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Civilization V Brave New World |OT| More than Content Tourism
- Thread starter Fragamemnon
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It used to be worse, the AI was made originally to be "another player", meaning that they would try to win the game at all costs and would never help you without that goal in mind.
It roleplays more now, but that's still the core of its behavior.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's funny how I used to be a warmongering asshole.
Now, with BNW, I want to be a shining beacon of hope for the world, as they fall before my onslaught of tourism and culture.
Now, with BNW, I want to be a shining beacon of hope for the world, as they fall before my onslaught of tourism and culture.
Psychoward
Banned
What I usually do is go for a peaceful victory but anytime someone crosses me or attacks me I wipe them out, no mercy. This tends to happen quite often since the AI almost inevitably betrays me in the early moments in the game.
I had the most peaceful game of Civ ever going until last night when I hit around 1940 AD and Germany randomly decides to attack one of my protected CSs. Next thing I know, Austria is calling me up to surprise attack Germany. I go for it and all the sudden Alexander, my oldest friend, denounces me and everyone in turn denounces him. It feels like a WWII was coded in to start at 1940 because my world politics used to be friendly for everyone except Egypt, and now it's mulitple wars and betrayal all over the place. Good thing I'm the only one with subs on this archipelago map 
I had the most peaceful game of Civ ever going until last night when I hit around 1940 AD and Germany randomly decides to attack one of my protected CSs. Next thing I know, Austria is calling me up to surprise attack Germany. I go for it and all the sudden Alexander, my oldest friend, denounces me and everyone in turn denounces him. It feels like a WWII was coded in to start at 1940 because my world politics used to be friendly for everyone except Egypt, and now it's mulitple wars and betrayal all over the place. Good thing I'm the only one with subs on this archipelago map
That actually sounds pretty cool !
lol, you've become a cultural warmonger.
Well, I enjoy that I can get another civ to vote me for world congress, however expensive it is, so it's nice that the AI have room to say "all right, you have gold and resources up the ass, I'll give you the win"
"I'm here Tetsuo, and i already created clones of me. We are taking down the internet, and then the world. I'm a part of the system now, come with me and join my force in the wires."
Holy shit, you created a monster.
What MP mode would you suggest for Civ V? When all my buds lived together, we played Civ 4 on hot seat mode, but now we are more spread out. I have 0 experience in the other modes btw.
marvelharvey
Member
This was one of the few good aspects of Civ Rev. As you approached victory, the whole world would declare war on you (on Deity anyway).
Psychoward
Banned
Picked this up today, I want to have a decently sized trading focused civ. would Portugal or Morocco be the better bet? Morocco's bonus seems better suited for multiplayer, or do AIs want to have more trade routes with you?
Fragamemnon
Member
Morocco is better thematically at can have a lot of fun desert-oriented builds at Emperor and below. Portugal is a better all-around trading Civ.
Venice is just weird.
This Isabella game is just retarded. The AI is stuck in Modern era even past turn 300. They tech so much worse on continents vs. pangaea.
Venice is just weird.
This Isabella game is just retarded. The AI is stuck in Modern era even past turn 300. They tech so much worse on continents vs. pangaea.
Psychoward
Banned
Yeah Morocco seems nice, my first city didn't have a single desert tile but where I'm planning to build my 2nd and 3rd cities, they both have desert tiles in abundance. I'm just hoping Sweden or the Netherlands don't take it over first.
I'll also echo everyone else and say I'm pretty taken aback by the amount of options in the early game. I have no idea what I'm doing, in a good way. Can someone please explain how Great Works well, work?
I'll also echo everyone else and say I'm pretty taken aback by the amount of options in the early game. I have no idea what I'm doing, in a good way. Can someone please explain how Great Works well, work?
sssstententen
Member
Been playing at Prince and King alot (Normal and Hard-Normal) and its not that bad.
I just hate games where the difficulty scales by letting the AI cheat, not through just smarter or more brutal AI. Obviously its difficult for them to make the game harder otherwise, but having AI that can outbuild you no matter what/etc infuriates me.
That said, are the harder difficulties super unfair feeling? Or is it actually pretty well done?
I just hate games where the difficulty scales by letting the AI cheat, not through just smarter or more brutal AI. Obviously its difficult for them to make the game harder otherwise, but having AI that can outbuild you no matter what/etc infuriates me.
That said, are the harder difficulties super unfair feeling? Or is it actually pretty well done?
Fragamemnon
Member
They are super unfair, especially at the top two difficulties. At the highest levels, your opponents literally will be working 15 tiles combined off two cities while you struggle to work five and produce your first settler in your capital.
However, they are pretty good at producing interesting games. That's really the measure of an AI in a game like Civ-do all of the unfair bonuses and free stuff they get make the game more interesting for experienced players? Answer is definitely yes.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
First one in the game with a nuke, suddenly everyone is afraid and guarded with me.
That's a neat feature. It never happened to me before.
366 tourism per turn(?) with Carnival! for 15 turns with Brazil. Anyone who wasn't under my influence certainly will be soon.
That's a neat feature. It never happened to me before.
366 tourism per turn(?) with Carnival! for 15 turns with Brazil. Anyone who wasn't under my influence certainly will be soon.
Psychoward
Banned
So if a trade route gets plundered are you just screwed? I also am still really shaky on Great Works and Tourism.
I mean you can build or buy another one. You still have the route you just no longer have the unit to complete it.
As for tourism and great works you gotta play around with both. Pick a civ ideal for it like France, Venice, or Brazil.
Fragamemnon
Member
The lower difficulty levels are really more of a sandbox historical pseudo-simulator than a competitive game. Check out Prince if you are new to the series and looking for the game to start giving you some pushback.
Open as many borders as you can, get all your spies spreading propaganda as Diplomats, maximize your great work bonuses, and continue churning out Great Musicians you can concert bomb with.
BigJonsson
Member
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Sounds fine to me, yo.
marvelharvey
Member
1000x Mongolia. Their unique unit is so overpowered that you can decimate your opponents and win the game before needing oil.
I usually wage war way before I get access to Oil. Usually between Classic and Medieval.
In Civ, the earlier you can start doing something, the more benefits you'll gain from it and there's few leaders that can dominate the mid-game like Genghis.
In Civ, the earlier you can start doing something, the more benefits you'll gain from it and there's few leaders that can dominate the mid-game like Genghis.
One Foul Note
Member
Mongolia, given how trade focused Arabia are I don't really consider them a wartime civ although both civs unique units are stupidly powerful. The Huns are also really worth considering, no one can obliterate cities quite like them although their strength is very early game focused so you need to strike fast with them.
You are a difficulty below your awesome level.
Kill\Buy city states. Have everyone declare war on him, if he has Globalization.
Psychoward
Banned
Yeah I just meant short term screwed because of how long Caravans and Cargo Ships take to build. Oh well, I should have known better. It seems to me though that trade routes should be fairly low priority for the Ancient and early Classical era at least. The bonuses aren't good enough when you need to build your cities and army up.
Also, as for Tourism/Global Works I meant I'm still kind of confused by how they work, Great Works especially. I think I just need to play more.
Calavera520
Member
Venice makes the diplomatic victory super easy. Just get in bed with all the city states through the merchants of venice, make sure to build the Forbidden City wonder (two delegates) and your golden on the world congress/united nations.
I feel like a diplomatic victory is stupid easy playing as anybody. It just requires a lot of money...