center and you need to get it. 9-6 was a lot more complex as well.

 

[LiK]

It's a lot harder on normal, I redid it on easy to get most of the ending and there's way more normal blocks instead of cracked ones, more items, easier designs overall.

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In 9-5 against Mutton on easy at the end you pick up a bell right in your path and change the blackhole blocks, on normal that bell is in the middle of the formation in the center and you need to get it. 9-6 was a lot more complex as well.

ah thanks. definitely sounds more challenging.

 

[Chrono Helix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JCHrTdl2_4

The first time I heard the song I thought it was related to the final boss tune in DDS1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6CoW4C5QI0&feature=related
Ok, only the part at 0:15, but still.

her hair color and outfit kept reminding me of Ronald McDonald....

You're not alone.

 

[FairXchange]

I'm actually surprised I'm able to Gold many of these early stages on normal on my 2nd playthrough.

I think I'll have a much harder time once I get to the 5th stage onward, though.

I rarely play games twice in a row, but I had to get the True Catherine Ending to go along with my True Katherine ending.

 

[totowhoa]

Do you have a stray sheep save? You can get to the stages from there.

How's that? The award menu I never checked? Although I have few saves my earliest save is just beyond there, sadly. Do I need to start a new file to replay the stages now? Ugh..

@FairXchange: Got true catherine on my first play through by chance (though I was shooting for pure chaos), and it's pretty epic. Enjoy it.

 

[ULTROS!]

Fuck, I was supposed to gold the final dungeon but I got silver instead due to

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bronzing 9-5

. Fuck fuck fuck.

 

[dragonlife]

...ew

How immature.

 

[Nora Kisaragi]

Catherine's narrative is set in America.

What makes you so sure? I don't see any pr---*sees your username*
...

Bravo, you have defeated me. I will go to sleep now...

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*wakes up in stage 1-1* "...f***"

 

[StunandStab]

Fuck, I was supposed to gold the final dungeon but I got silver instead due to

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bronzing 9-5

. Fuck fuck fuck.

Hmm, you probably shouldn't have stuck with the bronze, 'cause bronze means you were well under the target score for gold. Usually getting silver means you're just shy of the target score for a gold prize so it's okay to go on with that and you can make up for it... bronze on the other hand...

You can check the scores you need for silver/gold at the Catherine wiki. The scores shown there are generally a little higher than what you actually need (I always get less score than what they say and I still get golds), but they should help out.

EDIT: Also it may help to attempt golding that stage through the actual story, rather than through the phone. That way you can make saves right before each level, in which case if you don't get gold on the final level, you can go back to an earlier save if need be without starting all over again.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Just completed it! Took me 14 hours in total
Such a great game

I think I got a bad ending lol, not too sure though

To get the other endings, can I just load up a save before the final night? I'm guessing it's the

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last set of freedom questions

that dictate the ending, right?

Gonna have to replay from the beginning at some point too, only managed to save

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morgan and justin

from Stray Sheep, I'm guessing all of those people you can save if you do it correctly?

 

[ULTROS!]

Hmm, you probably shouldn't have stuck with the bronze, 'cause bronze means you were well under the target score for gold. Usually getting silver means you're just shy of the target score for a gold prize so it's okay to go on with that and you can make up for it... bronze on the other hand...

You can check the scores you need for silver/gold at the Catherine wiki. The scores shown there are generally a little higher than what you actually need (I always get less score than what they say and I still get golds), but they should help out.

EDIT: Also it may help to attempt golding that stage through the actual story, rather than through the phone. That way you can make saves right before each level, in which case if you don't get gold on the final level, you can go back to an earlier save if need be without starting all over again.

Good news, I finally gold-ed the stage. After over 30-50+ fucking retries.

 

[∀ Narayan]

We have an Atlus Employee on the previous page clearly stating it takes place in America

Then what's with the True Freedom ending then?

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Maybe the space station is property of the United States of America? Kind of like Vanquish where SC-01 Providence is the 51st state.

 

[Yoshichan]

Why does my money keep resetting? I could've sworn I had more than I have right now and I haven't bought anything.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Just gone again and got the

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bad cheater

ending, and my first was

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bad lover

Where are my good endings ;_;

 

[Psi]

Just gone again and got the

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bad cheater

ending, and my first was

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bad lover

Where are my good endings ;_;

You should probably try

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choosing the girl that matches your karma meter

 

[ULTROS!]

I feel so giddy getting the Golden Child trophy (all hard in gold). But Babel is gonna be a bitch. Any guides that I can follow to reduce headaches?

Just gone again and got the

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bad cheater

ending, and my first was

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bad lover

Where are my good endings ;_;

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If you're a cheater, go all the way cheater (freedom, not stick to priorities, etc.) in the final 4 question. Else if you're a lover, you have to choose all the good ones (sticking to a lover, etc.)

 

[webrunner]

Catherine's narrative is set in America.

It's a pretty darn Japanese part of America, then, what with the japanese style apartment, heavy sake drinking, japanese-style conveyor sushi bar, and such.

 

[ULTROS!]

Can't we just say this takes place in Japantown, SF?

 

[Papercuts]

I feel so giddy getting the Golden Child trophy (all hard in gold). But Babel is gonna be a bitch. Any guides that I can follow to reduce headaches?

Babel is all randomized so there's no way to make a guide for it. Have fun.

 

[JWong]

Finished.

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True Catherine

Ending

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is pretty funny.

Had to not be honest to get that ending or I would have ended up with dullness.

 

[Korigama]

Can't we just say this takes place in Japantown, SF?

If anyone did,

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it wouldn't explain how the city itself didn't look remotely Japanese once Vincent walked around outside in the cutscene following stage 8

. But then, I see no point in continuing to argue against what the people who brought the game over (and assuredly conferred with the people who developed it) in the first place said.

 

[Yoshichan]

I'm Youtubing the rest of this game. The gameplay is by far the worst thing I've witnessed since random_fps#48194.

Unsatisfying.
Boring.
Clumsy.
Unnecessary "difficult" (not a fun difficulty, just artificial, forced difficulty).
Rubberband as if I'm playing a racing game.

Overall crap.

Story's great, music's good.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I feel so giddy getting the Golden Child trophy (all hard in gold). But Babel is gonna be a bitch. Any guides that I can follow to reduce headaches?

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If you're a cheater, go all the way cheater (freedom, not stick to priorities, etc.) in the final 4 question. Else if you're a lover, you have to choose all the good ones (sticking to a lover, etc.)

Unfortunately I didn't lean either way really, the meter would knock to one side and then go back to middle every time

Anyway, I got the

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true freedom

ending, that one was a good one!
Also WTF, I didn't realise

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they were like, in a space colony or something lol

Will go for the

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Catherine and Katherine good endings

some other time

 

[Grisby]

Just saw the ending of

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True Catherine

. Man, that shit was hilarious. Game has some great endings.

All told on my two playthroughs I've put in about 20 hours, on easy and then normal. The controls got to me at times but the puzzle solving is so satisfying.

 

[Psi]

I'm Youtubing the rest of this game. The gameplay is by far the worst thing I've witnessed since random_fps#48194.

Unsatisfying.
Boring.
Clumsy.
Unnecessary "difficult" (not a fun difficulty, just artificial, forced difficulty).
Rubberband as if I'm playing a racing game.

Overall crap.

Story's great, music's good.

Youtube the

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True Katherine

ending, keeping in mind how much you wanted Erica.

 

[ampere]

I'm Youtubing the rest of this game. The gameplay is by far the worst thing I've witnessed since random_fps#48194.

Unsatisfying.
Boring.
Clumsy.
Unnecessary "difficult" (not a fun difficulty, just artificial, forced difficulty).
Rubberband as if I'm playing a racing game.

Overall crap.

Story's great, music's good.

Play it on easy and be very liberal with your 'undo' button usage, it helps a lot.

 

[srenity]

Finally finished with

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Good Katherine ending "Just Like Old Times"

answering the characters and the questions with what I would have answered if I was Vincent. The nightmare stages are so frustrating but the story makes it worth playing through! Currently going through another run answering questions towards the chaos karma meter.

Random: Whenever I hear the voice at the confessional (aka

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Astaroth

), I keep thinking Teddie is talking to me in the other room (I know it's the same voice actor, but I just can't unsee/unhear it!
Random2: Katherine inspired me to paint my nails blue! Not a color that I usually wear on my nails, haha.

 

[ampere]

Finally finished with

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Good Katherine ending "Just Like Old Times"

answering the characters and the questions with what I would have answered if I was Vincent. The nightmare stages are so frustrating but the story makes it worth playing through! Currently going through another run answering questions towards the chaos karma meter.

Random: Whenever I hear the voice at the confessional (aka

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Astaroth

), I keep thinking Teddie is talking to me in the other room (I know it's the same voice actor, but I just can't unsee/unhear it!
Random2: Katherine inspired me to paint my nails blue! Not a color that I usually wear on my nails, haha.

I knew that voice sounded familiar, couldn't put my finger on it

 

[snap0212]

This is probably a stupid question, but how do I order a drink at the bar? I got a text telling me that I should buy more drinks to take advantage of them during the nightmare stages, but I couldn't figure out how to actually buy them.

 

[Korigama]

This is probably a stupid question, but how do I order a drink at the bar? I got a text telling me that I should buy more drinks to take advantage of them during the nightmare stages, but I couldn't figure out how to actually buy them.

You have to sit at the bar. Boss will ask for your order once you finish each drink (three sips per drink before the glass is empty, default is rum and cola). This will let you check out the drink trivia as well.

 

[momolicious]

Anyone watched the anime Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien ? The theme of the anime reminds me so much of this game

 

[ampere]

This is probably a stupid question, but how do I order a drink at the bar? I got a text telling me that I should buy more drinks to take advantage of them during the nightmare stages, but I couldn't figure out how to actually buy them.

You can drink while sitting at the table with your friends as well, once you finish a drink you get the option to order a new one. I think the drink button was square on PS3.

 

[AntiTout]

You can drink while sitting at the table with your friends as well, once you finish a drink you get the option to order a new one. I think the drink button was square on PS3.

The first thing I do when I sit is hit square+square+square, and the waitress comes for another glass.

I'm now on the third last stage/normal on the JPN version, it's hard for me.
I thought that the left answer will always bring down my 'karma', but i's not!

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Beat it last night. Other than a few spots where I had to figure out the right technique, Normal wasn't that hard at all. Of course, using Undo to reset your combo meter and/or the boss attacks really helped during close calls. The game's really about pattern recognition - most of the times I died were due to a control screwup on my part.

Debating whether to go on to a Hard playthrough or just go through Normal to get through the endings since I have all but 1 gold in every stage and it lets you skip nightmare stages w/ gold on re-plays.

 

[Neiteio]

I got this game at Best Buy -- the second of two Best Buys, in fact, after also unsuccessfully checking at Meijer, Target and Walmart -- and the game did NOT come with an artbook and music CD.

I don't suppose there's any way to get those items now that I have the game, is there? Hmm...

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Anyone think the comment by

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Astaroth in the confessional

near the very end of the game, about

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Vincent seeing him again at some time, in some way, in the future

hints to a sequel? His whole involvement was only vaguely touched on right towards the end, plus we never actually

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saw

him

 

[firehawk12]

I got this game at Best Buy -- the second of two Best Buys, in fact, after also unsuccessfully checking at Meijer, Target and Walmart -- and the game did NOT come with an artbook and music CD.

I don't suppose there's any way to get those items now that I have the game, is there? Hmm...

Those were pre-order bonuses afaik.

It's a pretty darn Japanese part of America, then, what with the japanese style apartment, heavy sake drinking, japanese-style conveyor sushi bar, and such.

What American would make a reference to mythical Japanese creatures? :lol

 

[Neiteio]

Those were pre-order bonuses afaik.

The thing is, at Walmart there was an Xbox 360 version that appeared to have the bonuses attached. But at the second Best Buy, the only of the five stores to have a PS3 version, none of the games had bonuses attached. :-\

 

[george_us]

I'm Youtubing the rest of this game. The gameplay is by far the worst thing I've witnessed since random_fps#48194.

Unsatisfying.
Boring.
Clumsy.
Unnecessary "difficult" (not a fun difficulty, just artificial, forced difficulty).
Rubberband as if I'm playing a racing game.

Overall crap.

Story's great, music's good.

I had to Youtube Night 7 and 8-1 is a huge load of bullshit. The game is pure trial and error.

The non-puzzle elements are really good but I'll be damned if this isn't the most tedious and frustrating gameplay I've ever experienced.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

The thing is, at Walmart there was an Xbox 360 version that appeared to have the bonuses attached. But at the second Best Buy, the only of the five stores to have a PS3 version, none of the games had bonuses attached. :-\

I think the bonuses only come attached with the first printing of the game, perhaps you got one from a second shipment?

 

[Neiteio]

I think the bonuses only come attached with the first printing of the game, perhaps you got one from a second shipment?

Ah, that may explain it then. Well, that's fine, I suppose. I'm surprised the cover was different too, though. It's a closeup of Catherine's face, rather than the waist-up shot of her face, chest and arms.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I had to Youtube Night 7 and 8-1 is a huge load of bullshit. The game is pure trial and error.

The non-puzzle elements are really good but I'll be damned if this isn't the most tedious and frustrating gameplay I've ever experienced.

If you're not enjoying the gameplay just bump the difficulty down in the config menu when you're in Stray Sheep, easy mode still offers a nice amount of challenge but you probably won't die more than a handful of times even on the hardest stages