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College Football Offseason: FEAR THE TREE (and other non-threatening PC mascots)
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Barchi was his handpicked man to integrate the UDMNJ (the New Jersey Medical/Dentristry school) into Rutgers.
Barchi pretty much threw Pernetti under the bus (everybody and their mother who watched the press conference knew that).
Nobody in their right mind can say Barchi did a good job at the press conference.
Yet we have a tweet from Christie supporting Barchi (the one that Aditi retweeted). Barchi is getting alot of heat in the press.
Here's the full tweet.
Governor Christie ‏@GovChristie 1h I commend Pres. Barchi for his decisive leadership in coming to an agreement w/ Mr. Pernetti to have @RUathletics come under new leadershipExpand Collapse
CouldBeWorse
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So you're saying that her website is well-designed?
Sirpopopop
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B1G to ESPN, when asked about Rutgers:
"Fuck off."
That's how it's done.
"Fuck off."
That's how it's done.
I'm not quoting all the ESPN conspiracy theories, but I made a point of listening to Fox Sports talk radio today instead of ESPN talk radio and I must say how surprised I was to hear them also talking about how inappropriately Pernetti handled the situation!
I'm glad we have principled media like the Murdoch empire where the news is not shaped by editorial diktat to provide a fair and balanced account of ESPN's BS.
Stop.
No one claimed that Rutgers didn't fuck up (although I but alot of blame on the President)
The ESPN conspiracy is how they've been harping on this matter nonstop, while theres other serious issues here that they have blatantly ignored UNC/Auburn.
http://www.app.com/assets/pdf/B320344045.PDF?sf11227930=1
Read that.
Oh he's not resigning, but there's alot of unhappy alumni here, and he's going to backtrack on Barchi next week.
Sirpopopop
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If the independent counsel report is to be believed, then Murdoch and his lawyers were lying about the timetables involved.
Also, I notice Murdoch didn't mention skipping a June 29th meeting in his complaint. That's a pretty big thing to omit.
Then again, maybe the counsel's facts are wrong.
Edit: I would like to see folks looking to call for TP's head explain away this bit.
"During the November 26, 2012 meeting, AD Pernetti asked EM directly why he did
not come to AD Pernetti if he felt that he or others had been improperly treated by Coach
Rice. EM did not answer. Instead, his attorney interrupted, “because he was afraid for his
job.” Stated differently, rather than act as a “whistleblower”, it appears that EM had made
a deliberate decision not to bring his complaints to Rutgers administrators outside the
basketball program"
(taken from Draxal's link)
Can't be a whistleblower if you don't blow the whistle!
Also, I notice Murdoch didn't mention skipping a June 29th meeting in his complaint. That's a pretty big thing to omit.
Then again, maybe the counsel's facts are wrong.
Edit: I would like to see folks looking to call for TP's head explain away this bit.
"During the November 26, 2012 meeting, AD Pernetti asked EM directly why he did
not come to AD Pernetti if he felt that he or others had been improperly treated by Coach
Rice. EM did not answer. Instead, his attorney interrupted, “because he was afraid for his
job.” Stated differently, rather than act as a “whistleblower”, it appears that EM had made
a deliberate decision not to bring his complaints to Rutgers administrators outside the
basketball program"
(taken from Draxal's link)
Can't be a whistleblower if you don't blow the whistle!
Video existing would be the easier explanation, makes for coverage where you don't have to work on sourcing as much.
First of all, there is no such thing, second, no.
Are you saying Rutgers alumni do not vote?
You have never heard of the term voter apathy?
Ya, Murdoch comes off as an opportunist scumbag, then somebody who actually cared about the players.
Please stop me if this sounds too tinfoil hat, but maybe the viewing public (inappropriately perhaps) is less interested in forged grades and paying players than they are in a coach engaging in violent and homophobic behavior with young people in his charge.
My memory isn't the greatest, but I remember the Duke lacrosse rape accusation getting a ton of play and Duke is a darling of ESPN's (from a money perspective) + it was a problematic rape accusation on top of that.
Sirpopopop
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Hmm... interesting they did recommend that Mike Rice could be terminated based on grounds of harassment. They exonerated him on hostile work environment claims.
Edit: wait, the report never said terminate. It said violations were committed, but they never used the word terminate.
Edit: wait, the report never said terminate. It said violations were committed, but they never used the word terminate.
Actually, the bigger thing is the video evidence, and Duke LaCrosse was mainly a Selena Roberts (OH HI AUBURN) from Cnnsi at that time.
I actually don't believe in the conspiracy, but I do belive my university has been railroaded in an attempt to fire all people responsbile without actually trying to find the truth of the matter.
Espn has made all the factual errors mentioned by Sirpopopopopop earlier, WHILE CONVENINETLY CANCELING ALL BOBBY KNIGHT RADIO APPEARANCES, and employing known sexual harrassers as Mike Tirico.
Plus my dislike of ESPN for their midday show, where they tell their midday hosts to make up stupidly offensive shit (Skip Bayless and Steven Smith) but if they go too far they fuck them (HI Rob Parker).
Clearly... or maybe simply that they don't vote as bloc based on what's going on at Rutgers. There are perhaps a small group of people who act in a such a fashion (and those people are good at being loud), but they represent a trivial fraction of the entire alumni population.
This isn't going away, Barchi really fucked up, and everybody in the media is making fun of him for it.
He still has the faculty mad at him, they were mad at him before this incident even happened. I just don't see this ending well, unless Christie starts distancing away from Barchi.
The faculty got the previous president fired, and he didn't bungle anything to this extreme.
Is this hyperbole from me because I'm furious on how Pernetti was thrown under the bus?
Yes that's 100% true.
Being real, Barchi has to do a hell of a job selling this to our donors, I don't see how he can placate the faculty.
Sirpopopop
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No effect politically.
This will have an effect on donations. And no, there is no alum of Rutgers who is going to donate more to the school as a result of this action. The alums who were "outraged" by Rice & Pernetti were the academic wonks who used their outrage as an excuse to distance themselves from their alma mater in the first place.
They are the same bitter folks who could never get over the fact that Columbia rejected them. They'll say they were "pleased" by this action but that the school needs to take things further. Even if the school ever fully went to their side, they still wouldn't donate.
This will have an effect on donations. And no, there is no alum of Rutgers who is going to donate more to the school as a result of this action. The alums who were "outraged" by Rice & Pernetti were the academic wonks who used their outrage as an excuse to distance themselves from their alma mater in the first place.
They are the same bitter folks who could never get over the fact that Columbia rejected them. They'll say they were "pleased" by this action but that the school needs to take things further. Even if the school ever fully went to their side, they still wouldn't donate.
Alumni/fans of the program do not function as a hive mind? I'm not sure I believe you. I mean, look at Auburn.
They're not a fanbase. They're a family.
No man loathes his alma mater more then a Rutgers man.
I lied.
A Suny man does.
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Sirpopopopopoppopop:
I gotta give Murdoch credit he has balls the size of grapefruits, as he's opening a restaruant on Route 23. And as much as a raving lunatic I appear to be right now, we have much much worse than me on rivals.
Damn, Tim Pernetti made 1.1 million in his buyout and Rice is making 1.0
Barchi/Christie botched this so much. Faculty is going to go insane.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/04/mike_rice_tim_pernetti_rutgers.html
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Rutgers AD is in so the deep that they cannot afford this, especially since this pissed off alot of donors that Rutgers had.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ttis_resignation_as_r.html#incart_maj-story-1
Barchi/Christie botched this so much. Faculty is going to go insane.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/04/mike_rice_tim_pernetti_rutgers.html
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Rutgers AD is in so the deep that they cannot afford this, especially since this pissed off alot of donors that Rutgers had.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ttis_resignation_as_r.html#incart_maj-story-1
Show me one shred of evidence that we are a cult.
damn.
Not all of us are like that though, The family stuff makes me feel uneasy a lot. Especially when I go to games. And I graduated from there.
I feel like A&M has the cult hat though, man...
I'm sure you guys have read The Facts!
Those "facts" are an amazing attempt to spin the truth, and Jacobs should be commended for his efforts there. I'm on a tablet so I'm not going to try to respond to all of the facts he states, but a few jumped out to me as being empty.
What a sloppy bunch of "facts." I'm not even fired up over any of this, because ESPN's entire story was hogwash. Who cares if Auburn football players tested possitive for a substance that wasn't banned in the first place. Big fucking deal. A six month investigation and that's all they got? Please.
Strongly implies that the three individuals were removed from Auburn Athletics rosters as a result of the positive test, but does not provided a reason for their dismissal. Did they graduate? Were they removed as punishment?
Great. What was discussed over these phone calls? What was the time frame for these phone calls? Are they 50 calls since the kids started at Auburn? Since they were being recruited? Or between the BCS MNC game and the date of the robbery? Strongly suggests that these were calls to discuss the student's abuse of synthetic weed, but doesn't actually give any details.
We know that, between Kitchens and Mosely, the two kids interviewed for the story, there were at least 8 faild drug tests (seven for Moseloy plus at least one for Kitchens). And Auburn sent home one letter? Congratulations.
What a sloppy bunch of "facts." I'm not even fired up over any of this, because ESPN's entire story was hogwash. Who cares if Auburn football players tested possitive for a substance that wasn't banned in the first place. Big fucking deal. A six month investigation and that's all they got? Please.
I agree with you on all points. I think the worst part is, we have more to worry about than these silly baseless accusations anyway. Did everyone suddenly forget our shit season last year? I think we've got bigger problems that need addressing when football is concerned.
I sacrifice a chicken every night to the great Aubie that they'll fucking fire Jay Jacobs. I hate that piece of shit and he's killing our Athletic department.
CouldBeWorse
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I think there is an Ed Rush or Gregg Williams-style bounty on Auburn's head that reporters are all fighting for. How else can you explain the stupidity of these "reporters" basing entire stories on the testimony of these three accused (and one convicted) felons.
bucknuticus
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Go read everything that happened with us, whole case was built off a convicted felon.
USA Today and ESPN trading blows?
ESPNs Auburn Synthetic Reefer Madness Report Has Some Major Flaws
ESPNs Auburn Synthetic Reefer Madness Report Has Some Major Flaws
timetokill
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Wait, "convicted felon?" I thought they said "conviction fella!" Y'know, like a fella with convictions! I like them.
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you're welcome mre
Every sports outlet in the country, including ESPN, is reporting this. Please tell me about groupthink, oh Auburn fan.
perfectchaos007
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...or because for the first time all year, there was something to do in Midland, TX
Squirrel Killer
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The only thing Rutgers' athletics are holding them back from being is an athletic institution.
In all honesty lack of funding kills ours our athletic department. Howland's interested in the basketball job, but there is no chance in hell they can afford him.
Chris Carlin ‏@ChrisCarlinSNY
I remember right after the election, @GovChristie was outside the #RFootball locker room after a game. I heard him say to @Tim_Pernetti, 'Anything I can ever do, I'm here for you, Tim.' Those words appear pretty empty from a "no-nonsense" guy.
They can only swim around in their Scrooge McDuck style piles of money for so long before they have to find something else to do.
perfectchaos007
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I get Midland and Odessa confused, but one of those towns has already seen their wells dry up. I think it's Odessa that is run-down now, and Midland will be that way once they run out of the non-renewable fossil fuels. Take note Dubai
BertramCooper
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TheSchwab_7
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Midland is definitely running out of water but they've made some deals recently that should help spell the problem. Just have to keep pumping it in from somewhere else.
They are going through some absolutely ridiculous growth right now. Housing prices are incredible. It's been announced that there is going to be a 59 story office building going up soon while the previous tallest building was only 24 or 27 or something like that.
Better hope that energy boom out there lasts a while. As of now, though, if you know anybody that wants a well paying job and isn't afraid of manual labor they won't be out of work for longer than half a day in Midland.
Haha. Oh Wow.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversation...s-football-players-failed-synthetic-pot-tests
Amazing.
Edit: May not be him, but if it is, haha.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversation...s-football-players-failed-synthetic-pot-tests
Amazing.
Edit: May not be him, but if it is, haha.
Loved the end where they lift him up, the benches empty, and they all surround him. Knowing what that kid has gone through and seeing him be able to live out one of his dreams like that gets me a tad misty-eyed. GBR
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