Flying Toaster
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Yep. Anyone that did not see this coming honestly has not been paying attention. I am curious to see how long it takes for political fallout from this.
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CBO score released on ACHA - 14 million - 2018 - 24 million more uninsured 2026
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WyndhamPrice
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Yeah, this shit's not passing.
I love this selling point by the republicans.
I have access to three star Michelin restaurants, doesn't mean I can get dinner there,
If you make $200k+ you're going to save quite a bit in annual taxes. Even better if you make over $1 million. So exciting!
If you don't make that much you can eff off.
Dead Prince
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obamacare just imploded. thanks obama.
i'm waiting for his reply now.
i'm waiting for his reply now.
UberTag
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Seems like they need to go back to the drawing board in another mysterious room in the Capitol and have the Democrats go on another scavenger hunt to track it down. That was a fun time had by all, was it not?
the_firewithin
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That he doesn't give a fuck
He's "not concerned" with it. Even is apathetic to populism...
It's a reaaaalll hard sell.
But never underestimate the Repubs ability to band together to pass even the shittiest legislation.
We'll see. I think the moderate Republicans of the Senate, where they have a 2 seat buffer, is where this plan will be hung up. I'm sure the Freedom Caucus loves this plan, since it makes poor people suffer and offers minimal savings.
That everyone (R) will fall in line, and they can continue to blame Obama well into 2020 regardless of how this pans out.
Thanks, I tried searching through the text but missed that
PandaPandaPanda
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Shake Appeal
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They're not taking away health care, they're giving people the freedom to not waste their hard-earned money on health insurance.
LegendofJoe
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Freedom to die, if this is passed my father and stepmother will be bankrupted and she will die (fighting cancer at the moment).
KINGofCRA5H
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"Millions of people will die, but think about how much money we're saving!"
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Father_Brain
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but it'll cut the deficit, and that's what really matters
Dead Prince
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perfect time when the iphone 8 is soon to arrive.
Keep in mind that's basically from gutting Medicaid pretty hard after 2020 to pay for tax cuts for the rich.
Netherscourge
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Damage Control conservatives incoming in 5, 4, 3, 2...
"CBO is FAKE STATS!"
"CBO is FAKE STATS!"
It saves 300 billion over 10 years. Which lets be real. Isn't shit. Especially with so many people losing coverage.
Fox Mulder
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He doesn't care. They're doing what they ran and won on.
They may go slightly down, but only because all of the really sick people would be kicked to the curb, or only put into under funded "high-risk pools".
BoogieWoogie
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The Freedom Caucus is on record as hating it because, I shit you not, it's too good of a plan for poor people.
FrontalMonk
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I get that we're all doom and gloom, but Ryan would have to twist a *lot* of arms in the house to push it through, and it's very likely this would die in the senate.
Dubbedinenglish
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The initial shock to the healthcare industry and subsequent collapse would be far more damaging than the savings.
He wasn't. Ryan is not a smart person, he just gives of the appearance that he knows what he's talking about.
Actually they are getting the tax credits savings also. If 14 million people drop out of the individual health market that is basically a shit ton of people that won't use tax credits. The replacement credits are not near as generous especially for the poor.
Neuromancer
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God job you dumb fucks.
They are not. A significant number of healthy people do not want to pay for healthcare. Yes it is stupid but they feel like they are paying to carry the sick. Now they don't have to worry about paying a penalty. Unfortunately for insurance to work you need healthy or low risk individuals to join and pay. Also, as they age and have families they will need insurance and coverage but their shortsightedness will cost millions their coverage now.
Even that excuse can't really fly, because $300 billion over 10 years isn't much of anything.
You just wait. Here come the R commentators "It will save on the massive debt the OBAMA administration has created. An estimated 300 billion in savings!" *never mentions any other number from the report*
Yup. People getting dropped, the premiums going up in the short term will be felt.
Fox Mulder
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Netherscourge
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-So, this 'savings' will go to support SS and Medicare long-term, right?
-Right?
-Right?
GameAddict411
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The GOP will spin this as 14 million people getting their freedom! I mean there is no other way to excuse this. Millions will die because of the lack of coverage. In fact, I think that with this plan the average American will have less access to health care than some developing countries.
You know, I did hear that last week.
That's hard to believe... I wonder if their opinion has changed because it does offer some financial relief. Even though it's incredibly minor.
Fenderputty
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14 million by 2018 mwahahahaha
Do it GOP please do it
Do it GOP please do it
GameAddict411
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Don't worry, the tax savings will be annihilated by the huge tax breaks coming up. The government will end up owing more.
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