Level 100 AG has 1492000 HP. Iam now at 96 done, which had 1057264 HP.
Holy fuck
That is complete garbage. No other demon had that much. They're basically adjusting for Selene.
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That is complete garbage. No other demon had that much. They're basically adjusting for Selene.
KenjiGlove
Banned
How is it even possible to get to wave 200 with spikes like this?
ArcticDonkey
Member
Yep. Throw vigor fruit after vigor fruit into this and you'll make it eventually. Chip away at it 300-400k at a time.
Yeah, I had to use a Vigor Fruit at level 100. Probably could have done it in 4 if I'd played perfectly, but I didn't. The fodder mobs actually start getting quite strong at this point, to where my units are actually taking some damage that the Selene's+Hero can't quite heal each wave. If I had another soldier spear user this would be a lot easier, as I only need a few more seconds on the boss to do a lot more damage, but all I have is Selene.
Level 101 was a lot easier at least, almost finished it in 3 souls despite screwing up a bunch again.
Level 101 was a lot easier at least, almost finished it in 3 souls despite screwing up a bunch again.
I'm a little behind everyone. Just finished 80. Still havent' had to use more than 2 souls but that will change. In an ideal soul I'll do 450k or so. But I've messed up to the point where I've done less than 300k as well. One glorious time I used Coro's special instead of Selene's. Just kind of laughed as I watched the demon run away with 10k hp.
The Coro raid is actually easier than this one despite my team was like lv 30 and 40. Who would have thought having a 10000 attack arcana means nothing. Feel sorry for those who miss Selene.
lv86 now, no demon nor weapon to be seen yet. Needs 3 souls despite Selene hitting for 75K + 95K + 95K. About 400K damage done per soul.
lv86 now, no demon nor weapon to be seen yet. Needs 3 souls despite Selene hitting for 75K + 95K + 95K. About 400K damage done per soul.
I'm going to beat 100, then spend the rest of the raid doing requests. I'm not going to be able to get far enough for the really good rewards like the 4* enhancers, so there's really no point in spending 4 souls per demon after that.
Yep, I managed to get to 100 in the Coro raid with a party of level 25s and down just by intensely microing level 80 Lindsey friends and through help requests.
Yep, I managed to get to 100 in the Coro raid with a party of level 25s and down just by intensely microing level 80 Lindsey friends and through help requests.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Ugh, I hate the difficulty and gigantic HP spike in this raid
Me: "Yay, I finally have a warrior who doesn't suck."
Gumi: "Fuck you, 2x HP jump in the next raid"
:/
Me: "Yay, I finally have a warrior who doesn't suck."
Gumi: "Fuck you, 2x HP jump in the next raid"
:/
Seductivpancakes
Member
Damn Yari. 80k damage for special move.
silvermember
Banned
Scumi at its finest. I mean remember how optimistic we were before this event? Gumi got us good.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I was expecting to at least do what I did last time, which was hit level 80 with a far weaker team.
At this rate, I will pretty much tap out at level 60 with my level and team :/
BJK
Member
Really makes me wonder how they're going to handle the Club-based DR, where newer players will be punished for not having Coro...if they continue with this kind of HP bump. (And given the scant number of club-wielders, makes me happy to have Lephret and Coro.)
How much more can Gumi piss off their customers before they start to leave? I'm starting to get sick of this...
Coro at lvl.100 had 462000 hp (source)
This demon apparently has 1492000 HP.... Gumi has added 1 million health points since then. Their greed is incredible.
Fuck I'm pissed off now Shouldn't have spent any nickles on this.
Coro at lvl.100 had 462000 hp (source)
This demon apparently has 1492000 HP.... Gumi has added 1 million health points since then. Their greed is incredible.
Fuck I'm pissed off now
Shouldn't have spent any nickles on this.ArcticDonkey
Member
I keep harping on about it but everybody needs to join the church of sub party buffers. Level that Phoena!
Isn't her quest a royal pain in the rear? I have a defensive sub party buffer, but that's it. Phoena sits in my inbox.
ArcticDonkey
Member
Oh most definitely a royal pain. Stock up on revival fruits or just blow the 60 odd prysma needed for the best buff available. 15% damage buff and 10% defensive buff for the whole team makes such a difference, especially when the damage skyrockets during raids like this.
Throw that Trystan and Lilith on the bench and get her up!
Ok. You've convinced me. I'm going to start throwing enhancers at her instead of Lilith. Lilith at level 37 is already stronger than my 45 Melvina anyways. Trystan is sort of useful at 57.
I want Juliana so bad :/
She's a fun character, too. Her artwork has that yandere expression, and she's a loose cannon, as you may be able to tell from the times she shows up outside her chain story.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I actually started playing the game slightly before Coro, so I acrually missed out on Coro. :/
Since then I made it a point to level my characters enough that I get all the 5* event characters. Though with HP inflation, I am not sure how long that can last.
How much more can Gumi piss off their customers before they start to leave? I'm starting to get sick of this...
Coro at lvl.100 had 462000 hp (source)
This demon apparently has 1492000 HP.... Gumi has added 1 million health points since then. Their greed is incredible.
Fuck I'm pissed off now
Holy crap, DAT HP INFLATION.
By the time V2 rolls around the demon raids would jump another million.
This is exactly why, despite still playing the game, I refuse to give one more cent to Gumi. I decided to stop early on, after I saw how they responded to Coropatiron and insisting that everything was "working as intended", despite it obviously not being the case. Even insisting that WE were wrong, when we have Japanese data to prove we were right. Of course we got a "free" Coropatiron later on, but we really needed to work for it. The way Gumi is handling this raid, as well as other aspects of the game, definitely isn't helping things.How much more can Gumi piss off their customers before they start to leave? I'm starting to get sick of this...
Coro at lvl.100 had 462000 hp (source)
This demon apparently has 1492000 HP.... Gumi has added 1 million health points since then. Their greed is incredible.
Fuck I'm pissed off now
Speaking of V2, the Japanese version received the update just after the Selene event ended. I have a feeling that we'll be waiting a long time for V2 in the Global version, that's if we get it at all. But don't worry! We have the [basically useless] Blacksmith feature, as well as the upcoming Colosseum, which will probably be nothing but chum for the IAP players!
I'm on Level 87, with not a single gold chest drop nor a demon drop from the gatcha [every coin used]. I wish I could say I'm surprised but, considering past events, I'm really not. :/
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yeah, this event pretty much has shown me that Gumi shows contempt for the players.
The difference of attention in care between Gumi treating Chain Chronicle users compared to how Gung Ho treats its Western Base for Puzzle and Dragons is striking. While I do enjoy the friendly banter between me and the Gumi employees on the Chain Chronicles Facebook, I rather they don't try to be obvious when trying to nicke and dime us, when others have done a better job of being a good mix of IAP and skill based gaming.
I love chain chronicles, hence why I am far more active here than other generals, but damn do they test this love.
KenjiGlove
Banned
Spending money in this game is always a waste if you look at the amount of $$$ that you need to get one 5*. And even then your new unit probably won't compete with the arcanas that you already got from events. Using prysma for AP refills would probably be better, but that's boring.
I wouldn't say that this game is P2W
as you get enough resources to obtain the big hitters from events (Selene) and Fortune rings (Trystan).
Since you already get strong units for free there really isn't a reason why you should gamble with your money to get more average arcanas. The only reason why anyone would spend money on this game (and most other F2P mobile games) is if they wanted to support the developers but lol Gumi.
I wouldn't say that this game is P2W
yet
Since you already get strong units for free there really isn't a reason why you should gamble with your money to get more average arcanas. The only reason why anyone would spend money on this game (and most other F2P mobile games) is if they wanted to support the developers but lol Gumi.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Just got to 50. Is Aelle Gloon worth keeping?
Also is Ioh worth keeping?
Also is Ioh worth keeping?
Nicky has a permanent spot in my leveling party.
Oh damn. Didn't notice the XP skill.
Yeah. I'm on 83 or 84 and no demon for me either. I've been helping people more. My drive to continue this is pretty low. Looks like I'll have another level 65 demon
101 is a lot easier than 100, so you can probably do more with 4 souls if you want. If you're getting enough help requests to use up your souls, it probably is better to do that though.
I'm on 105 now, still no extra copies sadly. I've probably gotten around 80 rings in total though, so I'm happy with that. Can get back to the story or leveling characters instead of ring farming finally.
No words. :/I wrote this 05-27-2015, 11:58 AM...
Oh why I was right
I don't get you guys :\
Obviously there is gonna be consequences due to the power creep of all the players having better teams than 1-3 months ago. 1.5mil is 4 souls for me (disregarding the extra damage from the stronger minions- but I'm averaging 430-450k a soul currently). And that's just for level 100, depending on the HP decrease from 100 to 101, it might be feasible to get back to 3 souls. I was up to using 4 souls by the mid 70's in the Armilus raid (GixGaf getting me to 80- never forget). Now I'm sitting pretty at 83-84 still only using 2 souls per demon.
It's not like Gumi is doing anything unfair or underhanded. The difficulty of the game/raids is basically growing linearly over time with the increase in team strength.
They basically already gave everyone who cared an LB3 Selene plus raid weapon for her for free. How much more do you want?
Obviously there is gonna be consequences due to the power creep of all the players having better teams than 1-3 months ago. 1.5mil is 4 souls for me (disregarding the extra damage from the stronger minions- but I'm averaging 430-450k a soul currently). And that's just for level 100, depending on the HP decrease from 100 to 101, it might be feasible to get back to 3 souls. I was up to using 4 souls by the mid 70's in the Armilus raid (GixGaf getting me to 80- never forget). Now I'm sitting pretty at 83-84 still only using 2 souls per demon.
It's not like Gumi is doing anything unfair or underhanded. The difficulty of the game/raids is basically growing linearly over time with the increase in team strength.
They basically already gave everyone who cared an LB3 Selene plus raid weapon for her for free. How much more do you want?
Its not like everyone is using Selene.
I didnt have any difficulties in Armilus raid to get 120, even I had only 1 wand, to think if those fuckers gave me 1 wand more. In this raid Iam counting on friends and their Selenes. My party can do about 150k damage to AG. Its not like everyone has leveled Selene to 80 (mine is mid 30s and no spear).
I tried to run full knight party with 2 spear users and 3rd spear (Rebecca) in sub. I could to 34k damage to AG. My friends are doing over 600k damage to AG, I can do 200k if I use Rodell skill but yeah its kinda pain in the ass keep Rodell alive and have enough time in AG.
My alt has 0 Selene and it is at 43 level. Yet it already has 2 AGs another is drop and another is from DC gacha.
I know alot of players that have quitted GCC (many IAPers) due to ridiculous things Gumi has done.
- Julianagate
- Corogate
- Meigate
- Poor fucking customer service (I have many own examples of it).
And now this "Hey they got Selene" "Lets boost AG HP". Also at Coro poison per tick did 1.5% damage. At Armilus poison per tick was 1.0%. At AG poison per tick is 0.5%.
Next raid demon is prolly immune to poison and in v2 if we get it has AC gacha as 5k and lower 5* ring unit drop than Mei was or no drop at all.
Considering Gumi didn't keep the HP level equivalent(s) of the Japanese raid [and increased them quite a bit in the Global release], it kind of feels as though they're intentionally making things more difficult than they should be, so people will forced to spend Prysma [and thus, money].
Take this table, for instance. It lists the HP amount of the Aelle Demon during specific levels of the event.
http://www57.atwiki.jp/sega-chainchronicle/pages/425.html
According to the picture posted earlier by Rixa, a Level 100 Demon in the Global event has 1,492,000 HP. In comparison, a Level 120 Demon in the Japanese version only had 1,075,000 HP. That's a good 20 levels more than the Level 100 Demon, and 417,000 less HP. I'm sure the difference between the two will only increase more as you get higher up in the event.
In my personal opinion, Gumi should kept things as they were in the Japanese release, not purposely make them more difficult to make a quick/easy profit. It just frustrates the player-base otherwise, especially if they know the truth behind it.