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College Football 2013 |Week 15| Where rankings are made up & SEC losses don't matter
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Even the receivers had drops of some catchable balls.
BertramCooper
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So what does this mean to Saban's "process." Did he not teach his process correctly? Did the players not understand the process, or did they just not execute it? For someone as obsessed with the details as he is, that game had to get under his skin since multiple facets were not clicking.
outlawedprod
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The article I just read at that link is not about the fight. The reprimand is for flipping the bird and for the coaching staff failing to escort him off the field.
To me it means that either (1) the coaches failed to teach how to defend against the read option or (2) the players felt they could beat Auburn on talent alone and decided that they didn't really have to play assignment football.
It's got to match the vitriol spewed at Alabama from everyone else after the loss.
I mean, it's been turned into something "bigger than The Play", apparently single-handedly undo 6 years of fantastic football, and dozens of unknown people just swarm into the topic to laugh about it. Who were those people? Besides Dammittmatt, of course.
None of it should lead to shootings (Miami Heat related or not), or Death Threats (shouldn't happen, but Foster also shouldn't kick for Alabama again, if he instills so little faith to kick a FG from the 13 yard line), or facebook photo's of garbage can's filled with Alabama gear (yeah, I've seen that)
About the defense: Miss Tackles mostly, and poor CB and outside LB play, with not doing their assignments. Cyrus Jones should have stayed at WR. HCD also had his worst game.
Auburn is a triple option team, just ran out of something other than a wishbone/flexbone formation, and less cut blocks, but more tempo. Triple Option will get their yards.
See it more as an execution problem, on both players and coaches. Players for incorrect assignments, and coaches for not having a simplified play calling system to get plays setup or planned, to keep up with the HUNH.
Randolph Freelander
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I don't think anybody* outside the great state of Alabama thinks of this loss as anything more than "well, just wasn't Bama's year." Nothing's taking away those 3 championships in 4 years, it simply won't be a 4th in 5 years.
Inside the great state of Alabama, I have no idea what yall are doing. Sort that out among yourselves.
*This being the internet, of course you have a small number of extremely vocal loons. Ignore those people.
Inside the great state of Alabama, I have no idea what yall are doing. Sort that out among yourselves.
*This being the internet, of course you have a small number of extremely vocal loons. Ignore those people.
devildog820
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So an FSU fan threatened a bar full of Gator fans with a machete. I have to say, I expect that from a Miami fan, not FSU fans. Maybe he was from Wakulla.
How many pairs of jorts were in that bar? Be honest.
Mac the KNife
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BertramCooper
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I'm glad we'll get to play you guys every single year from now on.
If our long and storied rivalry with Illinois has to suffer in order for it to be possible, so be it.
bucknuticus
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But what about he turtle!!!
BertramCooper
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It's a tragedy, no doubt, but we'll have to be strong and move on.
The problem with the read option and the triple option is the amount of time that you have to prepare for it and how soundly the players play their gaps and assignments. Every player on the defense has to execute their role on every play because everyone is being blocked either on their feet or having their legs cut out from under them.
The one area where I think Coach Grantham from Georgia does well is actually in his zone read defense or defense against the triple option. He vowed his first year that he won't lose to a triple option team while he's there, and so far he hasn't. The problem when playing those types of teams is that when you get so focused on the option, it opens up the pass and they're usually in single coverage. So those teams usually don't pass much but when they do, they're usually for big gains.
Brb, posting this in the OT. 50-page thread incoming.Tip what you wanna tip
The Christmas tree one was pretty good.
StrikerObi
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I sure hope my luck holds out this week. Gotta get back into first place so I can think up a stupid thread name!
GAF Pick'em Week 15 Games
(THU) Louisville @ Cincinnati by 6
(FRI) Bowling Green vs. Northern Illinois by 7
Oklahoma @ Oklahoma State by 9
UCF @ SMU by 4
Marshall @ Rice by 5
Texas @ Baylor by 7
Missouri vs. Auburn by 4
South Florida @ Rutgers by 4
Stanford @ Arizona State by 4 Very hard to beat the same team twice
Duke vs. Florida State by 26
Ohio State vs. Michigan State by 4 UPSET SPECIAL: BELIEVE
Utah State @ Fresno State by 6
USF @ Rutgers is a tough pick this week. I hate picking games involving two shitty teams. They're much harder to handicap in my opinion.
GAF Pick'em Week 15 Games
(THU) Louisville @ Cincinnati by 6
(FRI) Bowling Green vs. Northern Illinois by 7
Oklahoma @ Oklahoma State by 9
UCF @ SMU by 4
Marshall @ Rice by 5
Texas @ Baylor by 7
Missouri vs. Auburn by 4
South Florida @ Rutgers by 4
Stanford @ Arizona State by 4 Very hard to beat the same team twice
Duke vs. Florida State by 26
Ohio State vs. Michigan State by 4 UPSET SPECIAL: BELIEVE
Utah State @ Fresno State by 6
USF @ Rutgers is a tough pick this week. I hate picking games involving two shitty teams. They're much harder to handicap in my opinion.
devildog820
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Is that bannable? It should be bannable. Make that bannable.
Randolph Freelander
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This makes me sad.
Yes, GAF loves tipping threads. I hope you make a thread for it.
Murdering people, not tipping... I guess this is Alabama culture when they're not winning the titles they believe they're entitled to.
All I'm saying is don't take it out on the waiter/waitress just because your special teams suck.
StrikerObi
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Agreed. Only exception would be if it was a waiter, he was an Alabama player, and was on the field during that play. Negative tip if he was the kicker.
No clue what the real circumstances are, but nobody automatically owes anybody anything. If my waiter/waitress acts like a dick, then I wouldn't tip, either.
You'll play Baylor in the Alamo Bowl and like it.
bucknuticus
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Crazy stat of the day:
When OSU scores more than 35 points they are 285-0-1
When OSU scores more than 35 points they are 285-0-1
perfectchaos007
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Wow that stat has been put on the line as recently as last week. If you score 35 points against MSU, thats a definite win. Hell even 17 points would probably beat MSU so that should hold for a while
B1G offense is the new SEC defense.
theprodigy
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I'm indifferent to Hermann, but it would have been very hard for her to get enough support from the BOG/BOT (basically these are the guys we should be pissed off at right now) to fire him if he had a winning record.
I've seen the original post that you've referenced and that post also mentioned that a good amount within the AD want to fire him, its just the money issue right now.
NEOPARADIGM
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Damn bro. Yeah, that 78-0 when leading by 14 or more in the 4th they flashed during the Michigan game was pretty incredible too.
timetokill
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You guys, the other night a hispanic guy stopped me in the supermarket and asked me to "stop selling out the culture," referring to hip-hop... and that as a "white guy, with a beard" I had "the power" to change things and that I should tell my family and friends to stop selling out the culture, because white people don't know what it's like to be poor and have hardship, unless you're white trash.
I didn't really want to make a whole thread on it, but I felt like sharing it because it was so, so weird. So I guess, you guys, maybe stop selling out the culture? I don't know. Think about it.
I didn't really want to make a whole thread on it, but I felt like sharing it because it was so, so weird. So I guess, you guys, maybe stop selling out the culture? I don't know. Think about it.
Battlezone
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BuckeyeGAF: Is there another blog/message board that you guys read or visit on a regular basis? I've been trying to get down with Eleven Warriors, because the writing is great, but the tinfoil hat, "ESPN is solely out to get us" thing going on in the forums is getting to be a bit much.
Sirpopopop
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The money issue is ridiculous. It's untrue. It's a lie peddled by an administration accustomed to lying. There is no way they have to pay the full salaries for the assistant coaches for the entire damn year, when they've already been paid for half the year.
As for getting support from the BOG/BOT - she doesn't need their support for this at all. Certainly not the BOT as they only control certain university assets and put some seats on the BOG.
Cornballer
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Sounds like Wyoming might be going after Tedford.
Also, I'm surprised to hear that Cal is one of Joe Mixon's top four schools along with UCLA, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin. I assume Cal is a serious long shot given their woes this season and poor outlook for the future.
Also, I'm surprised to hear that Cal is one of Joe Mixon's top four schools along with UCLA, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin. I assume Cal is a serious long shot given their woes this season and poor outlook for the future.
bucknuticus
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Don't visit team specific forums, they're all how you describe above. I come here for cfb talk and that's it
There isn't a team message board or sports forum that doesn't believe this though. I say go with the group that has the fewest idiots and will allow for some divergent opinions
BertramCooper
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I follow 11W and Land Grant Holy Land, but I don't participate in either community regularly. I read the content and that's it.
As bucknut said, team-specific communities of any type are scary places. Aside from the obvious hive mind issues, it's simply not fun or interesting when everyone is on the same side.
I know every team does them, but the pregame motivational videos Duke has done this year has generated a lot of buzz among the fans (remember, we're used to it in basketball, not so much for football). The UNC one I think was pretty well done. Don't know what they have in mind for FSU....hold onto your butts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3asDzDcAsI&list=UU3WKeQOovev9_A2VfTccRpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3asDzDcAsI&list=UU3WKeQOovev9_A2VfTccRpA
StrikerObi
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you guys to lose 49-38 or something to FSU confirmed
LOL as if tOSU could score 38 points on FSU. Clemson only managed 14 (one of which was during garbage time) on their home field. Most teams are lucky to score 14.
Yeah, the comment threads on Tomahawk Nation are only good if you're looking for the FSU circlejerk meme machine. And when I want that, TN provides it in droves. When I don't, I come here or to r/cfb on reddit.
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