Charlotte anime |OT| 5 Seconds in heaven; show me your power
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Could be a cultural thing. Drug abuse is a massive deal in Japan compared to the west it seems. Pot will get you 4 years.
Cornbread78
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True, I think Nao was trying to protect him at the end from doing irreparable damage to himself by going that route at the end; no body/mind/power control right there would remove his humanity.
KenjiGlove
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I was expecting Yuu to tell her that he did not save her at all - but instead that he almost made her die in purpose.
By the way, I really liked the way Shirayanagi reacted to the altered, mentally unstable Yuu. Even though he was suffering (a lot) for his sister's death, she could see clearly how he could really be when altered.
I hope we get to see her one more time before the series ends.
Basileus777
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It was pretty amusing how terribly she handled the whole situation. The last thing anyone with a lick of sense would do is repeatedly shout at Yuu about how he is mentally ill. Like anyone would ever respond to that well in those circumstances.
KenjiGlove
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Hey, are you the same Co1onel on Deviantart? I think I stumbled upon that when looking for Monogatari pictures.
x24hrs2livex
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Episode 7 was a fantastic follow up to episode 6. Really glad I got into this anime.
Yup
KenjiGlove
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Cool, the world is a small place I guess
Cornbread78
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I disagree.
It explored on the horrible depths that this character could have ended up going to if he kept going down the path that he was going down in the first episode. Having gone down that path and nearly reaching a point of return only to have someone pull him back and give him a reality check is the kind of event that this character needed to truly help keep him on the correct path. Even if the little sister shows up later, it helped give this dude some character development.
Now the way that it was all framed with the incredibly violent acts going ignored, and the instant 180 in his personality in the last few minutes of the episode? Yeah, that was rather poorly done. Still, I liked the episode overall to forgive it for those shortcomings.
Now the way that it was all framed with the incredibly violent acts going ignored, and the instant 180 in his personality in the last few minutes of the episode? Yeah, that was rather poorly done. Still, I liked the episode overall to forgive it for those shortcomings.
I kind of viewed that as more of a "straw that broke the camel's back" situation. I agree that it wasn't a very elegant way to play out that whole scenario though.
Honestly, I would've liked to see him go full villain instead of the silly turn around. I liked the gradual build up to it. The realization that I have power.
I mean the chick didn't stop him when he was impaling fools with tooth picks and beating other people's heads in. But a little drugs is over the line?
I mean the chick didn't stop him when he was impaling fools with tooth picks and beating other people's heads in. But a little drugs is over the line?
Yuu's character seems too flimsy to me. He started out in the first episode already aware of his power and what he could use it for, and he did just that. He was presented as a character who wasn't afraid to take advantage of people and his power in order to get what he wants. Then Nao comes along and kicks him a couple times and he turns into the most boring character of the show who had no impact on the way the events played out. Then imouto dies, and suddenly he's back to using his powers to get whatever he wants, until of course Nao comes along and kicks him a couple times. Yuu is actually entertaining to watch in the 1st and 7th episodes, and he's the main subject of those episodes. It just feels weird how he turns into this apathetic character who just kinda sits by and watches. It's cool if they want Yuu to come to a realization that he can't use his powers for whatever he wants, but they kinda changed his entire personality in an instant instead, and twice for that matter. Guess we should wait for the next episode though to see what he's like now though.
I also thought it was really weird that Nao suddenly decides drugs were too much, yet him stabbing other people wasn't.
TheVampire
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Where were Yuu's parents during all this??
are you a casual? obviously working overseas, duh
I actually don't know. they might be dead too.
TheVampire
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It's a dick move by the parents.
Too busy working overseas to help your now only child deal with the loss.
Too busy working overseas to help your now only child deal with the loss.
Cornbread78
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He gets reality checked both times by Nao. She proves to him that he isn't unbeatable. She could kill him at any time if she really wanted/had to.
Also, from earlier posts, drugs are a huge nono in Japan, but also I think she was stopping him from the coke because if he dod, he literally could lose control of himself and his powers, which would almost mean certain death for himself and many others.
Don't worry guys, she's probably in the world of angel beats right now hanging out with Otonashi.
It's not about Yuu, it's about Nao's morals. She didn't care about him stabbing other people enough to do something about it, but she did care when he was going to injure his own body.
I'm not convinced. It doesn't feel natural and it's too sudden. And even if he comes to the realization that he's not unbeatable, he shouldn't change so drastically in an instant.
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Cornbread78
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There was a bigger one in ep.5, lol.
http://imgur.com/0jroGSD
1) Oh, you are correct that the decision was completely about Mao. It actually shows that she has more feelings for him than has been shown so far. She was watching over him the whole time and it came to a point where he started to destroy himselfm she had to put a stop to it.
2) The final scene wasn't just about him being unbeatable though; she feels partly responsible as well and of course wth that regeret, she was going to do what she could to remind him what love really is. Not in reference to her, but in reference to his Ayumi; is that behavior what she would like?
Another question:
Who was the
adult female at the funeral and in the car with Yuu
KenjiGlove
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Charlotte episode 8 preview
Speaking about SF references...
Anyhow,
Speaking about SF references...
Anyhow,
a new character and a happy atmosphere, weird, maybe it's Charlotte, maybe it's not even a girl. Did we see this person already?
all he has to do is take control of another person in the area to see her. She's only unbeatable when you are alone with her
and as somebody said, her moral compass is messed up. He was stabbing people like hotcakes and taking on mobs of people
Also this ep brings into question the whole premise of the show. Why are children tasked with life and death situations. On 1 hand I'm supposed to not think the show is silly, but then we have an easily avoidable situation with ayu mismanaged by dumb kids. Like collapse sounds like an extremely serious power and even if she was sick, she should've been quarantined
Cornbread78
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She does the same to people, which is why she got the $hit kicked out of her a couple episodes ago. Her morals are completely messed up, but she wanted to protect him from himself...
Also, yeah, they didn't manage it clsoe enough, which is one of the reasons she stayed by his side and admitted to him she feels partly responsible.
Cornbread78
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Stolen from the Anime thread, lol.
Oh and speaking of Angel Beats references in Charlotte:
Well, looks like she will be involved with feathers - just like that mysterious girl from the Opening.
Red_taiyaki
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It's Key, so my guess is that they'll use Shirayanagi one more time in the series in a big way. She was featured in the first episode after all, and it's not like them to throw away one of the first characters they introduced just as a simplistic plot device like that....
Cornbread78
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I'very been trying to figure out how those featers and the clock from the OP fit into the story, hopefully, we get more insight on that tomorrow.
She may appear in a cameo appearance again. I was confused as to why she was the one to show up in this apt during that scene. How did she even find out about lil' sis?
KenjiGlove
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Probably some behind the scene works of Nao.
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As for Feathers, maybe something related to a Phoenix would be a nice guess, kinda works with the whole "reviving" thing that the secret girl is probably going to be involved in.
Yusarin also fits this a bit but that would be a huge stretch.
Cornbread78
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Who knows why it was her, but maybe Nao did know her. Sounds like the landlord/school let her in the door even though she doesn't go to that school.
Good idea with the Phoenix idea. Maybe that is who Charlotte is? A lot of info needed in the final 5 episodes.
Red_taiyaki
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Yah, we are still missing a lot of information from the series but I'm still pretty confident that it won't go the way of Angel Beats! where it was "rush rush rush WTF JUST HAPPENED T____T."
Regardless, should be fun the next couple of weeks while we wait for the series' inevitable conclusion...and just watched the PV. It's going to be nice having a lighter toned episode again after the past ep.
I liked Angel Beats a lot, but I just don't want Charlotte to be rushed in the same way. Apparently they've learned from their past mistakes, so I'm not worried that much.
And please, develop Yuu x Nao. DON'T RUSH IT!
Cornbread78
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This is what I'm talking about. They waited until the last 5 mins of the final episode to reveal the Angel relationship. It should have happened several episodes earlier. I still loved Angel Beats though, lol.
About an hour left. I'm ready!
Here's hoping we get some development on their relationship TODAY.
Here's hoping we get some development on their relationship TODAY.
KenjiGlove
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The feathers are probably from Nao's brother's pillow, that would make more sense.
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Pretty solid episode, I like the new character,
Really odd that we had to listen to two different songs in one episode though, I don't even know why they bothered with Yusarins song this time, I wasn't really bothered by it though.
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Pretty solid episode, I like the new character,
Really odd that we had to listen to two different songs in one episode though, I don't even know why they bothered with Yusarins song this time, I wasn't really bothered by it though.
That engrish tho
Charlotte 8
I quite liked the episode. A cooldown from last week, though I still not really comfortable with Yuus quick character changes. Aside from that, the new character (
) was pretty interesting and seems to be quite important to the main plot, whatever that's going to be.
The engrish though, lol.
I quite liked the episode. A cooldown from last week, though I still not really comfortable with Yuus quick character changes. Aside from that, the new character (
ZHIENDs vocalist
The engrish though, lol.
Episode 8
Frankly, I'm losing my faith in this show... Eight episodes in and I'm still not sure where they actually want to go with the story. The powers? The scientists? Yuu becoming a good guy and getting over his loss?
The show wants me to think that Yuu got over being an asshole who abused his powers thanks to Nao and company, but the change happens way too fast and without enough meaningful interactions to make it believable (and that happens not only once, but actually twice). The way the writers have him downright say that he has become a better person thanks to Nao's kindness is another example of the series not handling "show, don't tell" right. Again we're told that Nao has done lots of things that mean a lot to him, but looking at the show it doesn't look like she had actually done all that much until the previous episode, and even then it didn't feel like what she did should've been enough to achieve such a radical change in Yuu even faster than in the transition from the first to the second episode.
Also, what was up with the Yusarin video? It felt like it was only there to take up time, since nothing at all came out of it other than the generic fanboy reaction from that other guy whose name I can't even remember.
Frankly, I'm losing my faith in this show... Eight episodes in and I'm still not sure where they actually want to go with the story. The powers? The scientists? Yuu becoming a good guy and getting over his loss?
The show wants me to think that Yuu got over being an asshole who abused his powers thanks to Nao and company, but the change happens way too fast and without enough meaningful interactions to make it believable (and that happens not only once, but actually twice). The way the writers have him downright say that he has become a better person thanks to Nao's kindness is another example of the series not handling "show, don't tell" right. Again we're told that Nao has done lots of things that mean a lot to him, but looking at the show it doesn't look like she had actually done all that much until the previous episode, and even then it didn't feel like what she did should've been enough to achieve such a radical change in Yuu even faster than in the transition from the first to the second episode.
Also, what was up with the Yusarin video? It felt like it was only there to take up time, since nothing at all came out of it other than the generic fanboy reaction from that other guy whose name I can't even remember.
Cornbread78
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Charlotte ep.8
Wow, that was a great episode. So many thing happening that totally embed you in the story further. Little things like Yusarin's pose in the video with her arms up matching Ayumi's arms high pose from opening, damn..
Holy shit at that foreshadowing from Sala,the lead singer of Zheind, there is a HUGE connection with her (IMO) it's comments known. Lind people have better awareness of their surroundings by building and using their other senses, but she took it one step further not just in the session with Nao's brother (the miracle) but in reading her surroundings and the feeling of those around her. Is that what she traded her eyesight for? there is something more to her. Now, is regard to the whole Nao x Yuu thing, goodness, can you imagine how great Angel Beats could have been if they added this type of relationship development in for Otonashi and Kanade. Great way to bring them together and as Sala cleared called him out on, he is finally putting someone else and their wants/needs in front of his own. This also goes directly with his comments/regrets about not paying Ayumi back for her thoughtfulNess and kindness. Excellently written episode for one with a lot of growth and development for characters, ships, and story. Now next week I bet we are going to get more info on Sala's blindness and how Zheind fits into the plotline. Excellent stuff. I think I liked that one too much, lol.
Wow, that was a great episode. So many thing happening that totally embed you in the story further. Little things like Yusarin's pose in the video with her arms up matching Ayumi's arms high pose from opening, damn..
Holy shit at that foreshadowing from Sala,the lead singer of Zheind, there is a HUGE connection with her (IMO) it's comments known. Lind people have better awareness of their surroundings by building and using their other senses, but she took it one step further not just in the session with Nao's brother (the miracle) but in reading her surroundings and the feeling of those around her. Is that what she traded her eyesight for? there is something more to her. Now, is regard to the whole Nao x Yuu thing, goodness, can you imagine how great Angel Beats could have been if they added this type of relationship development in for Otonashi and Kanade. Great way to bring them together and as Sala cleared called him out on, he is finally putting someone else and their wants/needs in front of his own. This also goes directly with his comments/regrets about not paying Ayumi back for her thoughtfulNess and kindness. Excellently written episode for one with a lot of growth and development for characters, ships, and story. Now next week I bet we are going to get more info on Sala's blindness and how Zheind fits into the plotline. Excellent stuff. I think I liked that one too much, lol.
Based from the episode, Yuu pretty much foreshadows another Shirayanagi encounter, as many of here suspected.
By the way:
The guy at the center appears to be wielding a cane - maybe he's blind. Not only that, his eyes also look similar to Sala's.
Sala must be hiding something, a huge power perhaps - and I'm guessing next week is gonna be a decisive point for this. Whatever it is, it isn't a mere coincidence that we may meet another blind character with weird eye colors.
Something huge is about to be revealed!
Felt the same.
By the way:
The guy at the center appears to be wielding a cane - maybe he's blind. Not only that, his eyes also look similar to Sala's.
Sala must be hiding something, a huge power perhaps - and I'm guessing next week is gonna be a decisive point for this. Whatever it is, it isn't a mere coincidence that we may meet another blind character with weird eye colors.
Something huge is about to be revealed!
Felt the same.
Episode 8
The episode was nice but a bit boring. I liked the end but still it doesn't seem to have progressed the important parts. At least, it was a nice transition for Yuu after his first way of grieving. I hope the next episode will center on the other group. In any case, ZHIEND seems to have a connection to the man in Yuu's dream.
The episode was nice but a bit boring. I liked the end but still it doesn't seem to have progressed the important parts. At least, it was a nice transition for Yuu after his first way of grieving. I hope the next episode will center on the other group. In any case, ZHIEND seems to have a connection to the man in Yuu's dream.
KenjiGlove
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What's up with their hair? It looks like they're all wearing a mask/helmet or something.
I think the problem I had with this episode goes all the way back to episode 1. Yuus 180° personality change was already way too sudden when it happened once, now it happened a second time and was equally sudden.
The episode itself was absolutely fine in that regard and I thinks Yuus behaviour this time was believable - or would have been, if the show would have made his first change more gradual.
Here's how they could have handled it better, imo:
Like I said, Yuu shouldn't have went from pseudo-Lelouch to kind-hearted good guy from one scene to the next. All the episodes before the accident were already only for character introduction and development, use them for this stuff, too. He should have misused his power here and then and get told off by Nao for it. Then, over those episodes he could've slowly stopped this misuse until he became the Yuu he was from episode 2 onward. Only this time, we are now in episode 5 or something. And then, bam, shit happens and just after he becomes a good guy, he goes back to just doing what ever he wants with his power in episode 7.
Imo, his this sudden change in personality from last episode to this episode wouldn't have felt so sudden and his 'Nao changed me' thoughts would have been more believable.
Oh, about Yusarins song and the way everyone ignored the accident (I think someone complained about that): I actually really liked that. They all tried hard to distract Yuu in their own way and tried not to remind him of what happened. I think that's way more helpful and tactful than going "I'm really sorry she died, but you need to forget about it and move on." "Yeah no shit. Thanks for constantly shoving something I'm already trying my hardest to accept and move on in my face."
This episode would have been perfect if they'd just spent more time on character development for Yuu.
The episode itself was absolutely fine in that regard and I thinks Yuus behaviour this time was believable - or would have been, if the show would have made his first change more gradual.
Here's how they could have handled it better, imo:
Like I said, Yuu shouldn't have went from pseudo-Lelouch to kind-hearted good guy from one scene to the next. All the episodes before the accident were already only for character introduction and development, use them for this stuff, too. He should have misused his power here and then and get told off by Nao for it. Then, over those episodes he could've slowly stopped this misuse until he became the Yuu he was from episode 2 onward. Only this time, we are now in episode 5 or something. And then, bam, shit happens and just after he becomes a good guy, he goes back to just doing what ever he wants with his power in episode 7.
Imo, his this sudden change in personality from last episode to this episode wouldn't have felt so sudden and his 'Nao changed me' thoughts would have been more believable.
Oh, about Yusarins song and the way everyone ignored the accident (I think someone complained about that): I actually really liked that. They all tried hard to distract Yuu in their own way and tried not to remind him of what happened. I think that's way more helpful and tactful than going "I'm really sorry she died, but you need to forget about it and move on." "Yeah no shit. Thanks for constantly shoving something I'm already trying my hardest to accept and move on in my face."
This episode would have been perfect if they'd just spent more time on character development for Yuu.
King Gilga
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This show is all over the place.
And did we really need to waste 5 minutes on that shitty music video?
And did we really need to waste 5 minutes on that shitty music video?
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