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it's about time t_d goes
this is beyond the pale
It's a fucking terrorist subreddit at this point. Good to see Reddit's priorities. Upskirts = nope. Nazis = sure have fun.
it's about time t_d goes
this is beyond the pale
There are people who think BLM is a terrorist group. They're wrong of course, but what happens when you let someone make a judgement call and the person who makes it is one of those people? How do you guarantee that won't happen
There are people who think BLM is a terrorist group. They're wrong of course, but what happens when you let someone make a judgement call and the person who makes it is one of those people? How do you guarantee that won't happen
Or maybe the US just isn't that super special unlike what you get taught in school. Hate speech laws work. No one has been unfairly attacked under them anywhere else. Sort your shit out.
Btw, still wondering what you were saying about Jim Crow.
Who cares what people think? The law doesn't suddenly bend to popular opinion when it comes to hate speech. How naive are you?
You don't need someone making a judgement call for banning these though:
James Alex Fields of Ohio
In a democracy, the majority writes the laws.
BECAUSE NAZIS ARE AN ESTABLISHED THING SINCE THE 1940S AND HAVE NEVER STOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT WHITE SUPREMACY BY KILLING OTHERS!!!
Question:
Is Trump's "all sides" reaction a sign of him being confused, trying to be careful not to complicate matters before consulting his staff, ignorance, or sheer hate?
I find it hard to get to the root of what is going on his head.
To be its very telling he was on the "call it islamic terrorism" boat while Obama was in office but here he will not say "white supremecy" or "bigotry".
Along with the entire Republican party fostering the growth of this shit and normalizing it. Only to come out now and clutch pearls.8 years of obama really pissed these white people off
I agree. I just don't agree that singling out Nazis will actually accomplish anything in regards to quelling this type of hate speech, and I think broader hate speech laws would be really easy to abuse in the wrong hands.
I don't have anything against branding neonazi as a terrorist group perse, I'm just not sure that will do a single goddamn thing to stop them
You don't need someone making a judgement call for banning these though:
That's celebrating genocide. Should be a crime.
Is he acknowledging or downplaying his role in spreading hate with this tasteless tweet?
I assume the latter; he has yet to come off as someone that will accept responsibility for his influences.
I agree. I just don't agree that singling out Nazis will actually accomplish anything in regards to quelling this type of hate speech, and I think broader hate speech laws would be really easy to abuse in the wrong hands.
I don't have anything against branding neonazi as a terrorist group perse, I'm just not sure that will do a single goddamn thing to stop them
"just wait for the old racists to die"The murder is 20 years old. 20. Born 1997. He is another white man that is too incompetent to do anything with his life that at the age of 20 he decides to take the gift of life away from other more compassionate and deserving individuals.
Scum. I hope he rots.
I agree. I just don't agree that singling out Nazis will actually accomplish anything in regards to quelling this type of hate speech, and I think broader hate speech laws would be really easy to abuse in the wrong hands.
I don't have anything against branding neonazi as a terrorist group perse, I'm just not sure that will do a single goddamn thing to stop them
Growing up in France, we're taught from childhood that fuckin nazis are your worst ennemy. I can't understand how they have the right to even assemble. All of you defending their right to free speech are fools. Hate speech is not compatible with civilisation.
"just wait for the old racists to die"
Twitter and reddit need to take a fucking stand and get rid of Donald on Twitter and get rid of any white nationalist subscribing threads on reddit. It would be a good PR move and I think would actually net them positive new users.
Along with the entire Republican party fostering the growth of this shit and normalizing it. Only to come out now and clutch pearls.
Yeah, it was going to be that or some GamerGate nonsense. And no, this isn't where you go for the middle you fucking fool. Going for the middle is, like, whether they should spend more on the parks, or the libraries.He was referring to Jontron's white supremacist tweets
"just wait for the old racists to die"
Funny, I was hearing that 20 years ago too.
No, the government does. Not sure what fantasy planet you are living on. Still haven't told me what your Jim Crow comment is referring to.
Again, I have no problems with naming the nazis a terrorist organization in and of itself, but I honestly don't think specifically calling them out will actually change anything either
How ridiculous is the argument about "we must stick to our principles no matter how poorly they work in practice because those principles will defend us when the wrong people raise to power" in a world where Trump is POTUS and with everything that is happening these days in Charlottesville.
This is the same with that argument about the checks and balances.
He is taking a sarcastic shot at people who called him a Nazi
He saw a news report about a racist rally and a terrorist attack and thought "hmmm, how does this relate to my brand, better use this opportunity to score points against my critics"
He's a really bad person and given how influential he is with so many young people I find myself hoping he forgets to look both ways next time he crosses the street
Why do you keep saying this when it has been constantly refuted? Broad hate speech laws have literally never ever been used to oppress people in democratic countries.
There are people who think BLM is a terrorist group. They're wrong of course, but what happens when you let someone make a judgement call and the person who makes it is one of those people? How do you guarantee that won't happen
Growing up in France, we're taught from childhood that fuckin nazis are your worst ennemy. I can't understand how they have the right to even assemble. All of you defending their right to free speech are fools. Hate speech is not compatible with civilisation.
Definition of democracy:
plural democracies
1a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy
Jim Crow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws
The United States government is run by white supremacists.
They show the swastika, they go to jail. Simples.
Again, I have no problems with naming the nazis a terrorist organization in and of itself, but I honestly don't think specifically calling them out will actually change anything either
Definition of democracy:
plural democracies
1a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy
Jim Crow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws
The United States government is run by white supremacists.
Because Americans think that freedom of speech somehow includes historically genocidal groups of people waving the exact same flag.
Wish we had more brutal reality taught in America, instead History classes tend to go over things in broad strokes.
Remember how the Nazis told Jewish women they'd get double rations if they were pregnant, then took them right to the furnaces?
Want those people to have free speech now?!
And when such a law passes, they'd just immediately rebrand and stop using swastikas. It does nothing to solve the underlying issues. Things like that will take time to become law, and that time will allow them to dodge the problem. And since you can't legally convict somebody of something they did before that act was made illegal, you end up changing nothing
You can apply this to literally any other terrorist organization
People of color for 150 years: "America is an intensely racist and fucked up country, y'all need to reign that shit in"
Everybody else: "Lol nah it's not that bad, you're exaggerating, besides you'll deal with it right?"
And now the powder keg has been built to the point where shit is going to explode and a lot more people are gonna die.
Is he acknowledging or downplaying his role in spreading hate with this tasteless tweet?
I assume the latter; he has yet to come off as someone that will accept responsibility for his influences.