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Chain Chronicle |OT| Funding Valkyria Chronicles 4 One IAP At A Time

And suddenly all friends where Hati (exaggeration, in the past I had 2 friends tops with the demon hunter now me and 9 friends have it).

If Gumi had not decided to give away all that fruits this would had been a shitty raid but now it's not a big deal. They will give enough fruits to pay for most 8+ wave levels. I got my first extra Hatifas from DC at level 51.
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
Holy crap is this demon raid hard, I am already using 2 souls for level 20.

I am not even dying, the raid weapon just doesn't attack for shit. I could barely pull 100,000 damage per soul.
 

Avalt

Member
These long ass raid waves really hurt friends trying to help each others. Unless your willing to spend 3 orbs to just help a friend that is...
This is just a poorly designed raid, unless their goal from the get-go was to force out as much money from vigor fruits as possible.
 
As a new player should I be using my event tickets/arcana to try and get Hati, or should I use it at Holy City Tarvern or the original Tavern? I was able to beat Hatifas at fight 10, but just barely and I needed to use all 3 orbs at once to do it.
 

Gizuko

Member
As a new player should I be using my event tickets/arcana to try and get Hati, or should I use it at Holy City Tarvern or the original Tavern? I was able to beat Hatifas at fight 10, but just barely and I needed to use all 3 orbs at once to do it.

Fight your way to 50, and get 1 copy of Hatifas. Stages 30, 40 and 50 are hell, but aside from those you should be okay (if you have any Hati friends that should be enough, until 50 at least).

As to where to pull... Usually, it goes like this: Skip Vice Capital and consider the Holy Capital (because Lilith, Parchelle and Wayne). Do not even consider Maze Pass and only pull at Sage's Tower if you really want a mage. Pull at Lake of Sand for buffers that will make raids easier.

However, if we account for Gumi's features (TM) and the fact that you are a new player and possibly missed Coro, Selene and Trystan... Your best bet is to pull at fests for now (VC has warrior units but they are quite outdated, and you probably are far from The 9 Territories and v2 taverns).

I was going to ramble about how this one isn't good for new players, but it features 2 good dancers (although Hassan is outdated), some crafters and, most importantly, Sonya and Hati. Sonya is a solid warriro that WILL last you through v2 as well as v1. They introduced a Sonya-only sword which buffs her a lot in mage-soldier comps just a couple of weeks ago, but until there you should be able to manage with new units+her, just keep that in mind.

HOWEVER if you feel you can make do for now, I'd wait until they announce next week's fest, in case it's better or they decide to launch v2's second tavern (wouldn't count on it, really) - or even better Trelancia! Because Gumi never cared about launch dates at all.
 
Holy crap is this demon raid hard, I am already using 2 souls for level 20.

I am not even dying, the raid weapon just doesn't attack for shit. I could barely pull 100,000 damage per soul.

Yeah I failed 20. I went in using 1 soul and got to her with about 4 seconds left. I didn't even have enough time to walk up and use a special on her. >_>
 

Hcoregamer00

The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yeah I failed 20. I went in using 1 soul and got to her with about 4 seconds left. I didn't even have enough time to walk up and use a special on her. >_>

Not sure if it is Gumi or Sega's fault, but the problem with this raid is two fold:
-Crappy raid weapon that attacks between 1.5x to 2x
-Too many waves, there should NOT be 7 waves of attackers in level 30, if any traditional demon raid is any indication, there should be 4 at most.

The HP is no problem as of yet, but these two issues compounded made this raid unnecessarily hard. The more waves meant that you had only a small amount of time to take a crack the HP of the demon boss, plus the terrible attack multiplier meant that most level 60 mages are attacking 800-1000 and most level 80 are attacking 1200-1800.
 
Not sure if it is Gumi or Sega's fault, but the problem with this raid is two fold:
-Crappy raid weapon that attacks between 1.5x to 2x
-Too many waves, there should NOT be 7 waves of attackers in level 30, if any traditional demon raid is any indication, there should be 4 at most.

The HP is no problem as of yet, but these two issues compounded made this raid unnecessarily hard. The more waves meant that you had only a small amount of time to take a crack the HP of the demon boss, plus the terrible attack multiplier meant that most level 60 mages are attacking 800-1000 and most level 80 are attacking 1200-1800.

the raid weapon is on par with other raid weapons, in future raids, its usually pull the featured units or start dancing a friend's unit away

the number of waves are all on gumi, lol
I don't think any demon raid in jpcc has ever gone past 6 waves
 

elty

Member
I got a weird bug, one card became a level 0 Latty with a screwed up description. Her skill is a heal that cost mine soldier mana.
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elty

Member
As a new player should I be using my event tickets/arcana to try and get Hati, or should I use it at Holy City Tarvern or the original Tavern? I was able to beat Hatifas at fight 10, but just barely and I needed to use all 3 orbs at once to do it.
No

Your team is probably to weak and even Hati won't help you much with this hard mode raid. Save your tickets.

If you find you don't have enough time, use the three soul option. Later this week people will start helping out and you can send it out to friend. Most people can still one soul lv50 so getting the first reward shouldn't be a problem.
 
Would Hatifas with the ability to draw extra mana be more useful than Frau in this raid?

Not really. Mana hasn't really been an issue for me in this raid. I can get 8 mana easily by the time Hatifas rolls up. It's getting the time to use all 8 mana that's the problem. And even using 2 Hatis' skills twice isn't enough to kill Hatifas anymore past level 50. With Frau you could at least buff your party with her skill and use that to give your Hati's a chain bonus damage boost.
 

Stider

Member
Not really. Mana hasn't really been an issue for me in this raid. I can get 8 mana easily by the time Hatifas rolls up. It's getting the time to use all 8 mana that's the problem. And even using 2 Hatis' skills twice isn't enough to kill Hatifas anymore past level 50. With Frau you could at least buff your party with her skill and use that to give your Hati's a chain bonus damage boost.

Only reason I suggest Hatifas is so you can use Roxanna/Musica etc. to clear the lower levels quicker to give you more time on the boss.
 
Only reason I suggest Hatifas is so you can use Roxanna/Musica etc. to clear the lower levels quicker to give you more time on the boss.

Oh yeah, haven't put Musica in my party yet because everything pre-50 has been pretty easy.

I thought the 8 wave thing was just for the level 50 milestone. I didn't know it was gonna be for every level after 50. That's some ridiculous bullshit. Gumi moving goalposts again even though very few players still make it halfway to the finish line.
 
I thought the 8 wave thing was just for the level 50 milestone. I didn't know it was gonna be for every level after 50. That's some ridiculous bullshit. Gumi moving goalposts again even though very few players still make it halfway to the finish line.

It is pure horseshit. Even with 2 Hatis and a team of mages, by the time I enter the 8th wave there is about 8-10 seconds left on level 54. I'm using 2 orbs to clear now and my desire to keep going is just about done. Gumi's crap is leaving me cold.
 

elty

Member
lv71 is back to 6 waves and thus I can one soul it. Heard it will go back to 8 waves at 91 and 9 waves at 101 though.
 

Stider

Member
Hint: The armoured enemies that spawn along with Hatifas inflict blind so use Hati to attack them first to get the attack boost before using her special.
 

Lockon

Member
Yea, fuck these 8 waves. I'm at 57 I think. I probably need to use 3 souls now.

Only good thing so far is that I pulled 2 Hatifas from demon coins today.
 
lv71 is back to 6 waves and thus I can one soul it. Heard it will go back to 8 waves at 91 and 9 waves at 101 though.

Jesus, no wonder they're giving away vigor fruits like crazy.

No demon chest here either at 57 levels. Not surprised though. Throughout every single raid I think I've only ever gotten the demon chest once.
 

Elepsis

Neo Member
Hint: The armoured enemies that spawn along with Hatifas inflict blind so use Hati to attack them first to get the attack boost before using her special.

Yeah, I was doing that until I got to the 8-wave levels. Now all I have time for is to drag my Hati up to the front and get off her skill, hopefully with a few buffs in place.

I was so excited to finally get to a high level this raid. This is such garbage. Not sure I'd have spent 15 tickets on Hati if I'd known what Gumi would do.
 

Rixa

Member
This is just Gumi digging their own grave.

Yeah and since my alt doesnt have Musica and Iam not interested enough to waste my time to raid and extensively move units, alt is not going to do over 50 level (somewhere +30 now).

Main prolly does it to 100, I have now 55 demons done. But this raid is again so fucked up, I hate to constantly stare screen and click click units and cant even use faster speed due to fucking time it costs when you make misclick or move error.

Mana is not the issue, everything else is.
 

chrono01

Member
Yeah and since my alt doesnt have Musica and Iam not interested enough to waste my time to raid and extensively move units, alt is not going to do over 50 level (somewhere +30 now).

Main prolly does it to 100, I have now 55 demons done. But this raid is again so fucked up, I hate to constantly stare screen and click click units and cant even use faster speed due to fucking time it costs when you make misclick or move error.

Mana is not the issue, everything else is.
The raid is definitely a mess.

When you can't even attack the demon herself since it takes too long to even reach her [and these aren't underpowered units we're fighting with either, these are event-centered ones!], that right there is a problem. If I can make it to Level 80 for my second Hatifas [and that's not looking the best right now], I'll stop there. It's just not worth the frustration.
 

Azusa

Member
The raid is definitely a mess.

When you can't even attack the demon herself since it takes too long to even reach her [and these aren't underpowered units we're fighting with either, these are event-centered ones!], that right there is a problem. If I can make it to Level 80 for my second Hatifas [and that's not looking the best right now], I'll stop there. It's just not worth the frustration.
Use 3 souls. No need to worry about time.
 

Rixa

Member
The raid is definitely a mess.

When you can't even attack the demon herself since it takes too long to even reach her [and these aren't underpowered units we're fighting with either, these are event-centered ones!], that right there is a problem. If I can make it to Level 80 for my second Hatifas [and that's not looking the best right now], I'll stop there. It's just not worth the frustration.

I was planning that my alt does 3 souls per demon. Auto x2 speed and thats it. It should be doable with double Hati.
 

chrono01

Member
Use 3 souls. No need to worry about time.
I could do that, but I prefer to use one soul so I can guarantee a full mana bar when I hit the boss wave for each soul used. :(

As of right now, I have just enough time to empty my bar, but nothing more than that. If it gets to the point of not having time to activate any abilities, I'll have to switch the three souls.
 

Rixa

Member
Remember, we still have 55 vigor fruit coming our way before the raid ends. Even using 3 souls per raid should still be able to do 8-10 runs per day at best guess.

True. But as this raid is bs I dont spend my Vigors here (atleast alt wont). And my main should have no problems to get 100. Its only that I dont have time to work 2 accounts to 100 with this bs crap :p.
 

Gizuko

Member
Remember, we still have 55 vigor fruit coming our way before the raid ends. Even using 3 souls per raid should still be able to do 8-10 runs per day at best guess.


Hatifas is great, but Alphim and Tablubik are by far two of the best demons so far. I trust Gumi either apologizes for this fuck-up or destroys their raids too. They are still a ways off, but it is better to keep that in mind before blindly gobbling VF just because some idiot thought increasing waves was a good idea.
 
Too many Selenes, boost HP of Aelle Gloon. Too many Hatis, increase number of waves for Hatifas. I've been playing this thing for a year and I'm still progressing through raids like it's the Katarith raid.
 

Quixzlizx

Member
I have a Rox/Frau/Musica/Hati team with a level 80 Hati friend, and I can't beat level 50 because I have less than 10 seconds left by the time I reach the boss wave. The first time I tried it, I went through the buff chain and ran out of time before actually using Hati's special. The second time, I only activated Musica and then barely had enough time, but it wasn't nearly enough damage.
 

Gizuko

Member
LB3 Hati and I'm out of prysmaaaaa T.T

Btw, anyone using 1 account across 2 de devices? I have read different opinions and am rather scared Gumi's maintenances (TM) will fuck something up.
 

RalchAC

Member
So they've posted in their forums saying that since the raid is too hard they're giving 10-15 vigor fruits daily and increasing Hatifa's rate.

I'm at level 30, managed to drop half the hp before running out of time. On X0 stages I guess I'll be using 3 souls
 

sasuke_91

Member
Yay, got another Hati with the 3 Tickets we got today. She's lvl 32 right now, I'll make her my main soon, so if anyone needs help:
162058891

I'm at level 40 right now and got 1 Hatifas through Demon Coins. LB1 Hatifas any good?
 

elty

Member
Will people actually help when lv100+ require three soul just to see the demon? I think at that point you probably need six soul to kill one (or a revival fruit) when things hit to hard and you die before the full 200 seconds is used up.
 

Quixzlizx

Member
LB3 Hati and I'm out of prysmaaaaa T.T

Btw, anyone using 1 account across 2 de devices? I have read different opinions and am rather scared Gumi's maintenances (TM) will fuck something up.

Is there a reason why you're using all of your prysma to LB Hati instead of saving for the next tavern? Is she that valuable?
 

Gizuko

Member
Is there a reason why you're using all of your prysma to LB Hati instead of saving for the next tavern? Is she that valuable?

I actually rethought my strategy: I'm planning to build a knights+mages team with Minoa, and a Mage-only team for casino stages (after the Alphim raid), since I have a dancer team and my soldiers are pretty bad. Mage-only teams are can forgo Elemia/Yona by adding Shauna since she passively heals club and spear users, and hati uses a club.

I know Mira and Morgan are quite awesome, but most archer-related stages are archer-only and I don't plan to roll with archer+knights (I like mages better, too). Since I can still MLB Solo and build mono-archer I figured I'm in no rush for Ocean's Dawn's tavern.

(Although it has more to do with getting 4 copies through premium tickets and being stubborn after that :/ )
 

Rarutos

Member
I pulled a Hati last night but I've been needing to use three souls to beat Hatifas as well past Lv. 50. How frustrating. I've only gotten an extra Hatifas from Demon Coins, still no chest drop though. I'd really like to MLB her if possible but I guess I have to start using more Vigor Fruits to get to 80.
 

Gizuko

Member
Pro tip for dance troupe users:

Borrow a second Rox, not a second hati, and don't be afraid to use Musica during the first waves.
 

BJK

Member
After clearing wave 62, I got my first bonus Hatifas from demon coins. I'll make at least LB2, since I'm gunning for the extra PT at Lv. 100.
3-orbing everything...mostly because it gives me a margin for error with all the extra waves this time around.

EDIT: Gold Chest at 64; should make LB3
 
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