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College Football Offseason: FEAR THE TREE (and other non-threatening PC mascots)
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Yes, please.
timetokill
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Goro Majima
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I bet students at Auburn are furious. It's one thing to have suspicions that athletes have different standards academically but to have it confirmed? That's awful.
Glad to hear that the professor and the department head tried to stand their ground though.
Glad to hear that the professor and the department head tried to stand their ground though.
I'm still around. I just don't post much. I know Blair and a few other players in her story are saying that what she wrote was completely inaccurate on twitter.
Also, this is the same lady who wrote about Duke Lacrosse years ago:
http://www.aolnews.com/2008/03/17/a-year-later-selena-roberts-still-cant-admit-she-was-wrong-abo/
Also, this is the same lady who wrote about Duke Lacrosse years ago:
http://www.aolnews.com/2008/03/17/a-year-later-selena-roberts-still-cant-admit-she-was-wrong-abo/
bucknuticus
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It's all Urbans Fault!
CouldBeWorse
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While I don't doubt that most of these allegations are at least somewhat true, the source of the article ("I hate Duke" Selena Roberts) and the source of the information (bitter criminal Mike McNeil) are highly questionable. Especially with the former players recanting most of their (alleged) statements. Without physical evidence, I'm not sure where this actually goes.
To address the actual allegations, the money part doesn't really bother me but as an Auburn graduate who worked my ass off in school while working nearly full-time (summa cum laude!), changing grades does piss me off. Players should understand their obligations and their consequences for not making their grades, and if we don't think certain players can make the grade, then don't recruit them. Talent be damned.
Also, this stuff happens ALL OF THE TIME in every major program and frankly, it always has. Every school is just a bitter, scorned player away from having similar allegations.
To address the actual allegations, the money part doesn't really bother me but as an Auburn graduate who worked my ass off in school while working nearly full-time (summa cum laude!), changing grades does piss me off. Players should understand their obligations and their consequences for not making their grades, and if we don't think certain players can make the grade, then don't recruit them. Talent be damned.
Also, this stuff happens ALL OF THE TIME in every major program and frankly, it always has. Every school is just a bitter, scorned player away from having similar allegations.
It's Matt's annual appearance! Seems to always coincide with new allegations regarding Auburn.
CouldBeWorse said:
It's pretty damned typical of an Auburn fan to start attacking the accuser in this situation. Next thing you'll be defining allegations for us.
Or when his ban is up from making fun of the Wii. I am sure he would have thoroughly enjoyed thoughtful discussion about the Wii U. RIP
You don't know Auburn students that well. They will be more furious about being on probation than athletes cheating.
True, but I think he was perm'd. Hobbes could probably tell us.
I agree about Auburn students. Though I don't think most will entertain the fact that any of these allegations are true, they'll just attack the source. Even if they were true, they don't care as long as their program got a championship out of it.
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GoldenEye 007
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Uh-oh. Someone brought it to the main board. Cue the "shut down all programs" posts.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Yeah, but remember the stupidity that ensued with Sandusky? So far, the only good part about being in community.
This logo is the Georgia equivalent of our:
which they gave us after taking away our:
It won't be long before you miss this:
but it will be too late for that. I know they say that they're not getting rid of your old logo, but you know it will be transitioned out in favor of the new logo.
What a horrible logo (like our "modernized" logo), and I hope, for your sake, that they realize their mistake quickly.
Also, you should feel bad for making it your avatar.
Natural brought the Rice-ball-fairy gate to offtopic, and the only oderous thing I really read there was that Rick Majerus pooped into a towel.
And/or a stroke victim. But it's unique.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Looks like the OL problems at UF is forcing them to cancel the spring game. How long are these guys supposed to be out again?
No Spring Game
No Spring Game
BertramCooper
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It is possible to update an old, overly busy logo like Georgia's dawg head to a modern, vector-based design without completely robbing it of its charm.
That new Georgia dawg is bland as hell.
In any case, I find it amusing that a good two-thirds of college sports logos from the mid-20th century were animals in hats and/or sweaters.
That new Georgia dawg is bland as hell.
In any case, I find it amusing that a good two-thirds of college sports logos from the mid-20th century were animals in hats and/or sweaters.
This logo is the Georgia equivalent of our:
which they gave us after taking away our:
It won't be long before you miss this:
but it will be too late for that. I know they say that they're not getting rid of your old logo, but you know it will be transitioned out in favor of the new logo.
What a horrible logo (like our "modernized" logo), and I hope, for your sake, that they realize their mistake quickly.
Also, you should feel bad for making it your avatar.
Actually I do feel bad. I don't like it. The old logo was so much better. I have a sticker of that on my car. I just put my avatar up because I got tired of that special Auburn girl.
I fixed the glitch. I'll be able to sleep better tonight.
I knew you had taste and sensibilities.
I did not expect to ensnare one of CFB-GAF's own, that's for sure.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/4/4/4183936/mark-emmert-press-conference-ncaa-final-four
Wonder if there's video/audio of this Mark Emmert (President of NCAA) presser.
Wonder if there's video/audio of this Mark Emmert (President of NCAA) presser.
Sirpopopop
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Auburn - gets off scot free.
Rutgers - death penalty.
I'm already prepared. It's a big enough target that it will scare everyone into submission. A small enough target that it won't hurt the bottom line.
Rutgers - death penalty.
I'm already prepared. It's a big enough target that it will scare everyone into submission. A small enough target that it won't hurt the bottom line.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Don't worry. You're a B1G time program now. Temple is about to get wiped off the face of the earth.
Oh please, Rutgers basketball was dead already with half our team transferring. You could suspsend the team from the post season and it would spare us the embarassement fo losing to a team in the first game of the Big 10 tournament.
I don't like Dodd, I'm glad Emmert gave him shit.
CouldBeWorse
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So I finally just read the article. I had no clue that Mike McNeil was such a saint! Selena Roberts is providing better PR for him than any PR agency could hope to provide because she's doing it in the "guise" of journalism, where if she writes it, it must be true!
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Seriously, though, that paints a pretty damning picture of the state of big-time college football in small town America. I hope that it's not true but fear that it is. Aspects of the story do seem exaggerated for dramatic effect, but I'm sure there is some truth to all of the allegations. If the allegations are found to be truthful and provable, Auburn should suffer the punishment that they deserve for breaking the rules. It's as simple as that.
I will always love Auburn but I want to be proud of my school. I don't want to be a laughingstock. I don't want to always be on the defensive. If we have to be 3-9 for three more years until we weed out all of the bad elements, so be it. If we have to completely replace the administration, the police leadership, and the city leadership who are all bought and owned by the Auburn athletics machine, so be it.
Malzahn and his staff are on a VERY short leash and must run everything by the book from this point forward, if they haven't been already.
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Seriously, though, that paints a pretty damning picture of the state of big-time college football in small town America. I hope that it's not true but fear that it is. Aspects of the story do seem exaggerated for dramatic effect, but I'm sure there is some truth to all of the allegations. If the allegations are found to be truthful and provable, Auburn should suffer the punishment that they deserve for breaking the rules. It's as simple as that.
I will always love Auburn but I want to be proud of my school. I don't want to be a laughingstock. I don't want to always be on the defensive. If we have to be 3-9 for three more years until we weed out all of the bad elements, so be it. If we have to completely replace the administration, the police leadership, and the city leadership who are all bought and owned by the Auburn athletics machine, so be it.
Malzahn and his staff are on a VERY short leash and must run everything by the book from this point forward, if they haven't been already.
Should stop paying players then!
Yes, you would think that McNeil should have a Halo. I liked the part about how he did "B" work in a class, but never showed up so he got a "F." That sounds like the behavior of a kid who always makes the right decisions.
TheNatural
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Is there some sort of aggregate list of all the SEC teams that have been on probation the last 20 years or so? When's the last time the conference was 100% probation free?
Look out, guys. The Louisville fan is going all Notre Dame on us.
TheNatural
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What kind of probation we talking? The real kind with postseason bans or the bullshit wrist slap don't talk to recruits as much maybe a reduction in a scholly or two kind? Cause if it is the latter that will never happen for a major conference ever again.
TheNatural
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Postseason ban + probation for 2-3 years or whatever after.
Different kinds of "Major" probation, now that there's "vacating wins" as punishment. I'd imagine Alabama was the last SEC school that couldn't go to a bowl game (unless Kentucky/Mississippi schools had one of these as well, but since they rarely go to a bowl game, we never noticed).
Then you had Alabama deleting 30 wins over books, and LSU lost a scholarship or 2 for paying a player's rent (or something). South Carolina might not have heard back about that whole "Players stay in a hotel for free" deal.
But nothing obviously major since Alabama in the early 00's.
Then you had Alabama deleting 30 wins over books, and LSU lost a scholarship or 2 for paying a player's rent (or something). South Carolina might not have heard back about that whole "Players stay in a hotel for free" deal.
But nothing obviously major since Alabama in the early 00's.
I don't think there are any schools on it right now. We were pretty close in both sports but somehow weaseled our way out of it.
Louisville? Nothing. You're just sounding like a Domer with that talk. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
LSU is on probation for football, I believe.
Sirpopopop
Member
Fair enough.
I'm not going to bump the GAF thread at this point. However, the University is cleaning house. They just bumped off the General Counsel. Pernetti's next. Barchi is probably on the block as well. The NCAA is probably going to give us an accelerated review, Penn State style. I just know it. Perfect program to make an example of...
This is worse than my worst case scenarios. We're going to get screwed worse than Baylor for murder-gate.
I don't know what's going to happen right now.
FBI's on Rutgers campus as they deal with this extortion issue, ESPN might get fucked.
TheNatural
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Over just the coach being a prick? Is there other stuff I missed at Rutgers?
The coach abusing players and then getting a slap on the wrist for it until video came out.
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