I sure hope the jury gets to see it that way. Murder.
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Cincinnati braces for footage release in campus cop killing (Up: Murder charge)
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I sure hope the jury gets to see it that way. Murder.
onadesertedisland
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Only the protected class of police can kill without worry of legality if they simply state they fear for their life.
Gordon Shumway
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Honestly thought the initial footage was disturbing. This? This is just too fucking clear..I don't even want to see it again. Agreed. Murder..
The Technomancer
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Christ
This is the first time that I'm seriously doubting going to the U.S. as a tourist again. I'm not too keen on getting shouted at and this thing... no, just no.
DrForester
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So. Honest question.
How many people expect him to be found guilty? I don't think he will be found guilty even of Manslaughter.
How many people expect him to be found guilty? I don't think he will be found guilty even of Manslaughter.
It's an unknown. There are enough potential jurors out there that could be shown irrefutable evidence like this and still not convict. All they have to hear is "I feared for my life" and all bets are off at that point.
I have no faith in the average American to make a rational decision, but they do surprise me from time to time.
Crimson_Gold
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I feel like it'll be a plea deal. He'll get a light sentence and released in 3 years tops
I don't think this has been posted yet. Apparently the other cops on the scene aren't being charged: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-of-duboses-killing_55bbcd04e4b0b23e3ce2c9e2?
I guess they knew Tensing was going down at that point and decided to bail on him.
It depends on how successful the defense is at stacking the jury with idiot racists. The video is pretty damning though. I don't think we'll see a repeat of the Zimmerman case, but I highly doubt Tensing gets life (which is what he deserves).
I guess they knew Tensing was going down at that point and decided to bail on him.
It depends on how successful the defense is at stacking the jury with idiot racists. The video is pretty damning though. I don't think we'll see a repeat of the Zimmerman case, but I highly doubt Tensing gets life (which is what he deserves).
A Link to the Past
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Has a cop ever been convicted of murder for something they did in the capacity of a cop?
Thats the weirdest thing about this incident to me - how quickly he was turned on.
A Link to the Past
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Perhaps the police are starting to witness a shift in tides? I know that I would be really mindful of when the blue line started to blur if I was a cop.
Like, I hope they're responding to everything that's happening, but I can't muster a whole lot of faith behind that idea, given, you know... everything that continues to happen.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Damn. The angle and height of the gun, as well as his arm placement, tell a completely damning story.
Yeah. Disgusting and sad are the words that come to mind. Murderer.
And we STILL have people defending the cop?
The cop could have heartily chuckled a crass one-liner, put out a lit cigarette on the victim's forehead, blew his head off with a sawed-off shotgun, defecated on the still warm corpse, and people would still defend the cop. There are no limits for what Americans will defend LEOs from.
They are our honorable protectors and servants. The man was just doing his job, goddamnit!@!@$
you know...
shooting black dudes.
anyway, people will stand up for them with all the Facebook likes and small donations necessary. Doesn't even need to be a cop. Just a "legal minded" white man with a gun, defending justice.
Punchy4486
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Looking at the background also makes it clear that the car didn't move until the moment of the shooting. And you can clearly see the driver putting his hands up in surrender.
This dude is such a fucking scumbag.
Crimson_Gold
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He has an agenda. His behavior shows that he should not be an officer. His prejudice prevents him from doing that job properly
Quoting for posterity. So people can be reminded of what a douchebag Tensing is.
You'll probably hear:
- the car was moving.
- He was fleeing, it was better to stop him then than have a police chase
- the car was moving
- He was being dragged.
- the car was moving.
- The police guy thought he saw a gun in the backseat seat and thought he was reaching.
This is just my opinion.
What I'm trying to say the car point will probably be the main focus during the trial. I think.
I don't think so. America is by and large really anti-smoking, so I can see the pitchforks coming out at that.
The stabilized video says it all. I can't believe someone agree to be the defense lawyer for this guy after watching the video. The victim has his one hand on the steering wheel and the other in the air. The cop reaches in for a second, aims the gun and shoots. All because of a license plate and that the victim didn't immediately remove his seat belt.
Why did the cop want him to take his seat belt off so badly! So he could drag the guy out and beat him on the ground?
Why did the cop want him to take his seat belt off so badly! So he could drag the guy out and beat him on the ground?
Gordon Shumway
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I doubt Trump agrees..
Well, I always thought that (and anybody with actual lawyer knowledge can chime in and call my bullshit) being a defense lawyer for extremely obvious situations like this is still a good thing, because it forces the court to have their shit together and the prosecutor still has to do his homework and build a conclusive case to sentence him. It's a process that shouldn't be thrown out for things even like this, because once that's broken this might affect actually innocent defendants who appear guilty at first glance.
Of course one could argue that this phenomenon happens a lot with corruption anyway, but it's the principle.
(IMO, upon reading his statements, the defense lawyer just seems like a dickbag who actually thinks what this guy did is ok.)
In this area? They'll likely have enough jurors to convict on manslaughter I think. Murder will be a lot harder. There's a decent mix of political and ideological views here on both sides.
I honestly expect the case to end with a plea deal for Manslaughter and a chance at parole in so many years.
Driving down in that area, I realized how freaked out I would be now if a cop pulled me over down there. As a white guy who has never been pulled over before, and has met a lot of the Cincinnati PD officers who are very nice and courteous to me, I think I would still fear for my life in that situation.
Chie Satonaka
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Career before anything else. I guarantee that's what they were most worried about. They saw the writing on the wall and didn't want to jeopardize their pensions. The same mentality every careerist asshole has no matter what field they're in. God knows they wouldn't have done shit for jail time.
I do and he'll be made an example of.
If not then I don't see how all hell doesn't break loose. There's video evidence of a cop execution another human. If he gets off free they're basically saying it's legal to murder black people.
and then on top of that it would also say cops have free reign to execute. that shit isn't gonna fly. it can't
SapientWolf
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If the car was moving that guy wouldn't have been able to line up a head shot. And if his life was in danger he shouldn't have been wasting time lining up a head shot. He has no case.
Beer Monkey
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I've lived in Cincinnati for almost 30 years (11 years in Clifton where this happened) and I find this a little hyperbolic.
Because I'm white, though.
Tonight there was a protest march that rolled through Fountain Square after a while (the concert was temporarily suspended). I found it interesting how many people on Facebook were saying tensions were high. I was there, and didn't feel tense.
Seriously, though. Dozens and dozens of black people and white people. The four people wearing masks (three of them were wearing Guy Fawkes masks, and they were all white males), know this: You are silly douchebags. Fuck you.
To the rest of the protesters, I support you.
Apparently the Justice Dept put out a warning that the US military and by extension the US police force have been infiltrated by white supremacist group members. 10 or so years ago they started organizing to join the military and after getting out a lot of them join the force and the government isn't sure what they're up to, but the've stated watch lists to weed out police force applicants with ties to people who are in racist organizations.
http://thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/
He was fucking hold him by the shirt holy shit
As I posted earlier in this thread I saw first hand what people will defend. Needless to say it was absolutely disgusting.
Also that vid throws their stupid argument out the window and yet I think my friend's or should I say now acquaintance's family would still go through a tremendous amount of mental gymnastics to defend the cop
. Like how I was also told people are guilty until proven innocent.A Link to the Past
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I thought you were going for "and a jury would still find them not guilty", but yes, you're right. Give Charles Manson a badge and he'd suddenly be an American hero or some shit. People would refer to his comments about a coming race war and say "finally, an officer not afraid to say what we're all thinking!"
Damn, that's just ridiculous.
Damn that video of him pulling the two guys over for nothing really says of all. You can see on his face just how uncomfortable he is relinquishing any power whatsoever to a black man. Once again opening the car door without any warning or right (this time on the passenger side).
Seriously fuck this racist psychopathic piece of shit. Drop his ass in prison for good.
Seriously fuck this racist psychopathic piece of shit. Drop his ass in prison for good.
Typical. I'm I don't know what we have to do at this point for change. How many more videos does it take?
CadetMahoney
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Just more evidence about what happens that some ppl still downplay.
Oh it is murder alright. But many Americans support this type of murder.
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