The barbarians are fucking relentless in higher difficulties. They get beaten easily but the fuckers are always buzzing around breaking my balls. It's barely 120 BC and I have destroyed more camps than I can remember. Ironically, I'm spending my ass off on my army and the loot from the camps is the only thing that keeps my economy going. And this was the game where I was supposed to not be a bloodthirsty monster for once and go for a diplomatic victory. Such is life.
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Civilization V Brave New World |OT| More than Content Tourism
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Main reason why I like playing as Askia (UA is you get triple the money from barb camps).
Psychoward
Banned
Is there a better way to protect caravans and cargo ships than manually moving units around? Because my military units can't even keep up with them. I would have thought there was a follow button or something, but alas.
I will sometimes station a unit in the middle of their route if it's in the early game and barbarians are an actual thread.
Later on, once most of the territory is settle, I don'y really bother.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Definitely Babylon for the Great Library free tech/free great scientist. Use the scientist to improve a tile to an academy.
Maybe Egypt?
Human_Shield
Member
If you're on the freedom path, Treaty Organizations is a good way to turn city-states back from Alexander's influence. Just start sending all your trade units to city states and watch the free influence roll on in, and keep rotating amongst all of them until they flip to Ally. I just finished a game against Alexander, and most of his allied city-states were only being held onto by a small amount of influence.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Random question, since this is the active Civ thread nowadays - is it worth upgrading to the Gold edition for all that DLC? Specifically for the maps and scenarios.
I've always found Pangea map types always have less barbs because of the civ crowding.
Oh, and I won my tourism game that I posted above earlier.
Hell yes it is!
I would recommend it, lots of great civs added in GaK (Carthage in particular is one of my favourites).
I feel like it's impossible to win on Prince. I can never keep up with the other nations as far as score goes, and I was close to getting a diplomatic victory but I tied Brazil on the number of votes and they won. Any tips? I usually make about 3 cities and the last game I was France and focused on culture and science.
Yeah Prince is very hard for people new to Civ. I have a tough time with it, especially if you don't micromanage every single detail.
Do not pay attention to the score. Early on it's distorted by the AI's expansionism, which can only be countered with ancient and classical era warfare. Catapults are your friend.
Anyone had weird game freezes in the last few days? I've been playing a ton since the expansion came out and had no trouble. But then in the last two days I've had the game freeze up in two completely different games. Going back to an earlier save didn't seem to help, it would freeze again on the same year (different years for each game though). It sucks to have to start over from the beginning.
Pick a victory type and plan it out. Keep an eye on the tech tree and learn it so you can rush the techs, wonders, buildings, and units you might need.
Yeah I play on quick turns and standard size maps and have played 3-4 matches this week. Definitely a learning curve. I think I prefer cultural/scientific strategies though. I tried germany and was able to take some cities but got stalled defending against zulu impis for about 100 years. At least I understand the mechanics better now. Are there any techs/wonders you should prioritize?
Finally, the barbarians gave me some time to breathe. I got my shit together quickly. Now gold is coming out of my ass. I'm generating culture like crazy. Tourism picked up too. Everyone but Alexander is begging to be my friend. Begging for gold and luxury goods too. And I happily oblige. If Greece doesn't pull some shit by the time World Congress is up I'll have some good headway for a diplomatic victory. Maybe I should be proactive and have my new friends take Greece out. We'll see.
hypersheep
Member
You should prioritize philosophy for the National College and Education for Research Agreements. And I think on Prince you should be able to get Great Library if you want to (but that prospect is increasingly unlikely on higher difficulties).
They upgrade roads to railroads even when replacing improvements is off. This is annoying because railroads cost 3gpt instead of 1gpt.
Is this only on higher difficulties? They're 2gpt on Prince.
weekend_warrior
Banned
CyclopsRock
Member
Alright, take that Napoleon you utter CUNT. What the hell is wrong with you, you goddamn idiot? I'm VENICE you moron. You started this. I'm razing you to the ground.
Let your hate flow through you.
hypersheep
Member
Does anyone know if Korea still receives the science bonus for landmarks?
WTF, games of Civ 5 take so god damn long and I finally just finished one with a Standard-sized map.. and I didn't get at least 3 of the achievements I should have received. What options do I have to make sure it registers my victory conditions?
I should have received at least 3 (won via Wu, won a Standard-sized map and won as Settler difficulty.
I should have received at least 3 (won via Wu, won a Standard-sized map and won as Settler difficulty.
Most of it. There's something gratifying about reducing them to a rump state that can barely defend itself.When you guys declare war or get declared on, do you fuck up all of the other person's shit?
Or just most of it
Herbert Moon
Neo Member
Just picked up BNW and G&K after not playing Civ V for over a year. Feels like I need to relearn a lot of mechanics, on top of trying to learn all the new stuff from the expansions.
One thing I'm never quite sure of is when to settle new cities, and how many total cities I should be controlling.
I guess it depends on what civ you are playing, and what victory conditions you are going after? Because as I understand it, each new city you settle causes the amount of culture you need for social policies to go up, correct?
One thing I'm never quite sure of is when to settle new cities, and how many total cities I should be controlling.
I guess it depends on what civ you are playing, and what victory conditions you are going after? Because as I understand it, each new city you settle causes the amount of culture you need for social policies to go up, correct?
On a standard map, for culture victory, I stay at 2 cities. For all the others, I settle whenever I have the happyness for it until I reach the Industrial era. Then I stop settling.
And you are right about social policies.
Fragamemnon
Member
Stash away a save game and try it again in a couple of weeks or after the next patch.
edgardavids
Member
are you getting achievements from the base game? Their july patch caused all kinds of issues with them not popping up. Their working on something to amend that atm.
Wow seriously? 2 cities for the entire game? I've yet to try to win culturally but it sounds like most of the tourism stuff comes in very late game, what do you do for the 200 turns before that?
Yeah, these would have all been base achievements. China may have been G&K.. can't recall.
This is true, but I like all the little wonder movies ;ORemember, the wonders you miss, you can conquer.
Forreal? Damn, didn't realize.
weekend_warrior
Banned
I understand that, but they need to nerf how quickly the AI can build wonders on higher difficulties without nerfing their other bonuses because never being able to build wonders yourself is a big problem.
Depends. The most important thing to consider is if you can overcome the unhappiness it will create, because if you can't it's usually not worth it. After that you have to decide if your first city has enough untapped resources that you don't want to split the worker force, if there are any strategic resources that you need to wait to pop so you can settle next to them (iron usually), if you need to block another civ from settling a spot, or if you can just capture a city instead.
For me personally 3 cities is usually my minimum for culture/diplomacy (I play on small maps). Any fewer and I don't feel like a production and resource acquisition is good enough. For war mongering you can go pretty big, you'll be fighting unhappiness a lot but usually the resources you get make up for it. I think I've gone as big as 8 or 9 on a small map. The game get very confusing at that point though, turns slow to a crawl. I like to stay around 5 for most games.
Wonders, including the cheap national ones, great people, trade routes and I accumulate city-states as allies over time (so that if a tourism race seems impossible, I can bribe my way to a congress win).
With trade routes, going few cities like is so much more viable, because everyone have the exact same 7-8 trade routes, but they have to pay a shitload of stuff on maintenance while you don't. My last game, I had 10k in gold before turn 400 when I won. If you do enough wonders, this means other civs aren't doing them and so your tourism won't have that much to overcome.