I'm really unhappy with Action Comics too but Morrison's work usually works a lot better when read in trade format, his weirdness usually pays off in the long run.
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I'm really unhappy with Action Comics too but Morrison's work usually works a lot better when read in trade format, his weirdness usually pays off in the long run.
Spike Spiegel
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Like Jesus Saiz on the artwork for Birds of Prey? Too bad, they're moving him to Resurrection Man.
Maybe, but I honestly don't see it happening with this book right now. I was totally on board at the start of this series, but once he started having Superman fighting off an army of boring mechs in issue four, and then messing with time in the origin story, I just tuned out. It was interesting seeing Superman as a street level hero, instead of a cosmic messiah. Had he stuck to that, I would have kept on reading. Who knows, though? Maybe he'll get back to that with the next few issues. If he does, I'll just wait for the trades as you stated.
When I first saw him on some Uncanny X-Men from last year I thought he was a poor man's Liefeld. Is that too harsh to say? After seeing him in some Hulk now for a couple issues I could upgrade him to a poor man's Silvestri. Still not a fan.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I read 12 issues, that's more than enough. Invincible is too light, too sparse and not exciting/funny/violent/horrific/gorgeous enough to sustain my interest.
I read WatXM earlier today, loved it. Bradshaw is a cool artist and I love the colours with it. The only issue I have with it is the Bratz-esque eyes he draws on everyone. Wolvie looks cute and cuddly. Wolvie should never look cute and cuddly. Great book though and I just love the tone of it, it's just so joyful.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
So wait... take him from a book where he draws cute women with red noses and put him on a book where he draws a gizzled man, who will most likely have a red nose too? Fucking godammit DC, you had a good thing going there. Saiz is one of the very few artists I can think of who draws women who are both insanely attractive and proportionate/realistic looking.
Spike Spiegel
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Ed Benes.
Kidding! They haven't announced that yet.
On the subject of Whilce Portacio, I think things could have turned out differently if he'd sought to reinvent his artistic style after his coma, instead of trying (and failing) to get back to where he was before. Change the medium he uses, go for simpler linework, use a gestural approach, anything -- because obviously the line control isn't there anymore.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
UGH DC enough with the FUCKING GIMMICKS.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
You joke, but that joke hits too close to home! It'll be fucking Jim Balent or some bullshit knowing what DC are like recently.
From what I've been told it gets really bloody and violent later on in the series.
I haven't picked it up because I really have no interest in the series and I think Kirkman is an overrated hack.
If you want a fun violent book LUTHER STRODE!
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Hells yeahs, getting that in trade after the first issue blew me away. That's a keeper.
Spike Spiegel
Member
Just announced: Travel Foreman on Birds of Prey, off Animal Man. DC doing the artist shuffle today it would seem.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
WHOA
Travel Foreman is on BoP!
Travel Foreman is on BoP!
FUUUUUCK!
Foreman's art was a perfect fit for Animal Man & part of the appeal for me.
I'll still pick up the book because Lemire has been great so far but I'm not a fan of the switch.
Has anyone been picking up Sweet Tooth?
God dammit, Foreman has been killing it on Animal Man.
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Maybe they'll finally get Mahnke off Green Lantern, his current run hasn't been bad but I wouldn't mind someone new drawing it.
VGChampion
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Now that Severed has come to an end, I must say, it was good and kept me interested but the ending didn't do it for me.
Wolverine and the X-Men as good as ever. I can't get enough of this book and thankfully this week we got that other mini going on with Quire which was even better than the first issue.
Secret Avengers was so much better than the .1 issue so I guess I'll probably stick with this new roster for awhile. Got kind of lost in the last part of the issue so we'll see how it goes.
And finally, not sold on this Venom story. May just wait for the actual next issue to come out and save $6.
Wolverine and the X-Men as good as ever. I can't get enough of this book and thankfully this week we got that other mini going on with Quire which was even better than the first issue.
Secret Avengers was so much better than the .1 issue so I guess I'll probably stick with this new roster for awhile. Got kind of lost in the last part of the issue so we'll see how it goes.
And finally, not sold on this Venom story. May just wait for the actual next issue to come out and save $6.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
That is so fucking dumb it make me rage. Foreman is literally perfect on Animal Man - the body horror, the fantastic subtle body language with the kids, the crazy psychedelia... But he's not shown any propensity to drawing hot super women. Unlike Saiz who just kills it every time. Damn it DC, a couple of the books you actually get right and then this. Dicks.
Glad to see he's doing more comics work, but I have zero interest in Smallville :/
Spike Spiegel
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Steve Pugh is coming back to Animal Man, replaces Travel Foreman.
EDIT: So far today we've got...
-Steve Pugh on Animal Man.
-Travel Foreman off Animal Man, on Birds of Prey.
-Jesus Saiz off Birds of Prey, on Resurrection Man.
-Fernando Dagnino off Resurrection Man, on Suicide Squad.
Oh, and Marcus To replacing Ben Oliver on Batwing from earlier this month.
EDIT: So far today we've got...
-Steve Pugh on Animal Man.
-Travel Foreman off Animal Man, on Birds of Prey.
-Jesus Saiz off Birds of Prey, on Resurrection Man.
-Fernando Dagnino off Resurrection Man, on Suicide Squad.
Oh, and Marcus To replacing Ben Oliver on Batwing from earlier this month.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
fuckin love pugh
God damn it, I just started reading Animal Man. Foreman was perfect on that book.
FUCKING WHAT? There has to be a way to prevent this from happening. What reason could DC possibly have to fuck with what has become one of their most unlikely hits from the relaunch???
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Uh, Steve Pugh is taking over not Ed Benes, jeepers creepers.
DC really doesn't have a clear game plan at the moment and it's kind of sad.
I'm going to as Didio next time he's in the store because this is just RIDIC, it makes no sense what so ever.
I might as well be me taking over if it's not Foreman. That book needed to stay Lemire and Foreman forever. There is no good god damned reason to break up a team on a book as successful as AM is. I love the hell out of Lemire's work on that book but the reason why it is my number one, must have book every month is because of the combination of both.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
lol has Foreman even drawn every issue so far?
Just checked. Pugh and John Paul Leon have already drawn parts of issues.
Leon did a compartmentalized, side story (one of Buddy's movies) in the latest issue. All the rest of it has been Foreman aside from 3 interior pages from Pugh in issue 5, none of which had anything to do with all the amazing totems and monsters Foreman has been killing it on. This has been Foreman's book through and through.
BlueScrote
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The last issue (or two?) seemed like filler. I think they are waiting for Morales to catch up to continue with real story.
krypt0nian
Banned
Pugh on AM is an upgrade.
Upgrade or downgrade is irrelevant. Foreman's work on AM was unique and the reason I fell in love with the book.
That said, fears assuaged as Pugh's pages look alright. He's a good enough replacement, but I'd still rather have Foreman stay on it. Also I'd like to see how Pugh will handle the actual horror pages and not just the family stuff.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
On that Chris Weston tip!!! SO GOOD.
Of All Trades
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I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the series as it currently stands at ~90 issues is not in high school. Part of the appeal of Invincible is that it doesn't remain remotely static. And it gets really, really violent.
More baffling is that you seem to still like Walking Dead, which is like the definition of a comic that's stuck on autopilot while it circles the drain. It's worse than Irredeemable, and I consider that to be the poster child for a comic that keeps on going just because the writer doesn't know how to end it (although thankfully it's going to end soon).
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Why DC. WHY?!?!?!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
They pre-built a "Haters gonna Hate" walk into the statue
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Exactly!! It's perfect! The very first statue I've ever wanted to buy ever.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I like Walking Dead just because it's so emotionally draining. It's unlike any other comic I've read where that sense of dread and fuckeduppedness pervade through the whole thing. It's all about circling the drain, that's why I like it.
Invincible was OK but it's just about a kid who can hit things hard. Nothing in that first 12 issues grabbed me, whereas theres always something in every WD trade that blows my mind or makes me cry uncontrollably.
Of All Trades
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I meant circling the drain as in going nowhere before ending. I suppose there's an apt comparison of the quality of WD to the tone of WD but the prison sequence, which was already silly, ended like 4 years ago. When I quit reading WD it had moved well beyond "sense of dread" and into "still sells, TV show incoming, gotta keep writing this mindless churn".
If anything Invincible is like the reverse of WD. Invincible started a bit slow but then sped way up, whereas WD started fast and now goes nowhere.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Travel Foreman:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=14694456#post14694456
Ok, I guess I don't feel so confused with DC now.
e: Birdie beat me
Ok, I guess I don't feel so confused with DC now.
e: Birdie beat me
Sucks that he's leaving, but I can totally see where he's coming from on this.
Travel Foreman:
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Forget all this art stuff, did anyone crack open the new Green Lantern?!?
DEAR LORD.
DEAR LORD.
Just saw the Jan 2012 comic sales rankings. Not Marvel's best showing
Also, I was surprised to see that the core X-titles are outselling the core Avengers titles. Seems to have been that way for the past few months as well since Schism. It's been awhile since the X-Men were Marvel's best selling franchise.
Also, I was surprised to see that the core X-titles are outselling the core Avengers titles. Seems to have been that way for the past few months as well since Schism. It's been awhile since the X-Men were Marvel's best selling franchise.
This is probably all my fault since I'm a big X-Men fan and I've been buying all that shit, even the not-so-great ones, since I got into comics in September.
Also, is it really that surprising considering Schism was generally well received and lead to a paradigm shift in the dynamics of the X-Men teams and Fear Itself was relatively poorly received and there has been a lot of people getting burned out on Bendis' Avengers. This doesn't seem all that shocking to me.
I figured I was the only one reading it. Other than Mike Choi's art (nothing against him, just didn't think it fit the book especially his Hal) it was fantastic. I'm guessing Sinestro's
vision from the Book of Black
the White Power Ring and Black Hand freed from the Indigo Tribe
The X-title crossovers have been generally better than the Avenger crossovers during the past 5 years, and the line has seen a lot of paradigm shifts (some good, some bad). Bendis burnout probably has a lot to do with it though.
BenjaminBirdie
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