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[BenjaminBirdie]

Honestly?

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...Read Jaka's story, then quit. There's still some interesting stuff in the later volumes, and it doesn't get full on unreadable slog until about 2/3rds through, but yeah that sounds about right

Madness. Going Home and Form & Void are still essential reads due to the world class levels of cartooning storytelling on display. I'd say Sim still has his chops all the way to the end. The entire series is a must read for anyone interested in the potential of the medium.

 

[Dance Inferno]

I just read the first issue of Watchmen. Is it me or do these older books pack a LOT more story per issue? I must have spent a good half hour working my way through the issue, I could swear there was the equivalent of three of today's floppies worth of story in there. I don't get why today's books have to be so anemic in comparison, I would gladly pay $4 for something this hefty week in week out.

 

[Mr. Sam]

e: and just saying it's nerdy Pawn Stars is reductive and silly. In the entire hour they had what 3, 4 people come in with shit to sell? Much more of the show was them talking about 101 level comic book fandom and picking on the little Asian guy.

Ming. Ming Chen.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

Ming. Ming Chen.

Ming is awesome, he's like a human punching bag I often wonder if he just cries himself to sleep. They're so much nastier to him on the pod than they could ever get away with on TV as well. He's just indominatable.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

I just read the first issue of Watchmen. Is it me or do these older books pack a LOT more story per issue? I must have spent a good half hour working my way through the issue, I could swear there was the equivalent of three of today's floppies worth of story in there. I don't get why today's books have to be so anemic in comparison, I would gladly pay $4 for something this hefty week in week out.

Unfortunately Alan Moore can't write all the comics. Plus they had a heftier page count back then. Sandman is also a nice chunky read.

That said though it's not all about words-per-page. I'm reading Essex Count by Jeff Lemire right now and it's so sparse with barely three panels to a page and only a few words in each of them. But it's absolutely stunning, one of the best books I've ever read. Comics is more than just words on pictures, sometimes the art can stand by itself.

And of course, some comics are just shitty fight books written by hacks. Swings and roundabouts.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Invincible Iron Man by Fraction/Larracoa is actually pretty darn good when you read it in big chucks like I am. The individual issues leave something to be desired, but when you look at them as chapters, they work pretty darn well. Plus, the decompressed pace allows Fraction time to do much of his character work, which is REALLY good, for the most part. He has maybe my favorite Tony Stark voice; narcissistic but caring, always a clever solution to problems right around the corner, like buying a soda bottling company for distribution. You can't get certain meds in Africa, but you can bet there's a Coke machine just around the corner. Just lots of fun, futurist solutions.

Fraction really is a clever writer, but as good as he is on Iron Man, its equally matched in terribleness of Might Thor. Flat, wrong characterization, glacial pacing, and he never sticks the landing to any of his stories so far. And the less said about his X-men run, the better.

 

[neojubei]

Ming. Ming Chen.

He is pretty cute.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Invincible Iron Man by Fraction/Larracoa is actually pretty darn good when you read it in big chucks like I am. The individual issues leave something to be desired, but when you look at them as chapters, they work pretty darn well. Plus, the decompressed pace allows Fraction time to do much of his character work, which is REALLY good, for the most part. He has maybe my favorite Tony Stark voice; narcissistic but caring, always a clever solution to problems right around the corner, like buying a soda bottling company for distribution. You can't get certain meds in Africa, but you can bet there's a Coke machine just around the corner. Just lots of fun, futurist solutions.

Fraction really is a clever writer, but as good as he is on Iron Man, its equally matched in terribleness of Might Thor. Flat, wrong characterization, glacial pacing, and he never sticks the landing to any of his stories so far. And the less said about his X-men run, the better.

He's responsible for Kid Loki, and thus vindicated for every issue of Thor he has ever written or will ever write, but let's stick to Iron Man.

Yes, it is the best. 500.1 is one of the best single Iron Man stories of all time.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

He's responsible for Kid Loki, and thus vindicated for every issue of Thor he has ever written or will ever write, but let's stick to Iron Man.

Yes, it is the best. 500.1 is one of the best single Iron Man stories of all time.

....dammit he did kid loki...i cant say anything negative about the guy then...maybe if JiM sucked but its one of the best ongoings regardless of company that money can buy.

 

[Dance Inferno]

always a clever solution to problems right around the corner, like buying a soda bottling company for distribution. You can't get certain meds in Africa, but you can bet there's a Coke machine just around the corner.

This actually sounds like a pretty bad idea to me. A soda bottling company bottles soda. I would assume they use the services of a logistics company to distribute their product. Why not just buy a distribution company? Or better yet, why not just hire the services of a distribution company? Much cheaper than getting into a full-blow acquisition, no?

Sorry, just my finance side ranting. I get annoyed when financial transactions are incorrectly portrayed in popular media.

On a more relevant note, I was listening to iFanboy's Don't Miss podcast and they mentioned Peter Panzerfaust, so I looked it up and it seems pretty interesting. Did a Wikipedia brush-up on my Peter Pan mythology and now I'm ready to jump in to the first issue come Wednesday.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

It wasn't so much for distribution as it was their product saturation and availability. Stark buys it to supply aid in third world countries through the pre-existing shipping and distribution method.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

I just read the first issue of Watchmen. Is it me or do these older books pack a LOT more story per issue? I must have spent a good half hour working my way through the issue, I could swear there was the equivalent of three of today's floppies worth of story in there. I don't get why today's books have to be so anemic in comparison, I would gladly pay $4 for something this hefty week in week out.

Because comics used to be written to sell individual issues and now they're written to sell trade paperbacks.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

you can always tell how old Tatsumaki is

and I mean that in most endearing way possible

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

I'm not that old I just like old comics

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Speaking of old comics RIP John Severin

 

[Satch]

I'm not that old I just like old comics

it's okay

he thought i was 30

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I wasn't alone on that thought!

 

[Dance Inferno]

I read the first issue of Memorial by Chris Roberson. You guys check this out? It's pretty good actually. I read it on Comixology, but I'm wondering if I should get the rest of the issues online or in floppies. I like the guided view technology of Comixology since I feel like I spend more time admiring each panel, but I also enjoy the feeling of reading a tangible book. Decisions, decisions...

 

[Spike Spiegel]

What's so bad about being thirty... -ish? :|

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

It's the new 20

 

[Satch]

What's so bad about being thirty... -ish? :|

when you're 21, it stings a bit

 

[Sanjuro]

Anyone hear about the fate of All Star: B&R or Dark Knight: Boy Wonder?

Anything?

:'(

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Anyone hear about the fate of All Star: B&R or Dark Knight: Boy Wonder?

Anything?

:'(

Yeah it's coming out February 2011

 

[Spike Spiegel]

when you're 21, it stings a bit

Holy crap! :O

...Do your parents know you're posting here?

 

[kswiston]

That said though it's not all about words-per-page. I'm reading Essex County by Jeff Lemire right now and it's so sparse with barely three panels to a page and only a few words in each of them. But it's absolutely stunning, one of the best books I've ever read. Comics is more than just words on pictures, sometimes the art can stand by itself.

Considering I grew up in the Essex County that Lemire based his trilogy on, I should probably get around to reading those books...

 

[Anticitizen One]

when you're 21, it stings a bit

I recently turned 27. It kinda sucks knowing that this is the end :/

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Man, I hope Liefeld doesn't kill his hype new line like the Infinite. I called my shop to request I don't get the Liefeld Glory cover.

Sorry man, you're not even drawing her on model to the new look! >:|

Anybody pick up Witchblade since Tim Seeley took over? I'm always interested in trying to get back into the series, but it never works. I've never read anything from Seeley but I know plenty of rubes like his stuff.

 

[krypt0nian]

....dammit he did kid loki...i cant say anything negative about the guy then...maybe if JiM sucked but its one of the best ongoings regardless of company that money can buy.

Gilles is responsible for Kid Loki. If Fraction was writing JiM it would be as bad as Mighty Thor.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

Considering I grew up in the Essex County that Lemire based his trilogy on, I should probably get around to reading those books...

EVERYONE should read it, it's incredible. I just finished the second volume last night on my bus ride home. TEARS IN PUBLIC. That's how good this book is.

 

[Dance Inferno]

EVERYONE should read it, it's incredible. I just finished the second volume last night on my bus ride home. TEARS IN PUBLIC. That's how good this book is.

Or, you know, you're just a wimp.

I kid. I read some excerpts on Amazon yesterday - it was pretty damn good.

 

[Jedeye Sniv]

Or, you know, you're just a wimp.

I kid. I read some excerpts on Amazon yesterday - it was pretty damn good.

Oh I know I'm a wimp too. But comics are my achilles heel, out of all the media I consume they are the most likely to make me cry. Fucking Sandman does it to me every other issue as I'm reading through it. The bit with Martin Tenbones left me a wreck. I was explaining what happened to my wife and I started sniffling again, it's pathetic!

 

[BluWacky]

I read the first issue of Memorial by Chris Roberson. You guys check this out? It's pretty good actually. I read it on Comixology, but I'm wondering if I should get the rest of the issues online or in floppies. I like the guided view technology of Comixology since I feel like I spend more time admiring each panel, but I also enjoy the feeling of reading a tangible book. Decisions, decisions...

I'm tempted, but I was a bit disappointed by iZombie (by the same writer). Admittedly, that was because I didn't really like the art very much rather than the story, but it seemed a bit cheesy from the first trade.

Memorial sounds interesting - is it a limited series or ongoing?

 

[Dance Inferno]

I'm tempted, but I was a bit disappointed by iZombie (by the same writer). Admittedly, that was because I didn't really like the art very much rather than the story, but it seemed a bit cheesy from the first trade.

Memorial sounds interesting - is it a limited series or ongoing?

It's an ongoing, but it's a series of minis. The first run is 6 issues I believe. I picked up the first 3 issues at the comic book store this morning and read through them. Damn. Roberson said he spent the better part of a decade thinking up the world for this story, and it shows. The world is so complex and the mystery is unfolded little by little in front of your eyes. There are hints here and there in the art, and the story doesn't give away too much too fast. It gives you enough of a drip to keep you learning new things, but still wanting to know more. It's great.

The art is fantastic too. The protagonist is a normal looking female - no massive boobs, no provocative poses, just a normal girl stuck in a weird situation and trying to cope as best as she can. I say pick it up and see how you feel about it, I am thoroughly enjoying it. I even bought a floppy of the first issue even though I already bought it on Comixology, just so I could admire it again.

Oh I know I'm a wimp too. But comics are my achilles heel, out of all the media I consume they are the most likely to make me cry. Fucking Sandman does it to me every other issue as I'm reading through it. The bit with Martin Tenbones left me a wreck. I was explaining what happened to my wife and I started sniffling again, it's pathetic!

Oh wow that's intense. I rarely get choked up at any kind of media, and the only kind that can do that to me is movies. I just don't find other forms of media as powerful in terms of the emotions they engender. It's great that you get so involved with comics though, no wonder you like them so much.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Gilles is responsible for Kid Loki. If Fraction was writing JiM it would be as bad as Mighty Thor.

Kid Loki wouldn't exist without Fraction. It was his idea. Whether you like Fraction or not, it's incontrovertible.

 

[krypt0nian]

Kid Loki wouldn't exist without Fraction. It was his idea. Whether you like Fraction or not, it's incontrovertible.

Oh he created him. Gillen made him live. There's no question.

Fraction is on the way to Loebville.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Oh he created him. Gillen made him live. There's no question.

Fraction is on the way to Loebville.

Looking forward to Loeb ever coming close to writing a page like this one.

I get the impression that maybe? Possibly? Not sure? That you don't like Matt Fraction's writing? I think?

But let's not say things we can't take back.

 

[Futureman]

not into superhero comics, but I just went through a lot of Jim Woodring's work.

anything similar out there to the Frank comics? Absolutely in love with Frank and his world.

also making a cartoon with friends right now, and I just finished "Understanding Comics." Obviously cartoons and comics are quite different, but I thought I picked up some good stuff that I can apply to my cartoon. Will be going through "Making Comics" next.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Sometimes I wonder if there's two Matt Fractions, the one who writers the clever comic bookery of Casanova, and the one who does the decompressed out-of-character garbage like Uncanny X-men and Fear Itself. It would explain SO MUCH!

So Cullen Bunn is replacing Jason Aaron on Wolverine in April. Haven't read anything from him yet, so I don't know what to expect, although Chris Samnee draws a killer cover art for it!

I think I'm gonna re-read Aaron's Wolverine run, just to have it all fresh in my head for this finale story arc in Japan.

 

[Of All Trades]

not into superhero comics, but I just went through a lot of Jim Woodring's work.

anything similar out there to the Frank comics? Absolutely in love with Frank and his world.

Similar how? Maybe stuff by Jason if it's the lack of words that you want.

 

[LiQuid!]

Dat Samnee!

Looks like somebody picked up on Comic-GAF's pervy finger sniff observation from the Daredevil preview last week.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02...ionally-hilarious-moment-for-quite-some-time/

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Dat Samnee!

Looks like somebody picked up on Comic-GAF's pervy finger sniff observation from the Daredevil preview last week.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02...ionally-hilarious-moment-for-quite-some-time/

What a dick. I Twittered that the second I saw it last week. Dude needs to get his own jokes and not steal them from me.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Wolverine with afropuffs! LOL LOL LOL

It's Glory day suckers! Go get you some.

 

[LiQuid!]

What the fuck, it's Wednesday!?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Still at work, thinking about comics

 

[krypt0nian]

Looking forward to Loeb ever coming close to writing a page like this one.

I get the impression that maybe? Possibly? Not sure? That you don't like Matt Fraction's writing? I think?

But let's not say things we can't take back.

I liked his writing. I hate it lately. Casanova may be great but I'm not interested.

His output that I've read lately is Loeb quality IMO.

 

[Parallax]

What a dick. I Twittered that the second I saw it last week. Dude needs to get his own jokes and not steal them from me.

Birdie you need to go on a rant on your site.

 

[Viewt]

So this week continues Scott Synder's plan to slowly kill Batman.

Love it love it love it.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

So this week continues Scott Synder's plan to slowly kill Batman.

Love it love it love it.

Scott Snyder seems like a writer after my own heart. <3

 

[ViewtifulJC]

lol that fuckin' Batman eye. I feel like I'm in an Edgar Allen Poe story, I just want to stab that thing.

 

[BlueScrote]

Reread Year One last night. It's crazy how much is fit into each issue (To reiterate what someone said about Watchmen earlier). I finally picked up on the scars on falcone also. I'm not sure how I missed that the last time I read it.