The only thing you need to know us that the best conferences don't have divisions--they play round robin schedules.
It has been shown that round robin scheduling is the only true way to determine a conference champion.
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It has been shown that round robin scheduling is the only true way to determine a conference champion.
zyxwvu4321
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Not sure what exactly what level of detail you're wanting, so I'll just go from the top down.
Virtually all discussion here is about NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS, formerly known as 1-A). The champion here is determined by a 1-game playoff between the two highest ranked teams, as determined by a combination of human polls and computer-generated rankings. After that one game, there's like 35 bowl games, which are kinda glorified exhibition games.
The biggest of the bowl games are the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) games, which are the Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, Rose Bowls, and the BCS National Championship game.
So moving more toward divisions for you: Included in NCAA FBS are 11(?) conferences, which is the basic organizational unit, and a handful of Independent teams. Of those conferences, 6 are designated as BCS Automatic Qualifiers, which means that the champion of those conferences get automatically invited to one of those BCS games I mentioned, while any other team from any conference can be invited as one of the 4 BCS at-large teams should they meet a certain criteria.
And for divisions specifically: Some of those 11 conferences have too many teams to play a round robin during the season, so they split into 2 divisions. In these conferences, the two teams that win their division go on to meet in the conference championship game. The winner of that game is considered the conference champion.
Edit: That's probably way more than you wanted, heh.
ConfusingJazz
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PAC 12 sold their soul to the devil for 12 pieces of silver.
The Big XII got the 12 pieces of silver the true and honest way, by selling off our infected tonsils and appendix.
Nope, that's perfect, thanks a lot !
You think Bama will win by more?
I was giving Michigan the Bama goes into conservative mode after the second half begins benefit there.
I picked Bama by 14, so I have no problem with your pick.
Nuticus - Just making sure that the Andy that you have on your spreadsheet that picked UGA is me. Maybe there's another Andy that likes UGA's chances, that would be something.
bucknuticus
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(THU) South Carolina by 16
(THU) Texas A&M by 12
(THU) Washington State by 9
(FRI) NC State by 10
(FRI) Michigan State by 13
Notre Dame by 6
Penn State by 8
Northwestern by 6
California by 12
Miami by 13
Clemson by 17
Alabama by 11
Washington by 20
(SUN) Louisville by 15
(MON) Virginia Tech by 10
(THU) Texas A&M by 12
(THU) Washington State by 9
(FRI) NC State by 10
(FRI) Michigan State by 13
Notre Dame by 6
Penn State by 8
Northwestern by 6
California by 12
Miami by 13
Clemson by 17
Alabama by 11
Washington by 20
(SUN) Louisville by 15
(MON) Virginia Tech by 10
bucknuticus
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Damn, why dont you just change every pick you already had in the spreadsheet.
Changing my SEC east pick to USCe. Bama remains conference champ.
No pickem for me (natch) but I'll enter your little conference winners deal I suppose.
ACC: FSU
-Coastal: Va Tech
-Atlantic: FSU
Big 12: Oklahoma
B1G: Michigan
-Legends: Michigan
-Leaders: Wisconsin
Big East: Pittsburgh
PAC12: Oregon
-North: Oregon
-South: USC
SEC: Alabama
-East: Georgia
-West: Alabama
BCS Game: FSU v. Alabama
Winner: FSU
Going all in!
ACC: FSU
-Coastal: Va Tech
-Atlantic: FSU
Big 12: Oklahoma
B1G: Michigan
-Legends: Michigan
-Leaders: Wisconsin
Big East: Pittsburgh
PAC12: Oregon
-North: Oregon
-South: USC
SEC: Alabama
-East: Georgia
-West: Alabama
BCS Game: FSU v. Alabama
Winner: FSU
Going all in!
ACC: Va Tech
-Coastal: Va Tech
-Atlantic: FSU
Big 12: Tejas
B1G: Michigan
-Legends: Michigan
-Leaders: Wisconsin
Big East: Louisville
PAC12: USC
-North: Oregon
-South: USC
SEC: LSU
-East: Georgia
-West: LSU
BCS Game: LSU vs USC
Winner: LSU
If I actually knew this kind of shit I could make a ton of money.
-Coastal: Va Tech
-Atlantic: FSU
Big 12: Tejas
B1G: Michigan
-Legends: Michigan
-Leaders: Wisconsin
Big East: Louisville
PAC12: USC
-North: Oregon
-South: USC
SEC: LSU
-East: Georgia
-West: LSU
BCS Game: LSU vs USC
Winner: LSU
If I actually knew this kind of shit I could make a ton of money.
vas_a_morir
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I don't understand why these people on ESPN (I know) keep saying that the current/old BCS system favors the SEC. I actually think if they have a playoff, the SEC will win even more. it's not like any other team has beat them in the National Title game.
Could do with the self-fulfilling hype machine. Many pundits see the SEC as first among equals, so an undefeated SEC team is assumed better than all other undefeated teams, and the same for 1-loss teams. Under the current framework, it would be very tough to pick two teams that aren't in the SEC. I don't know if 2005 would repeat itself nowadays, even with big names like USC and Texas over an undefeated Auburn. With the new system, you have to win twice, and when looking at the top tier of competition, that will always be (at least statistically) harder.
It's easier to win one game than two.
Ah, I failed to notice that I was already in there. Just did a quick scan for my name.
Anyway, my old picks were joke picks. These are only sort of joke picks.
zyxwvu4321
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Right now, it kinda depends on how heavily the human polls are weighted when selecting the playoff teams. With the current setup, and due in large part to those people on ESPN, the SEC get such a huge benefit of the doubt when it comes to any comparison. "Who is the better between these two teams?" "The one from the SEC." "Why?" "Because they play in the SEC."
Now that's not to say anything about the SEC team NOT being better, it's just that it's always assumed they the SEC team is better than a team with the same number, or even fewer, loses.
Of course, until someone beats them, there's only so much complaining that can be done.
Yeah it was more or less expected. His injury was about as bad as a leg injury can get. Fortunately he has been running sprints and everyone seems hopeful he will be able to make a return next year. Don't know if he will ever return to 8.1 YPC form, but I'm hopeful.
I never get these Simpsons references.
SyNapSe said:
Are they going to be able to field a full team this year? One blow after another.
Well Josey not playing has been assumed since last November. Our O-line is hurting but Meiners, who was injured last week, is expected to recover quickly and Pinkel seems to think he can be on the field for the UGA game. I doubt we are much worse off when it comes to losing players (be it through injuries, suspensions, dismissals, etc.) than most other schools in the country. I can only think of three guys who will miss the majority or all of the season, and only two of them were starters. Not good, but not all that uncommon really.
Chappell, one of those 2 o-linemen, wasn't a starter, although he was in the two-deep.
my man!
The problem is when you lose a couple of offensive linemen in a conference known for it's front 7. Mizzou may weather this just fine, but I'd be nervous if my team was missing a couple OL, even if one is a backup.
The biggest question for Mizzou is how well Franklin is and if he'll be able to take some hard shots this year and not have a re-injury.
I sort of had a bit of confidence in OU, but the line injuries are just too much. Maybe the incoming WRs will finally give them the big play ability they really haven't had for awhile. Still think WVU takes the conference. People dog on WVU's defense but it's not like the conference is all that great at that anyway. Lots of 5 hour shootouts, again
NEOPARADIGM
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bucknuticus
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Seriously. I will :jnc when they lose by 2 TDs anyway.
Let's be serious, this is the conference of Jim Tressel and Penn State.
:jnc
Not as innocent as they once were, huh?
Kind of funny to think that two years ago, this would've been the B1G response to accusations of shadiness.
Yep. At least we limit our violations to good ole harmless paying for players and/or involvement with agents.
I understand and am concerned for that reason, I just felt your characterization overstated our injury situation and gave the impression we had more serious injuries than we do. The only guy we lost that I feel has the potential to have a significant impact on our ability to compete is Josey, and we lost him so long ago that I really forget to account for him when looking forward to the season. That said losing depth is never good and I hate that we have lost some at such an important spot to have it.
A serious re-injury to Franklin's shoulder would unquestionably save us travel money come bowl season, but so far reports are that the surgery and time off have allowed him to actually heal other nagging injuries from last season as well as the labrum. He apparently has shown off a much better throwing motion as a result. So at least initially he appears to be at full health and strength.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I feel that my piss is gradually achieving marked increases in mean temperature as this week progresses.
Like this:
I still love seeing that picture and knowing that their suffering was all for naught since Tech scored a touchdown 4 plays later to win.
Lazy Man's Wallpaper
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You all may well be right, but I'd be surprised. We haven't been Akron or Eastern Michigan-level bad in a long time. Despite Solich's failures against BCS competition while at Ohio, I think it'll be competitive for at least a half.
MightyHealthy
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It's not that I think Ohio is that bad (or Penn St that good), it's what ChiTown said, derp fuel.
They've spent the better part of a year derping themselves up on how much the world hates on them and mistreats them for no fault of their own etc etc.
They'll go out there with all they've got and win one for the Tickler.
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