SpiderJerusalem
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I haven't read Thunderbolts since Busiek..I sorta want to go back and catch up.
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COMICS February |OT| of Curious (Black) Creators & Curious (Black) Characters!
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BenjaminBirdie
Banned
It's turned into the best and wildest Giant Monster Comic on the stands.
I really, really, really hope that isn't the case. As it is I think it's already too soon to have to this AvX crap interrupting the events of Schism. We haven't even had time to establish a status quo yet. WatXM has been a revelation for the X-Men comics and I don't want to see that book axed and have to go back to the constant doom and gloom that is the rest of all the X-books.
I haven't been reading comics long enough to even speculate on what Marvel is capable of in regards to this, but they better leave WatX alone, damn it.
parrotbeak
Member
Damn, the new Dicks #1 is $4.99? I was going to pick it up but maybe will wait for the trade.
They should have retitled X-Men Legacy back to X-Men and made that the banner title for team Wolverine. Carey was leaving and they could have just handed the reigns over to Aaron. Also it would have been a great excuse to axe that turd series X-Men on team Cyclops.
Also, are they ever going back to the old title fonts?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
What does he mean by "Goes Away" one team will go back to where the other one is stationed?
Not enough LOLs on Earth.
They won't leave the teams split up forever. Obviously they will put the Jean Grey school on a wide load trailer and move it to Utopia which they will move to Chicago and float it in Lake Michigan.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
All of Jason Aaron's interviews indicate he's going to be on that book for the long haul. Of course, he said something similar about PunisherMAX, but WATXM sells a lot better. I think it's gonna stick around for awhile.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
"They won't let mutants be extinct forever."
What, 10 years later now?
"They won't let Jean Grey be dead forever."
What, 10 years later now?
"They won't let Peter Parker be split up from Mary Jane Watson forever."
What, 10 years later now?
And cetera....
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I believe all three of those things have very big changes of being reversed this year.
and MJ/Peter split wasn't THAT long ago, although it has been about 8 years worth of ASM since OMD
and MJ/Peter split wasn't THAT long ago, although it has been about 8 years worth of ASM since OMD
None of those events were meant to divide the fanbase (literally) or create new series. You can still follow both teams but you have to buy more comics. How long will that last?
EDIT: I'm not saying it will happen this soon, but there will most likely be some team shake-up after AvX. I imagine some of the mutants won't fight on Wolverine's (the Avengers') side.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
He's just playing willfully ignorant Devil's advocate.
The simple fact of the matter is these are brief moments in the decades of these comics existing, and even more cynical truth - copyright / trademark requirements will inevitably bring dead characters back.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Right, YEARS after the fact. The Jean Grey school opened like LAST MONTH.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Remember when the X-Men moved to San Francisco and built a new base there and enjoyed that status quo for about 12 issues before they got moved to Utopia?
Preview for Age of Apocalypse #1
Ramos did the cover. I wish his interior art on Spider-Man looked more like this.
Ramos did the cover. I wish his interior art on Spider-Man looked more like this.
Anticitizen One
Banned
wait Ares is a kid with candles on his face now?
What happened to this dude:
What happened to this dude:
Since TTOB yelled at me about not reading old comics, I ignored all his recommendations but still picked up the Uncanny X-Men Marvel Masterworks Volume 1 so now I'm reading old ass X-Mans. Kinda shocked at how readable they are. In my endless naivete I was expecting poor art and for them to be overly wordy and exposition filled. While decidedly old-fashioned, it has been a brisk, fun read so far. I'm just gonna go ahead and just snatch up the lot of these.
Escape Goat
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Magneto is pretty ripped for a 70-something year old Holocaust survivor.
evil solrac v3.0
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well i'm sure his powers had something to do with it.
Spike Spiegel
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So is anyone going to be checking out 'Fantastic Four: Season One' tomorrow? Reviews are beginning to filter out.
Comics Alliance Review
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Eventually I 'll collect the entire line but I don't have time to read monthly comics right now.
Fucking Ramos. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that he does good work.
There was a lot of bad art in that whole series I felt. I think a lot of it had to do with the monochromatic/muted color scheme in most books. That combined with the cartoony, busy art made for total junk pages. Try and count how many characters there even are in this panel.
I can't fucking tell. A dozen? Maybe more?
e: also
I don't mind the art in Uncanny, X-Factor, and X-Men, at least it's relatively consistent. But you get to New X-Men and goddamn, it almost makes me want to stop reading the book.
And what's with the giant gauntlets that X-23 only seems to have in New X-Men? I wish the X/Deathstrike fight would have been in one of the other books.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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He's actually in his 20s/30s because Alpha reduced him to an infant and then Erik the Red restored him back to "the prime of his life"
/xmencontinuity
Fucking Ramos. Don't ever let anyone try to convince you that he does good work.
There was a lot of bad art in that whole series I felt. I think a lot of it had to do with the monochromatic/muted color scheme in most books. That combined with the cartoony, busy art made for total junk pages. Try and count how many characters there even are in this panel.
I can't fucking tell. A dozen? Maybe more?
e: also
what the hell is going on in that shot?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
In Jim Lee world, even the geriatrics are buff as fuck and have perfect jawline matched with sexy stubble.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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That's why he's awesome
Anticitizen One
Banned
It's not a monthly it's trade only like DC's Earth One line
A bunch of X-Men are attacking the Marauders(? the group with Mr Sinister in this era) on Muir Island. Lord only knows how many characters are actually supposed to be portrayed.
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Ok, finished and it was a good read. What do I need to read to find out what happened to Layla and the other Madrox dupe in 2nd alternate future?
The correct answer is "absolute effing nonsense."
As for Madrox and Layla, I'm not 100% sure anymore without checking but I think it's all covered in the X-Factor Layla one-shot that came just after. I read that, but I didn't read any of the main X-Factor books that directly came after so I'm not sure how much of it rolls over into that series proper.
e: http://www.comicvine.com/x-factor-layla-miller/49-22690/
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
You'll get there...
Ah Xmen #1 , aka the blue team, loved that issue , such a nose dive till Adam came in and we went to tha mojoverse.
Best part are those baller, 90s costumes. Those are MY X-Men. That's what I grew up reading. As much as I'm thankful to finally be reading the old 70s stuff and getting a taste of the roots of my favorite comic team, I still long for those cheesy, old, 90s designs.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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SpiderJerusalem
Banned
New Xmen got pretty good around when they cancelled it
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Too bad Jim Lee went back to yellow Wolverine in issue 4
Fun story about that. Jim Lee always wanted to put Wolverine back in the yellow outfit, because OMG NOSTALGIA, and once he got creative control after booting that one hack who spearheaded the book 17 years, he did it! He called up John Byrne about, all happy, saying he was so happy to finally see that ugly boring tan costume is gone. John Byrne was like, "Uh, you know I made that tan costume, right?"
Awkward silence.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Shows how much Marvel cared about the writers back then when John Byrne (who was writing X-men at that time) didn't even find out about that until it was too late.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Bob Harras loved the artists so much, who knew they would lead him into the promise land for years to come.
And then less then a year after Claremont was booted, all the golden boy artists left to form Image Comics.
WHOOPS! Look like somebody put their bets on the wrong race horse! Good thing they had Lobdell and Nicenza to do over melodramatic Claremont impersonations and annual crossovers!
And then less then a year after Claremont was booted, all the golden boy artists left to form Image Comics.
WHOOPS! Look like somebody put their bets on the wrong race horse! Good thing they had Lobdell and Nicenza to do over melodramatic Claremont impersonations and annual crossovers!
The Take Out Bandit
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Speaking of leaving to form Image. . .
And if I'm not mistaken he draws digital now, so there's no reason the proportions should be this fucked up, but it's Todd McFarlane and he's never been a fan of accurate proportions.
And if I'm not mistaken he draws digital now, so there's no reason the proportions should be this fucked up, but it's Todd McFarlane and he's never been a fan of accurate proportions.
Speaking of leaving to form Image. . .
And if I'm not mistaken he draws digital now, so there's no reason the proportions should be this fucked up, but it's Todd McFarlane and he's never been a fan of accurate proportions.
quoting so i can see
god i hate 90s art styles
I meant I intend to get all the Season One titles.
The Take Out Bandit
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Some 90's art styles still hold up (for fans), see also: Jim Lee and his legion of fangirls.
McFarlame's problem is he stopped drawing and started funding inaction figure production and buying baseballs. He can now coast on his name alone. :\
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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The X-Men books got better when Jim Lee left, for awhile at least.
yeah but i think Jim Lee's art style is bad too
I know these are just images, but he should be able to make the characters come to life and move around the panels. Everybody looks like they're standing still. Everybody has the same body type. There's always these useless hatching lines everywhere that don't communicate anything to me except confusion.
I give Quitely shit, but he knows how to use a character's body language to an advantage instead of letting speech bubbles say it all for him. I don't get that with Jim Lee.
I know these are just images, but he should be able to make the characters come to life and move around the panels. Everybody looks like they're standing still. Everybody has the same body type. There's always these useless hatching lines everywhere that don't communicate anything to me except confusion.
I give Quitely shit, but he knows how to use a character's body language to an advantage instead of letting speech bubbles say it all for him. I don't get that with Jim Lee.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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He's toned down the lines quite a bit. Thankfully that trend is gone. The complaint about his characters being stiff is still valid though. He was miles better than his contemporaries when it came to anatomy and composition though which I think is why he was so popular. He could do the crazy Liefeld/McFarlane style and have it make some kind of sense.
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