GoldenEye 007
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It's that which keeps me somewhat sane in this 'Merica12 conference shuffle.
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It's that which keeps me somewhat sane in this 'Merica12 conference shuffle.
TheNatural
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They're eating the Sun Belt, plus North Texas, UTSA, Charlotte, and Old Dominion; when they all are allowed to play 1-A football.
Why does the NCAA have such low 1-A standards? It just makes the conference gap look that much bigger.
That is why the big boys want to split, because there really are no standards.
GoldenEye 007
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There are, the NCAA just chooses not to enforce them. They need to at least start enforcing standards. No reason more teams need to be added to FBS and there needs to be a contraction too...
TheNatural
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I don't even think of C-USA with that name. It makes me think of of the America East conference in basketball, and it's going to be confusing with the A12 initials, because it makes me think of the Atlantic 10 (A10) conference.
There really needs to be some originality in names these days. Big Sky is the only conference that doesn't include direction, coast, number, or generic "we're EVERYWHERE in the United States" type of name.
There really needs to be some originality in names these days. Big Sky is the only conference that doesn't include direction, coast, number, or generic "we're EVERYWHERE in the United States" type of name.
Four_Chamber
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Agreed- A12 sounds way too similar to the A10. I personally liked resurrecting the Metro Conference label- they always talk about their market so it would be a no-brainer IMO.
Anyway, for all the C-USA hand-wringing, there is no way as a major college football program that I'd want to be a part of that mess. The new Big East isn't star studded but it is MILES ahead of C-USA. I still think the new Big East is solidly ahead of the MWC which has some hot garbage at the bottom of the conference.
Also, I think its smart to target Tulsa as team #12. I read some rumors about UMass, a school which should never have gone to FBS in the first place. Tulsa is an interesting program and (for now) would be solidly in the middle of the new conference.
UMass is only coming if Uconn bounces. I think every uconn fan would commit suicide if that happened while they were in the conference. And yeah, MWC is kinda screwed by the fact that there are really no good West Coast teams to grab. Pretty much the same exact problem as the Pac 12 (no good programs to grab except from Texas).
TheNatural
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LOL - you think that would be the breaking point for UCONN fans after everything else that's happened to them the past couple of years?
GoldenEye 007
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Eh, yeah it's a bit close. But at the same time, I don't think anyone will get too confused because the A10 doesn't get mentioned every season until like April through March. Plus, they're about to get raided I'm sure by the Big East.
People saying A12 during November will tip them off that this is something different. If they even knew of the A10 in the first place.
bucknuticus
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Looks like we lost one Tech poster.
Dont say youre going to get someone banned!
Dont say youre going to get someone banned!
Four_Chamber
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UNC-Charlotte
Old Dominion
North Texas
UAB
Marshall
Southern Miss
Rice
UTEP
FAU
FIU
La Tech
UNT
UT-San Antonio
This would be a mighty fine FCS conference
Old Dominion
North Texas
UAB
Marshall
Southern Miss
Rice
UTEP
FAU
FIU
La Tech
UNT
UT-San Antonio
This would be a mighty fine FCS conference
BertramCooper
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Anyone who believes in KKK doesn't belong in this thread.
He had only been back in this thread for a few days after a long hiatus anyway. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.
I think the last time he was around was when he was telling me that Amaro's spleen injury was just a rumor and that he expected him back that week; Amaro ended up being out the rest of the season like I expected and after the season confirmed the lacerated spleen on twitter.
There are some topics that just aren't worth discussing on this message board, religion being one of them.
GoldenEye 007
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The 'Merica12 division names to be called Fuck and Yeah.
Respect, as a fellow solo poster.
You'd think with something like a million undergrads, there would be more than one ASU fan on here.
Georgia Tech? Texas Tech?
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
So, Colorado has 5 QB's on the team and one coming in the summer.
I predict 2 wins.
And why did Kiel leave ND?
I predict 2 wins.
And why did Kiel leave ND?
That kid's about as flaky as it gets when it comes to committment to something.
Gotcha. I think I see the casualty of war above.
Yesterday. He's going to Auburn.
So Rutgers has 4 commits for 2014, while in this time period last year they only had one.
Part of the reason, is that Flood is more established, but people are saying that commiting earlier is now a nationwide trend.
I know the Texas's/OSU's/Bamas always get the early commits, but have you been noticing this for the more midtier schools as well?
Part of the reason, is that Flood is more established, but people are saying that commiting earlier is now a nationwide trend.
I know the Texas's/OSU's/Bamas always get the early commits, but have you been noticing this for the more midtier schools as well?
Mistakenly double posted while trying to edit the previous post.
Kid has pro ambitions and he was blocked by a qb that took ND to the title game in his freshman year.
Kid has pro ambitions and he was blocked by a qb that took ND to the title game in his freshman year.
The lack of 2015 commits is really worrying to me.
TheNatural
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The Big Ea .... America 12 loses another bowl bid it looks like:
Yikes, that was the only decent bowl bid outside of the BCS slot. Now they're both gone.
Yikes, that was the only decent bowl bid outside of the BCS slot. Now they're both gone.
GoldenEye 007
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lol Fuck Florida Citrus Sports. Not that I didn't see this coming, but it is hilarious because it apparently used to be a Big XII tie-in but they dropped it do to nobody showing up. Don't see that changing when a 7-5 Baylor gets the bid and sends 1000 people.
At least if UCF/USF make the game, they'll get guaranteed sellouts.
Bowl situation will basically be former CUSA level.
TheNatural
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To add on. More bad news. I was about to say "after that, the Belk bowl is the best tie in" ... then I saw this on ESPN:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ig-12-acc-big-ten-discuss-power-bowl-alliance
Now they're basically locking up all bowl games now.
GoldenEye 007
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Yup. The other conferences are about to get the squeeze on bowl games. Pinstripe is probably gone too.
You didn't want the Pinstripe bowl anyway, it's going to be the annual Rutgers/Syracuse please kill us bowl.
Alabama only has one commit for 2014, and isn't usually one to take too many really early in the cycle. Saban has to see them in person, blah, blah, blah.
Texas is the gold standard for taking early commits. USC is generally up there. LSU seems to have been doing the same in recent years.
GoldenEye 007
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That's true. Had that in the back of my mind as I typed that. Northern version of the Beef O' Brady's Bowl in St. Petersburg....
perfectchaos007
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I read the boneyard (their forums), they're teetering on the edge right now, it would be the last thing they need to finally tip them over. It was even worse then reading the Rutgers boards when Pitt and Cuse left.
I just wish the ACC wasn't so salty about Maryland, and let them bounce so Rutgers/Ville and ECU/Tulane can also bounce. Next year's lame duck season is going to suck for every party involved.
TheNatural
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Well I mean after Calhoun retired, banned from the postseason this year, the Big East falling apart, finishing last in the league, etc wasn't enough to send them over the edge then nothing will.
Realistically, they should have just joined the Catholic 7 and played in the MAC in football. Hanging onto a football program they should have never started in the first place is causing them to completely lose their roots.
Their fanbase clinging on to getting an ACC invite as a backfill after more ACC defections. They're also clinging on getting into the Big 10 as well, just in case the Big 10 can't get an ACC team to flip.
The Umass would be rockbottom for them, as due to how desperately void of talent the New England (Connecticut's ... all right, the other states have like 1/2 Div 1 recruit a year) in hs football. Having another NE team in the same conference would kill them in football, and they know it. Especially, since UConn looks down on them like Syracuse looks down on Rutgers. Syracuse fans took Rutger's joining the Big 10 worse than any team in the Big East did.
TheNatural
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What bugs me is these programs don't do shit to improve their position.
There are so many teams out there looking to get in a big conference, most notably UCONN and Cincy. But look at what their programs are doing.
UCONN by some tiebreak in 2010 makes the Fiesta Bowl and they lost several million dollars because their fans didn't show up. I mean, that team was totally undeserving and not very good, but still - it's your TEAM. And they didn't show up in their biggest game in history. They want a big time invite when they didn't even support their big game?
Cincy did plenty better in support, but I would say it's more their athletic department that is more fucked up than their fans. When they axed Bob Huggins, I think a huge portion of their fanbase just basically said "fuck this shit, I'm done" and haven't come back since then.
Their athletic department has made no effort to upgrade their facilities, and at least get into Paul Brown stadium or something. They play in a decrepit 100 plus year old stadium. And even though they've had 3 straight pretty big time up and coming coaches, they wouldn't build facilities for them. I think this was a big deal when Kelly was there, I think he plain said "build me a fucking facility" in his contract extention, because it was so bad. I remember reading about that back then and it sounded like some of the shit he was using to recruit with was ridiculous, there were no facilities - no wonder everyone who gets there wants to leave in a couple years.
You gotta pay to play, and you gotta support to get in. Neither one wants to do that though.
In in all honesty, I think they upgraded their facilities for football. I think they suffered the same fate as Rutgers with some political ties causing them a lot of issues (I think the stadium being 50 miles off campus is because of that).
And yeah, UConn fan's always hang that one BCS game over Rutgers fans, but they don't realize that one BCS game hurt them so much (the lack of fanbase traveling). I mean Rutger's was their closest rival, our stadium isn't a piece of shit like the Carrier Dome yet when Rutgers plays Uconn they have 200 fans in the stadium. Compare that to WV/Ville fanswho live further yet fills the stadiums a decent amount more.
For Cinci, the chrismas card with Nippert Stadium was pretty funny, just because it was like about time for them.
GoldenEye 007
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UCONN? Fuck 'em. If we were able to tell our NIMBYs to screw off when we built our on-campus stadium, they can too. I don't they get any serious looks unless of course ACC loses more and they tell Boston College to sit down and/or they get their stadium situation in line.
Fans seem to be pricks sometimes too.
Fans seem to be pricks sometimes too.
TheNatural
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They did because of Kelly's demand years ago. At least a little bit. I don't remember it being some huge overhaul or anything, but they added a little bit on.
I think the bottom line is, UCONN isn't a football school. They lose Edsall and then hire some Syracuse reject coach that isn't going to do anything for the program.
Cincy has had the magic touch with coaches lately, although I don't think Tuberville is going to do much for them. Last year we did 20,000 more per game in attendance than them, when they were actually decent.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/college_football_regular-seaso.html#incart_flyout_sports
I meant Uconn upgraded their football facilities.
They had the reputation of the worst stadium to visit in 2004-11 Big East due to how nasty their fanbase is. Rutgers fans can be dicks as well but their is pretty much alot of self policing going on after the Navy incident.
Uconn is alot like Rutgers in that the politicians don't give a shit about them until it's too late to change anything. Rutgers just got lucky in that we're 40 minutes outside of New York so Delaney bailed us out (plus the fact that we pretty much invested in football only except for that stupid contract we gave to our woman's basketball coach).
TheNatural
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I think West Virginia had that locked down. Your life is in danger along with your car or anything you bring there if you go to Morgantown.
ChiTownBuffalo
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God forbid you drive a couch there.
Sirpopopop
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UConn was only bad to people who went to Rutgers as far as I can tell.
I'm sure the Rutgers fans deserved it. I am greatly embarrassed by most Rutgers fans. It's a combination of Philly/New York fan bases.
Edit: One good example of why I'm embarrassed by Rutgers fans - they seem to believe that the B1G as a conference is such a step up over the Big East for basketball that it will help basketball recruiting.
I'm sure the Rutgers fans deserved it. I am greatly embarrassed by most Rutgers fans. It's a combination of Philly/New York fan bases.
Edit: One good example of why I'm embarrassed by Rutgers fans - they seem to believe that the B1G as a conference is such a step up over the Big East for basketball that it will help basketball recruiting.
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