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CoD Black Ops |OT| Always Bet On Black
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itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
CartridgeBlower said:
I haven't unlocked all weapons yet (I'm at lvl 28, I think) but so far the Enfield is my favourite weapon.
CartridgeBlower
Member
itsinmyveins said:
It's by far my worst. Every time I find a different gun on the floor in MP and I pick it up, I ALWAYS do better with it. Shockingly so. I'm only lv. 12 now so most of the guns are still locked. But if I grab an aug or a famas off the floor, my k/d skyrockets.
I guess different strokes for different folks...
itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
CartridgeBlower said:
Yupp. I've got Famas unlocked but always go with the Enfield anyway, along with dual mags and reflex sights. Maybe I've just gotten used to it, but to me it feels a lot like an equivalent to the M4 in MW2 (my weapon of choice along with the ACR in that game).
By the way, what's the actual difference between the reflex sight and red dot?
RebornYeti
Member
Ramirez said:
Yeah, no doubt. I really hope they can fix them.
This is my first major COD game in many many years. I honestly don't get the appeal of multiplayer, it's the most spammy, annoying and dull thing i've played in a long time. It all seems so pointless.
I really wish i understood why people love it, I just don't get it :lol
I really wish i understood why people love it, I just don't get it :lol
Vigilant Walrus
Member
The_Inquisitor said:
Is it? Are you sure?
_Alkaline_
Member
Hardcore TDM is about as fun as gouging your eyes out. It's tedious, full of campers and horribly slow.
Hardcore Search, on the other hand, is wonderful.
Hardcore Search, on the other hand, is wonderful.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Tokubetsu said:
I can imagine it being good in hardcore modes. But in core, having to put nearly two whole bursts into someone means that 1-on-1 you're going to get killed by the guy with the automatic every time.
FleckSplat
Member
So yesterday Steam told me it had "finished downloading Call of Duty: Black Ops." Does this mean there was a patch?
_Alkaline_
Member
LabouredSubterfuge said:
Absolutely, and the lag in this game makes it even worse than normal. M16 in a close firefight loses almost every time.
From afar it's still pretty good though, given the lack of recoil.
here's a quick video I did where I had two cool drop shots on nuke town 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhhgt8JXL_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhhgt8JXL_4
ZombieSupaStar
Member
yeah patch last night, game runs alot smoother for me.
Some impressions from a Treyarch fanboy and someone who used to play competitive CoD:
Pros
- Good map design for the most part. I like how players can now interact with the map (like close doors) and how maps are different in different game types (big maps become smaller in Wager Matches).
- Balanced perks/killstreaks. Despite what people say about the RC Car, 1) it's not even a guaranteed kill 2) player is completely vulnerable during the duration of the killstreak, 3) it is one of the best anti-camping tools in the game, 4) it can be shot down, 5) it is countered by flack jacket, and 6) UAV gives a much higher probability for more team kills than the RC Car.
- Interesting new additions to the game (Wager Matches, new zombie modes + minigame, new mechanics on killstreak interaction, many easter eggs)
- Decision to make the game anti-noob, anti-annoying, and anti-camper by removing abusable things.
- Less aim-assist.
Cons (overall there's a pretty massive list)
- Horrible, HORRIBLE spawn system. Is it worse than MW2 or other iterations? Maybe not. I've seen equally bad spawns in MW2 and I believe spawning was patched in 4/5 as well. However, several times per game I can't walk five steps from my spawn without encountering an enemy. I've never been shot in the back so many times before.
- Guns are unbelievably weak. What's most frustrating about this is that ARs are unbelievably strong in comparison to the other classes. Snipers were toned down (can't really do offensive rush sniping anymore). Shotguns were toned down (only excel at near knife range). SMGs were toned down (not even great CQC weapons anymore; they are either too weak or have too high of a recoil at too close of a range). LMGs aren't too bad so far IMO, but I have rarely used them. But anyway- guns (mainly SMGs) are so weak that if a person is still several feet from a corner, I'm scared to shoot at them because they'll get away and I'll give up my position. I've never had this problem in previous CoDs. Also, even at close range SMGs are losing to ARs. If this were to be the case, why even put SMGs in the game? They are not significantly better at CQC than ARs. It's debatable as to whether they're even better at all in CQC.
- If you're going to be "anti-camping" then at least fully commit to it by having SMGs be the strongest weapon class (like in WaW). If SMGs are strongest, then you promote running and gunning. If ARs are the strongest, it's perfectly feasible to just hole yourself up somewhere with a long (or short) range of sight and completely dominate any range.
-Netcode also needs work. Bad lag in this game is less noticeable up until the game starts to stutter, but more rage-inducing because you never know when you'll lose a gun-battle where you have a complete advantage just because you're lagging.
- Snipers are not very fun right now. I would rather not like to hide somewhere in a bush just so I can have time to position my scope and shoot a guy. I'm more of a "we see each other at the same time" kind of guy and I'll duck under the window frame, peak my head up, aim, and shoot, then repeat until the guy is dead. This is made much harder with the whole anti-quickscoping movement. It's much less annoying to get quickscoped by someone who scoped in, saw me, and then shot, than someone who's hiding in a bush and shooting my in the back when I run past their ghost pro body.
Pros
- Good map design for the most part. I like how players can now interact with the map (like close doors) and how maps are different in different game types (big maps become smaller in Wager Matches).
- Balanced perks/killstreaks. Despite what people say about the RC Car, 1) it's not even a guaranteed kill 2) player is completely vulnerable during the duration of the killstreak, 3) it is one of the best anti-camping tools in the game, 4) it can be shot down, 5) it is countered by flack jacket, and 6) UAV gives a much higher probability for more team kills than the RC Car.
- Interesting new additions to the game (Wager Matches, new zombie modes + minigame, new mechanics on killstreak interaction, many easter eggs)
- Decision to make the game anti-noob, anti-annoying, and anti-camper by removing abusable things.
- Less aim-assist.
Cons (overall there's a pretty massive list)
- Horrible, HORRIBLE spawn system. Is it worse than MW2 or other iterations? Maybe not. I've seen equally bad spawns in MW2 and I believe spawning was patched in 4/5 as well. However, several times per game I can't walk five steps from my spawn without encountering an enemy. I've never been shot in the back so many times before.
- Guns are unbelievably weak. What's most frustrating about this is that ARs are unbelievably strong in comparison to the other classes. Snipers were toned down (can't really do offensive rush sniping anymore). Shotguns were toned down (only excel at near knife range). SMGs were toned down (not even great CQC weapons anymore; they are either too weak or have too high of a recoil at too close of a range). LMGs aren't too bad so far IMO, but I have rarely used them. But anyway- guns (mainly SMGs) are so weak that if a person is still several feet from a corner, I'm scared to shoot at them because they'll get away and I'll give up my position. I've never had this problem in previous CoDs. Also, even at close range SMGs are losing to ARs. If this were to be the case, why even put SMGs in the game? They are not significantly better at CQC than ARs. It's debatable as to whether they're even better at all in CQC.
- If you're going to be "anti-camping" then at least fully commit to it by having SMGs be the strongest weapon class (like in WaW). If SMGs are strongest, then you promote running and gunning. If ARs are the strongest, it's perfectly feasible to just hole yourself up somewhere with a long (or short) range of sight and completely dominate any range.
-Netcode also needs work. Bad lag in this game is less noticeable up until the game starts to stutter, but more rage-inducing because you never know when you'll lose a gun-battle where you have a complete advantage just because you're lagging.
- Snipers are not very fun right now. I would rather not like to hide somewhere in a bush just so I can have time to position my scope and shoot a guy. I'm more of a "we see each other at the same time" kind of guy and I'll duck under the window frame, peak my head up, aim, and shoot, then repeat until the guy is dead. This is made much harder with the whole anti-quickscoping movement. It's much less annoying to get quickscoped by someone who scoped in, saw me, and then shot, than someone who's hiding in a bush and shooting my in the back when I run past their ghost pro body.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Yes.FleckSplat said:
Also there's evidence of the horrible spawning at the end of the vid...natedog4000 said:here's a quick video I did where I had two cool drop shots on nuke town
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhhgt8JXL_4
I cant seem to upgrade my ammo during Zombie mode, do I hold X to upgrade the ammo? as it does not seem to work.
*edit* Oh and I agree the spawning system is awful, enemies spawn behind you way too often, or you spawn next to a group of enemies *edit*
*edit* Oh and I agree the spawning system is awful, enemies spawn behind you way too often, or you spawn next to a group of enemies *edit*
Somnium986
Member
Short clip of a FFA game I had earlier today. Took forever to show up on the COD site. Pretty awesome feature though. The emblem that shows up in the vid is not mine. Don't know what happened there.
Rolling Thunder
Rolling Thunder
deathberry
Neo Member
Jesus how do I get to that objective (only 30ish meters away) in that mission where u have to defeat the advancing NAV line?! I keep on dying every time I get near the trench line.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
deathberry said:
Somnium986
Member
deathberry said:
There are barrels scattered around the area. Push each one and you'll advance.
:lol :lol :lol :lolLabouredSubterfuge said:
deathberry said:
Is it Vietnam mission? The only bad place in the game so far. I advanced to the point somehow, it switched 30 meters left, then I retreated, cut the corner and ran to checkpoint. But it's better than The Mansion in MW2 which I wasn't able to complete at all.
Just got my first chopper gunner on Nuketown. It was exhilirating to just turn the tide of the game completely and send the other team scrambling for cover. Definitely way more fun than the MW2 chopper gunner, where I can barely tell what the hell the map is and I just hunt for red dots.
I got it by playing "get out of my house" with the M60 and the aid of a motion sensor. I think I'm in love with both of those now.
I got it by playing "get out of my house" with the M60 and the aid of a motion sensor. I think I'm in love with both of those now.
Always-honest
Banned
Somnium986 said:
WHAT?? you had to do that??... fucking hell, that level made me turn down the difficulty.
And in the end i made it without doing what you said........