Doesn't matter, the refs spotted the ball indicating Wisconsin had possession, they then should have made the obvious delay of game call. They committed to one mistake but weren't willing to make the right call after they screwed up. It just looked amateurish at best. Apparently stopping the official from taking the ball is not grounds for a penalty in the PAC-12. Officials don't get the luxury of being excused from failures because a player did something odd.
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College Football 2013 |Week 3| Kiffen/Brown Farewell Tour
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Doesn't matter, the refs spotted the ball indicating Wisconsin had possession, they then should have made the obvious delay of game call. They committed to one mistake but weren't willing to make the right call after they screwed up. It just looked amateurish at best. Apparently stopping the official from taking the ball is not grounds for a penalty in the PAC-12. Officials don't get the luxury of being excused from failures because a player did something odd.
Pristine_Condition
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Why did the Wis QB not spike the ball?
QB calls timeout with 15 seconds left. Ten second runoff and yardage. Start the clock at five and go. *nope
They were trying to move the ball for the kicker. I'm drunk so probably missed read the Q.
That's a good follow-up question. Why did the Quarterback have so little urgency? He knew the clock was low. Yell and scream at everybody and he gets his flag against the D.
*"When a team’s charged timeouts are exhausted and it requests a timeout, the
official shall not acknowledge the request. (Rule 3-3-4)."
At the very end? Ref stood over the ball and wouldn't let them snap it.
Refs got confused and had no idea what to do. It's on them.
Pristine_Condition
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No, on the play where the QB laid the ball down. JUST SPIKE IT.
They were too busy making a break for the exit of the stadium.
A different type of bitter feeling compared to last September's replacement ref debacle, since we legitimately deserved to lose this game for the first 58 minutes. But some awful decisions by the ASU coach gave us a 30 yard field goal for the win.
Unbelievable. What a terrible ending.
Clock wasn't running. He was centering the ball in the field for an easier field goal. Spike comes after.
Unbelievable. What a terrible ending.
Clock wasn't running. He was centering the ball in the field for an easier field goal. Spike comes after.
They were centering it for the kicker.
Pristine_Condition
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Oh, for fuck's sake. They over-thought the whole thing. Just spike the fucking ball, kick the fucking FG, and win the fucking game.
Affeinvasion
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Wisconsin deserved to lose for being idiots. The quarterback put the ball on the ground, fumblerooski style. The coordinator should have clocked it and tried for the field goal. Who plays around with a run to the middle to center with no time outs? No sympathy at all.
Why reconvene when you can run out of the stadium like a bunch of gutless cowards?
BJK
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...because they should have known that the refs would allow more than 15 seconds to click down before spotting the ball?
Honestly, the Badgers' kicking game isn't that reliable; putting the ball between the hash marks is something they needed to do in order to have the best chance of making the kick....if actually given the chance to do so.
OMG. ez is going to have a conniption.
Affeinvasion
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Apparently he actually did take a knee:
No excuses for this refing.
Watching it in real time it doesn't look like he took a knee at all.
outlawedprod
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The only thing I'm confused about that Wisconsin ending is how Les Miles was involved.
Apparently he actually did take a knee:
No excuses for this refing.
Yeah. I just watched it again. His knee was clearly down and he just put it on the ground afterward for the ref to spot it.
Yep, looked like he was doing a lunge and it never touched when I saw it live.
And even if he did, give the ball to the ref. Don't just set it down
I feel like I see Tom Brady do it every week that they kick a game winning field goal.
And the major reason for centering is that the badgers kicker is awful and hash marks are wide as hell in the college game.
I think every play is supposed to be reviewed in college.
At what point do we stop blaming players for the ref's mistakes? There's absolutely no excuse for the end of this game and blaming the QB for putting the ball down is quite a bit ridiculous.
JJDinomite
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Take a wild guess.
They should have stopped the clock. It was bad officiating. But the QB also screwed up. Real time it's such a bizarre kneel down
perfectchaos007
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That good enough for you?
His body is blocking the ball. Inconclusive
That good enough for you?
4k resolution please, wouldn't be able to use that to overturn anything, same with the heel out of bounds call from earlier in the game.
That's conclusive enough after review. However, I'm still left wondering why he gets up like they have all the time in the world. If he hustles his team to the line the ref is going to get angry at the D player laying on the ball.
Also, lots of other questions.
JJDinomite
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I DON'T KNOW GUYS, HIS KNEE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DOWN
GOOD GAEM ASU, NICE CLEAN FIGHT.
Pristine_Condition
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A stupid ending.
Just spike the ball.
If your K sucks so bad you have to center a 30yd FGA or its a total adventure, replace him. We once got a kid out of the stands and signed him up to be our K at Texas Tech.
Just spike the ball.
If your K sucks so bad you have to center a 30yd FGA or its a total adventure, replace him. We once got a kid out of the stands and signed him up to be our K at Texas Tech.
Haha, yeah. At first I was looking for the left knee to be down. Not sure why the other angle wasn't on tv right away.
I DON'T KNOW GUYS, HIS KNEE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DOWN
GOOD GAEM ASU, NICE CLEAN FIGHT.
NOT CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH. I THINK WE NEED MORE EVIDENCE GUYZ.
Never thought I would see the day we would have a Pac-12 Ref defense force, haha.
perfectchaos007
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I DON'T KNOW GUYS, HIS KNEE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DOWN
GOOD GAEM ASU, NICE CLEAN FIGHT.
Enhance the last image please. I can't tell if a blade of grass is touching his kneecap.
outlawedprod
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Not gonna lie. This ending is the best thing about this CFB weekend. That Jen Beliema tweet alone will keep the muckrackers at the world wide leader busy for the next week.
Also we really need Wisconsin to play LSU as soon as possible
Also we really need Wisconsin to play LSU as soon as possible
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