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COMICS! April 2012 |OT| It's a new month? Already?!

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Mistouze

user-friendly man-cashews
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French thief/anti-hero, similar outfit, female partner-in-crime named Eva, he even took the male actor's name for Jean-Philippe
Diabolik is italian though, the creator at least don't know about the character. Morrison did use the name of the french character Fantomas.

On another note, I still can not understand the hate Fantomex sometimes gets on the internet. HE'S AWESOME!
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
i'm visiting my parents for a few days this week - anyone have a suggestion for a solid series / graphic novel i can bang out while i'm there? something that's 100% complete - no ongoing series' please.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
i'm visiting my parents for a few days this week - anyone have a suggestion for a solid series / graphic novel i can bang out while i'm there? something that's 100% complete - no ongoing series' please.

if you havent yet, planetary, or 100 bullets.
 

ep85

Member
I don't like his powers..

The only reason you guys like him so much is because Remender is writing him.
 

Tizoc

Member
I don't like his powers..

That's prob. becase you WANT his powers, just imagine what you could do if you had them @_@

Fantomex's a badass, I'm not enjoying X-Force that much but then again I haven't been following it for some time now.
 

Mistouze

user-friendly man-cashews
I don't like his powers..

The only reason you guys like him so much is because Remender is writing him.
And that he's consistent with what Morrison first did with the character. I love Marvel Boy too when Bendis is not writing him.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Fantomex was bordering some Gary Stu levels for a while in Uncanny which was leading me to dislike him, but he's been getting plenty of beats recently so he's back to being okay.

I wonder if the X-Force death could technically be referring to Betsy?

It was also nice to have Uncanny X-Force back on form this week gone. WatM was a damn good issue too despite being a tie-in. Henry and Logan's relationship is so adorable.
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
bumped this week's DC to new page for shits and gigs.
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
started reading morning glories and i really like it.

my only complaint is that they drew the indian girl to be white... didn't even realize she was supposed to be indian until i was like 6 issues in and they talk about where she came from.

a damn shame, i like some visual diversity in my cast
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Got the Severed hardcover this weekend. So good. Beautiful book too.

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I wish all hardcovers were like this. Dust jackets are so annoying. I assume it's a cost issue, but shit, I'd pay the small additional fee.
 

Owzers

Member
started reading morning glories and i really like it.

my only complaint is that they drew the indian girl to be white... didn't even realize she was supposed to be indian until i was like 6 issues in and they talk about where she came from.

a damn shame, i like some visual diversity in my cast

Another nod for Morning Glories, i fault it for not reading well in single issue format, but it's still a fun book, and is unique compared to the super hero stuff i'm usually reading.
 
:bowdown

Amazing comics AND I get to say fuck you to Moore? Priceless.

Why would you want to say fuck you to him? The level of outrage is so fucking bizarre.

Dude says stupid shit about something he knows nothing about? Fuck him.

Company robs him and dozens of others? Take my money!

Note: I'm not saying "Fuck you" to either, so I'm in the clear. I'm just saying if you're that outraged about a situation where literally no one was wronged, why aren't you outraged about the scenario where someone clearly was?

Moore hasn't stolen money from anyone or hoodwinked anyone. He said dumb shit about the state of contemporary comics and creators, something he hasn't read dick of? Fuck him?

Okay.
 
Holy cow, American Vampire might be one of the best comics I've read in a good while. Thanks for the suggestion, ComicGAF. Any other vamp books of note I'm missing out on?
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Holy cow, American Vampire might be one of the best comics I've read in a good while. Thanks for the suggestion, ComicGAF. Any other vamp books of note I'm missing out on?

I Vampire right now in DC's New 52 has been great but it is getting a little sillier now that it's crossing over with the rest of the DCU proper, specifically with Batman and Justice League Dark. I'd say wait for the first trade of that to come out and get it but don't expect anything like AmVam. Unfortunately you started the show with the showstopper.
 

ElNarez

Banned
Why would you want to say fuck you to him? The level of outrage is so fucking bizarre.

Dude says stupid shit about something he knows nothing about? Fuck him.

Company robs him and dozens of others? Take my money!

Note: I'm not saying "Fuck you" to either, so I'm in the clear. I'm just saying if you're that outraged about a situation where literally no one was wronged, why aren't you outraged about the scenario where someone clearly was?

Moore hasn't stolen money from anyone or hoodwinked anyone. He said dumb shit about the state of contemporary comics and creators, something he hasn't read dick of? Fuck him?

Okay.

Fucking righteous.

For everyone else, have some facts. Maybe then we can have a proper talk.
 

Mifune

Mehmber
Yeah, this hatred for a guy who is one of the greats of the comic book medium (hell, one of the great writers period) is beyond fucking bizarre.

Beyond Watchmen can burn in hell.
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
What makes a revisit to the watchmen world so bad, but the idea of revisiting a world like marvelmans a good one? what series should be held to a higher regard, and why?
 
It's too bad Moore got fucked over as hard as he did, but if these wind up being good comics in the end, I don't think it'll really matter.

And if they're bad, we can all ignore them and Watchmen will continue to stand on its own as a great comic. Nothing's gonna take that away.
 
What makes a revisit to the watchmen world so bad, but the idea of revisiting a world like marvelmans a good one? what series should be held to a higher regard, and why?

Neither, really, but why "Fuck Alan Moore"?

If Jack Kirby ever said "Ahhh kids these days," fuck him too?
 

Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Neither, really, but why "Fuck Alan Moore"?

If Jack Kirby ever said "Ahhh kids these days," fuck him too?

I dont personally care for moore as a person, ive put him on the crazy ignore blimp with frank miller. But quite a few people in the real world and online are acting as if a major crime is being commited, yet enjoy the costant differing variants by other works created by other men with no sort of outrage except by todd mcfarlane. I would be pissed if planetary got a revisit, but I'm not gonna pretend a great injustice happened either.
 
What makes a revisit to the watchmen world so bad, but the idea of revisiting a world like marvelmans a good one? what series should be held to a higher regard, and why?

Because Gaiman's Marvelman was never finished. It was also meant to be a serialized monthly comic. From Anglo's original to Moore's run and then Gaiman's incomplete one, it was never billed as a mini series.

I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to revisit Watchmen really except everything about the Watchmen characters and the world were meant and written to be used for one story. The sole purpose of every character and situation was to serve the story. You can't really add to much to mythology of Watchmen. The characters are more reflections of themes and ideas (cold ward nuclear proliferation, impotence, nihilism, etc) that are supposed to clash with each other to make a really interesting narrative. The characters weren't meant to stand alone. I suppose they can be written to become that way though.

Another thing about revisiting Watchmen as a franchise is that Watchmen is as much an exploration of the medium as anything. To be in the spirit of Watchmen, I think, that as a creator, you would have to try to push the boundaries of comic book narrative. In my opinion, we have the spiritual successor of Watchmen in We3.

To be honest, I think it's boring to throw such talents at Watchmen in hope of making good comics out of it. Imagine if they had done this like eight years ago and thrown BKV and Guerra out of it. Instead of getting Y the Last Man, we get Watchmen sequels. Which one do you think is a truer successor to Watchmen?
 

ElNarez

Banned
It's too bad Moore got fucked over as hard as he did, but if these wind up being good comics in the end, I don't think it'll really matter.

And if they're bad, we can all ignore them and Watchmen will continue to stand on its own as a great comic. Nothing's gonna take that away.

Honestly? That's actually my stance. But I feel it's your duty if you give a fuck about comics and the people who make them to remind yourself and other people that there are people who got screwed, and who are still getting screwed today. To make sure no one gets away with it, and to make sure it never happens ever again, it's necessary to call out DC, Marvel or anyone else on this whenever we can. The only way we can make this industry healthier is by giving a fuck. So, let's do that.
 
Why would you want to say fuck you to him? The level of outrage is so fucking bizarre.

Dude says stupid shit about something he knows nothing about? Fuck him.

Company robs him and dozens of others? Take my money!

Note: I'm not saying "Fuck you" to either, so I'm in the clear. I'm just saying if you're that outraged about a situation where literally no one was wronged, why aren't you outraged about the scenario where someone clearly was?

Moore hasn't stolen money from anyone or hoodwinked anyone. He said dumb shit about the state of contemporary comics and creators, something he hasn't read dick of? Fuck him?

Okay.

I think he's often a self righteous asshole. That's enough in my book to say fuck you.

So yes. Fuck him. Just like when any other asshole spouts his mouth off like he's superior when he has zero clue. Making some great comics or not.
 
I'd rather get on board with some "Fuck you JMS"

I'm pretty indifferent(uninterested?) to this Watchmen thing though. I'm not outraged, I'll maybe buy the Amanda Connor or Jae Lee stuff but I'm not following it. I try to mostly not even look at previews for the next few months comics. I used to but it took all the fun out for me.

I don't even know what I'm getting at.
 
So you're saying his comics are...better than average? Su...perior than others?

;D

I'm saying his comics are but the man himself is an out of touch kook. Making great art does not put you above people. Just like Frank Miller.

Not to mention a hypocrite with his use of the characters of great lit.
 
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