Typically, don't they corresponded with a new TV show too? Park and Hefner Maxim adds were legendary at the time.
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CBS refuses to give Asian stars in Hawaii Five-0 equal pay, they leave
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Typically, don't they corresponded with a new TV show too? Park and Hefner Maxim adds were legendary at the time.
Razgriz-Specter
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I mean just look at the scenes she gets on a nearly weekly basis.
wait not those...
hodayathink
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I mean just look at the scenes she gets on a nearly weekly basis.
wait not that..
I'm not saying that I think the guys are better actors than she is. I'm saying that I don't think acting talent really matters when it comes to Google Trends. If it did, then Cate Blanchett and Tilda Swinton would be higher than Scarlett Johansson and Jennifer Lawrence (hint: they aren't).
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Nah I was joking, with all the surfer/bikini scenes she has on a weekly basis i'd be surprised if she wasn't from just that alone.
lightskintwin
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I mean just look at the scenes she gets on a nearly weekly basis.
wait not those...
The boxer Victor Ortiz was on there? LOL I bet his acting was horrible.
UnemployedVillain
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Lol, we had a decade of the whitest NYC anyone has ever seen on TV and people loved it (not necessarily for that reason, but still). They'll find a way to justify it
lightskintwin
Banned
Lol, we had a decade of the whitest NYC anyone has ever seen on TV and people loved it (not necessarily for that reason, but still). They'll find a way to justify it
I don't think the setting matters tbh.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Depressing and somehow horribly surprising.
Both of them seem more recognizable to me than the other dudes.
Both of them seem more recognizable to me than the other dudes.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's weird how two of the girls on that show were basically in much bigger shows at the same time.
SchrodingerC
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I was wondering if Park was leaving the show initially because her character left the island during the last season finale, which seemed like she was being written out, but I didn't expect this.
Fuck CBS for treating DDK and Park like this, they were main cast members as much as the other two and should've been compensated as such.
Fuck CBS for treating DDK and Park like this, they were main cast members as much as the other two and should've been compensated as such.
hodayathink
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Oh, and just for fun, I added O'Loughlin to it, and he's clearly in dead last place.
Even in Australia.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
You should do that with the Asian countries because I think that's where the bulk of the money comes from. lol
hodayathink
Member
In Japan, on average, Scott Caan beats out Daniel Dae Kim.
In South Korea, O'Loughlin actually beats out Caan.
Aeriscloud
Banned
Julie Chen needs to get her man in check.
No, it ended because the ratings sucked. The producers tried setting up a reboot with Castle and his kid, but without Kate. Considering the bad relationship between Fillion and Katic, show really couldn't have continued with both of them. They did quite a few shots where Kate and Castle were talking but the two clearly weren't in the same scene.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
And there it is. lol
I don't think checking for this data with romanized names gives any useful information.
Scott vs Daniel in South korea (in english and in korean results)
Not counting with the fact that korea has its own search engine Naver, which is more used than googles over there
hodayathink
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Daniel already beats Scott romanized in South Korea (which is to be expected since Daniel is South Korean, at least according to Google), this just increases the lead. Though I would be interested in seeing the Japanese results non-romanized, and maybe a Daniel vs Grace in South Korea non-romanized (she still beats him there with their names in English).
teruterubozu
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Along the same lines, Japan prefers yahoo over google. These search engine metrics don't really say much.
Sounds like something a xennial would watch.
isaacnukem
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This sucks a lot. I saw the first season of this show and I thought every character was awesome. I hope this gets rectified but if not, I hope Daniel and Grace get on good shows.
Jason Frost
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Seriously, this is really sad to see Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park go like this...
What are the chances that this is going to be resolved between the actors and CBS before the filming of the next season?
What are the chances that this is going to be resolved between the actors and CBS before the filming of the next season?
lightskintwin
Banned
Zero. The execs have already put out a statement, and have moved on. It's obvious they thought their characters weren't worth the extra cost, therefore they were expendable.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
This is disgraceful, but I hope this frees up Park and Kim to do work better befitting their skill.
I am a 90s baby
Elegant Weapon
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To be real, I find this level of honesty refreshing. Despite all the replies saying "because I'm not racist" blah blah; the truth is, for the majority of white people who produce, write & cast most mainstream mass media, no or less people of color is obviously the escapist fantasy that they want to fantasize about.
How many games like Fable or shows like Game of Thrones where completely imaginary beings exists but for "historical accuracy" reasons, they are few if any people of color?
These artists sit down with a blank page, the license to create & depict anything, so they imagine something fantastic like "dragons are real" and in this same fantasy land they create from scratch, all the people are white. Clearly, in these fantasy worlds that so many enjoy, part of the fantasy is little to no people of color. So even if the viewers don't necessarily have the fantasy of less POC's, it's such an integral part of most of the programming we consume... people are programmed to see white people as default and people of color as background NPCs, if even that
Exactly.
Mighty Chin
Banned
Edgemont for the Win!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's almost like it wasn't a real question. lol
the_darkness
Banned
I didn't watch past the first couple of seasons but aren't Caan and O'Loughlin ostensibly the leads?
In that case I wouldn't think a 10-15% discrepancy is out of the ordinary.
I mean, considering the show's success it seems silly not to meet their demands but I'd hardly call this "disgusting".
In that case I wouldn't think a 10-15% discrepancy is out of the ordinary.
I mean, considering the show's success it seems silly not to meet their demands but I'd hardly call this "disgusting".
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It turned into an ensemble, particularly since Caan became part time. I would say Chi McBride is basically a main member of the ensemble too.
sixteen-bit
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Lol, we had a decade of the whitest NYC anyone has ever seen on TV and people loved it (not necessarily for that reason, but still). They'll find a way to justify it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUc0vbSlanM
HyperZone<3
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I was honestly surprised (shouldn't have been, I know) to see just how little Sung Kang was able to capitalize off of the Fast & Furious movies. The guy has got charisma to spare, and the best he can do now is supporting roles on low-profile TV shows. I'm sure he's glad to be working, but what the hell Hollywood?
Speaking of, its kind of weird how almost nobody in those films ever got much a career boost outside of them, Dwayne Johnson and Vin excepted of course. Just kind of funny how there's this pool of non-white men who are in an enormous global hit every two years and they all might as well be in witness protection except for those films. Just kind of funny, aint it?
Speaking of, its kind of weird how almost nobody in those films ever got much a career boost outside of them, Dwayne Johnson and Vin excepted of course. Just kind of funny how there's this pool of non-white men who are in an enormous global hit every two years and they all might as well be in witness protection except for those films. Just kind of funny, aint it?
Sung was on the Gang Related, which lasted one season on Fox. Too bad because it was really good. Costarred Rza, one dude from Hostel, and a couple famous Latino character actors.
And the show ended on a cliffhanger. Fuuuuu
lightskintwin
Banned
The industry isn't really made for non White actors, and in particularly Asian Male actors.
US industry.
There is plenty of movie and TV content with Asian actors if you take time to search it out. Netflix has plenty, including current-to-air series content.
The problem is that most Americans are too lazy to watch anything with subtitles, so it gets ignored.
lightskintwin
Banned
Obviously.
I'm on an American board speaking about a Hollywood show that's made and airs on an American network television channel with Asian American/Western actors.
The industry I'm referring to is already implied without me saying it.
It's nauseating seeing non Americans constantly point out the obvious as if anything else could possibly be mistaken for my comment.
Sung Kang is currently in the new season of Power and has several movies in development, including a crowd funded movie with Robbie and Stephen Amell.
UnemployedVillain
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You want to see sad?
http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/bobby-lee-and-steven-yeun-auditioned-for-5-lines.html
Hollywood hates Asian men
This pisses me off to no end. It's probably why we'll forever have to experience the classic Jackie Chan movies with those shitty dubs instead of subs. Fucking lazy fucks
lightskintwin
Banned
Steven Yuen got a good part in the upcoming film "Sorry to Bother You" that also stars Lakeith Stanfield, and Tessa Thompson, with the rest of the cast being Arnie Hammer, Jermaine Fowler, Omari Hardwick, and Terry Crews.
Looks like Steven is finding a place in the Black film part of the industry. LOL
You shouldn't assume nationality.
It is a valid issue from an American perspective because content is there, but people would rather ignore it, and complain about not having any English content, than to consume existing content and show that there is a demand for it.
The shows are on Netflix. The movies hit the big screen every month at the local AMC.
But so few people watch them. Even fewer talk about them.
Hollywood shows are big because they are consumed globally. If everyone who complained about the lack of shows with Asian actors would consume even a fraction of the existing content (and there is good content), we would see more of it.
That doesn't excuse the CBS situation, but it is frustrating as part of the larger context as people (sadly) are voting with their dollars.
lightskintwin
Banned
You shouldn't assume nationality.
It is a valid issue from an American perspective because content is there, but people would rather ignore it, and complain about not having any English content, than to consume existing content and show that there is a demand for it.
The shows are on Netflix. The movies hit the big screen every month at the local AMC.
But so few people watch them. Even fewer talk about them.
Hollywood shows are big because they are consumed globally. If everyone who complained about the lack of shows with Asian actors would consume even a fraction of the existing content (and there is good content), we would see more of it.
That doesn't excuse the CBS situation, but it is frustrating as part of the larger context as people (sadly) are voting with their dollars.
Y'know, I thought after I made post, watch this person be American. LOL
I don't think that helps Asian American/Western actors working in America if Americans consumed international films and TV at a higher rate. If anything it would only raise the profiles of those international actors, and give them more value when they came to Hollywood. We already import Asian actors from other countries to star in American films and TV, and I'm certain despite the representation it still hurts the few opportunities Asian American/Western actors barely have.
No harm, no foul. I think it's an interesting discussion.
I guess I would disagree with you on the point of it being a bad thing. I would look at the amount of English content that America consumes and point out that we already have a number of Australian, British, and Canadian shows (to use as an example) that we consume. There are also plenty of foreign actors from those three countries that act in Hollywood.
If the Internet and streaming video has done anything, it has lowered barriers to content across the globe. In the past few years I've watched shows in multiple languages. Some were so-so, but others were amazing. A decade ago, I would have had zero chance of watching those shows because they would have never even had a path to my TV.
I would argue that if Chinese, Korean, and Japanese (live action) TV shows were part of the popular consciousness in America, then that would raise the demand for more content starring Asian American stars. Yes, there would be crossover, with some foreign actors getting starring roles, but there would also be American born actors getting cast. No one complained that a "foreigner" was headlining House after all.
Maybe I'm off my rocker, but it seems like a good way to build demand.
Who knows, maybe we should all just start GAF OTs on the better shows and get to watching. The discussion might draw in others.
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