Cerny: PS4 will rekindle diversity of PSOne era
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They had 8 or 9 diverse indie titles on stage at E3. Octodad was on stage, FFS. Cerny's point is already proven.
Ahaha someone actually made this. I remember we were joking about it. That's freaking awesome.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Remains to be seen.
It is very nice to hear this kind of talk straight from the horse's mouth though.
It is very nice to hear this kind of talk straight from the horse's mouth though.
captainraincoat
Banned
Suikoden and Destruction derby...fuck yeah
That's a bold promise. I have fond memories of the PS1 era. Things were plenty diverse. The question is will PS4 owners accept that diversity today. Will developers be willing to be satisfied with working within limited budgets and be accepting of only modest sales. To have that diversity not all titles will be million sellers. Titles have to stop needing several million sales just to break even.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
The gamepad and kinect don't add anything significant to core gaming at all.Yes plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, man I miss those RPGs
Personally I think MS & Ninty have the 1 up on diversity due to the their available controls, wish Sony didn't axe the camera from the SKU just for those initial sales. So much potential wasted.
SilentFlyer
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I think with PS4 they are doing their best to have diversified games from smallest to biggest studios. Indie is clearly their focus because of innovative and creative ideas they bring to the table.
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/07/10/sony-to-issue-ps4-dev-kits-to-universities/
Dr Maria Stukoff, Head of Academic Development for Sony Computer Entertainment Europe recently announced that they are licensing PS4 devkits to the Universities.
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/07/10/sony-to-issue-ps4-dev-kits-to-universities/
Dr Maria Stukoff, Head of Academic Development for Sony Computer Entertainment Europe recently announced that they are licensing PS4 devkits to the Universities.
Haha, that was fantastic.
Mango The Magician
Banned
They had IPs that interested me, which is more than I can say about the PS3.
you can't be serious, in what universe ToV and Ni no Kuni look the same? Not even similar!
There is no animu artwark, anime is just other way to say animation, and art styles can be distinctly different. There are many art styles of anime, and if people can't see differences between Ghibli work and Tales, there is something seriously wrong with them. It's not even believable.
By this logic all western games look exactly the same. You know, realistic-gritty-movie look and are dismissable in the same way.
The anime art style has always been there though. I think the past 8-10 years have clearly shown that the western audience for JRPGs is maybe 500k, and very few games are able to transcend that boundary to reach a wider sales base. If the same groups of people in North America and Europe are largely buying all of these games, perhaps more titles should just be $30-40 and digital only. The diehards are going to buy their JRPGs regardless, and the lower price may encourage additional pickups with no risk of over or undershipping. At the price point I suggested above, publishers would be taking a $21-28 share, which is in line to what they would earn on a $60 retail title. It's Sony's responsibility to ensure that the Playstation Store on PS4 is well advertised and easy to use. Usability (and download speeds) on the PS3 has left a lot to be desired.
It's cool to be unenthusiastic, and even cooler to shit on things I guess?
Out of all of the IPs they released on PS3, not a single one interested you?
Also, even if that is the case, i don't see how that means they're "meh" now.
plagiarize
Banned
The share button is going to have a huge impact here. It's going to really help the better indie titles rise to the surface. This has been happening a lot on PC. It was a youtube video of someone playing Surgeon Simulator 2013 that got me to buy it, for example. I hope there is a way for people to record voice at the same time as gameplay on PS4. It's going to really help word of mouth.
This. Obviously there's no guarantee of specific genres being better supported than in years past, but Sony is making all the right moves if they want to make the landscape of gaming more diverse and receptive to experiences that aren't your typical AAA fare.
Only time will tell, but I've got my fingers crossed for Sony.
Mango The Magician
Banned
There are some that interest me, but none that I'd say stick with me. Most are forgettable.
Well...uh...opinion?
I love what he is saying but don't see it happening. I just see publishers as the ones who will kill diversity. Until I see more games in the 29.99-49.99 dollar range I just don't see it happening. Indy games are ok but are not going to be solution to make gaming like it was during the PS1 era. It will be the return of the B-tier game that has been killed by 59.99 pricing.
I hope so. That diversity certainly won't come from the big publishers.
The return of B-Tier will only happen if people don't expect AAA graphics/production values from those titles. With all the b-tier HD bombs this generation, I don't think that was the case. Even some of the titles that launched at $30-50 bombed.
Going digital only with a $20-40 price tag would help a lot of the smaller budget niche titles. People are more forgiving of production values for digital titles, especially if they are cheap. Console retail is quickly following the same path that PC retail did in the early 2000s, where only the AAA games flourished.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Will the economy allow it, though?
Captain Tuttle
Member
"Would make" lol? He's beginning to take over the cult of Kaz.
I love good Indie games but I can't help but feel that their importance is being overstated for this coming generation. Just my gut feeling.
SlipperyMoose
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I like you Canis lupus. I like you.
shinobi602
Member
Music to my ears Cerny.
This is what I want
Pre-release. It was always this way. With every company.
They are smart like that, no denying it. (><)
But as it always is: actions speak louder than words.
Oppo
Member
What about self publishing? Does that not nullify this argument?
ibun
Member
exactly. I try not to buy stuff which is download only. So no Pay games on my Phone, no PSN Games, nothing from XBL, no Indies, no Movie streaming, no Series streaming, no mp3s from itunes or amazon, no ebooks, no spotify etc. Everything on Paper or Disc.
Spieler Eins
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Whenever that is the case, I will get the console. Of course, the quality must also be right, which I'm not seeing with Knack for example.
Also, I'm not gonna get any machine for a couple of small download titles - so lol if that's all he's talking about.
Also, I'm not gonna get any machine for a couple of small download titles - so lol if that's all he's talking about.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Nothing was better than the PS1 or PS2 days, so I doubt PS4 will recreate the glory days of gaming. There seems to be much less Japanese support and presence which was imo what mostly built the Playstation foundation back then. It seems like genres or games that dominated back then can barely even sale today. We will see, but I really have my doubts. The industry changed too much and I doubt most casual gamers would even appreciate or understand a PS1 type console.
Where did you see/hear this? News to me.
That's an insult to the N64.
ChorusLindarr
Banned
Indie games that diversify and become more and more ambitious can very much be the new B-Tier games we enjoyed back in the day.
Games like minecraft and Journey prove that true innovation and creative ambition can thrive on the console DD platforms. I would expect those kinds of devs, e.g. Notch's team, and Jon Blow's guys, to be the ones to usher in a brand new tier of games on the DD platforms. Games priced higher than your £7-£15 Journeys, but less than your full fledged £40 AAA games.
If PS3 with all its technical hurdles and bottlenecks gave us games like Journey, then imagine what a much more performant and streamlined PS4 will yield, given all the internal SCE changes Cerny also mentions?
We could potentially see a renaissance in Japanese home console games. With really quirky and unique titles in the same vein as Parapa the Rapper, coming down the pipe on a regular basis.
If there's one thing that's evident to me, its that Sony's current management gets it. And they at least have a plan and a vision for how they expect to preserve the kinds of creativity, uniqueness and innovation in console games that gaming needs so desperately right now. MS on the other hand has shown anything but. So even if Sony's plan fails and it doesn't work out as planned, at least they are making a go of it, and trying to support those developers who could grow up into the next superstar dev houses of the industry. Which is more than most other platform holders can say.
some of my happier videogaming memories (maybe also because I was a kid...)
Well I saw this on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level-5#PlayStation_4
I don't know if it is reliable source or not but I'm gonna believe it. Hehehe
I disagree, actually. I think they are touting the indie support as a selling point, to counteract the AAA-fatigue people have been complaining about in games (especially in the press) for years. Not to mention that they're the only meaningful 3rd-party console exclusive.
He's not talking about established publishers. At all. He's talking about self-published indies. And at some point, they'll be indistinguishable from the PS1-era 'B-tier' game.
