ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'll make you a deal, TTOB. I'll stop mentioning how shitty Erik Larsen is at everything he does(including Twitter rants and message board debates), you stop talking about Frank "GOAT" Quitely.
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COMICS February |OT| of Curious (Black) Creators & Curious (Black) Characters!
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Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Lmao! Well at least I know how to feel, you automaton! *sniff*
I've not read Catwoman yet but I've been really digging the series so far. Winick and March make the book about so much more than just boobie comix because even though March can draw the hell out of some wobbly woman bits it seems that all the sexiness is just a defence mechanism for Selina, and you keep getting these peeks behind it to this really unhinged and manic person underneath it all. It's really fascinating. I think she does enjoy what she does, and she likes the being sexy part, but it's also a wall she puts up to protect herself, along with that practiced cool and disconnected persona she uses. It's a really 3D representation of a character and doesn't get the respect it deserves.
I read Batman last night though and I loved it. This arc is all about the eye, as I was reading the issue the eye symbolism just popped out at me and I realised that Snyder and Capullo have actually been using it through the whole run, from Batman's mask in the first issue, to the sequence with Talon's eyes in #3 and I'm sure a lot more besides. But more than anything the bit that got me was the eye-acting in the sequence where the kids are clawing at it. Going from fear to acceptance to defiance in three panels of a bloodshot eye is just amazing storytelling, it floored me. And then you have all the connotations of vulnerability and humanity and desperation that go along with this exposed eyeball... man, this is some next level stuff. You can really tell Snyder's horror roots when he uses little details like this.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Epting is pretty good about consistently hitting deadlines. He's definitely had times where he's been through a year without needing a fill in.
Also, someone asked Capullo about fill ins not too long ago and his response was "I NEVER need fill ins"
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Man, Ultimate X-Men sucked pretty hard this month. I read the thing in about three minutes, the plot didn't move forward an inch and most eggregiously they had Wanda in the most ridiculous costume I have seen for a good long time. Her reveal page made my eyes bug out - it's just boobs. Standing there, arms folded, big floppy boobies squished up. WTF? The girl is standing there in what is pretty much a strapless moulded plastic bra and it looks totally idiotic. I really am all for sexy, but that was just... I don't even know. Juvenile? Pointless? Baffling?
It's a shame too because I like the artist a lot, his cartoony style is really nice to read, and I like(d) the focus on the young mutants and Johnny that were in Ultimate Spidey.
But yeah, the issue was flimsy and worthless. It felt like it should have been a four page sequence in a full issue, certainly not worth $4 of anyone's money.
It's a shame too because I like the artist a lot, his cartoony style is really nice to read, and I like(d) the focus on the young mutants and Johnny that were in Ultimate Spidey.
But yeah, the issue was flimsy and worthless. It felt like it should have been a four page sequence in a full issue, certainly not worth $4 of anyone's money.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Re: Epting, the dude can barely do three issues in a row of Fantastic Four before taking a month off. I don't know about his previous form, but whatever speed he once had he has no lost.
And as for Capullo, the dude is a workhorse. He was on Spawn when I used to read it as a kid and he was on it for years without a fill in. I'm more than happy to read him and Snyder forever.
Spike Spiegel
Member
The b*tching about this week's Batman has me curious... how would you people have wanted Bruce to get out of this predicament? Because Snyder WAS going to have to write him out of it; people don't buy Batman every month to watch him hopelessly get beaten and tortured on every page.
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Well, most people don't. I'll admit that, for some, that's right up their alley.
But those people are freaks.
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Well, most people don't. I'll admit that, for some, that's right up their alley.
But those people are freaks.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Man, I loved it. Because even after getting a second wind and turning the tables, Bruce is still totally fucked. Only now he's drowning, which is even worse! For me, the best Batman moments are where he's beaten down and it's all hopeless and then he turns the tables like he did this issue. It's what I call the "fuck yeah Batman!" moments. Snyder did it before when Dick punched James out in the climax of that story, and Morrison did it spectaularly a few times, like when Bruce bust out of the grave in RIP, or when he came back from the dead in B&R 15. This is why I read Batman, for moments like that, when I literally say out loud "Fuck yeah Batman!!"
The Take Out Bandit
Member
It is my policy to never negotiate with terrorists, or high yella funnybook reading brothas.
It isn't about me consciously knowing what should happen in the end better than Snyder. It's about knowing that Snyder's a great writer and could have come up with something better than that.
Shoot, I would have liked it better if Batman just Hulked Out the rest of the way through instead of becoming coherent again with his "Teehee I can taste the minerals in the water, and I know what kind of marble this is, and hehehe potassium chlorate explodes when ignited which is why I took it from under your nose!!!" Or hey, I'll play nice and even say that everything could have gone exactly as it did in B#6 - just get rid of Batman's talking. Capullo is a great artist, and he should be used to communicate that stuff instead of having a drugged up Batman relay the information in coherent sentences.
He should have been shown with some semblance of this level of awareness last issue instead of saving it for now. You can't just will your brain to function as usual straight off of mind altering drugs by seeing a sad picture of your gramps.
notworksafe
Member
Giving Oatmeal Art Terribly?
awesome.
Spike Spiegel
Member
He also got stabbed and beaten, something he didn't have happen in #5; an elevated heartrate and adrenaline levels may have played a hand in counteracting the drug's effects enough to induce a more lucid state. He was still pretty messed up, and sounded a bit desperate to be honest, but his grandfather's photo provided a focal point that perhaps he wouldn't have been able to recognize unless he was already starting to come around physiologically.
And honestly? "'World's Greatest Detective' being resourceful and clever enough to manage an escape despite being drugged and injured" is a far better outcome than "pummels his way out of problems." It's OK for Batman to MacGuyver things, that's part of his M.O.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
This will make waiting for the trade for two years, or however long it takes DC to publish it in a non-retarded format, bearable.
Read Lucius Hammer from Ravenhammer Comics.
I thought it had cool art, and it does - but ugh. Story is borderline White Hating Coon from Chasing Amy, or pretty much every stereotypical pro-African American (or fictionalized Afrocentrism) comic ever made. It rushes through our heroes potentially interesting origin, the fact that he lives longer than most mortals (if he even is one), through two wars, and goes right to fighting whitey in the present day.
All the while doing the, "White Superheroes fight crime like this. Black Superheroes fight crime like this." schtick! >:O
Come on man, you're wasting the talented artist and reader's time with this weak ass writing. Such a bummer because the character looks cool and the art has an Ed McGuinness vibe.
BlueScrote
Member
This issue basically prompted my Ultimate universe rant earlier. It's awful. It focused on a character who I honestly don't give a damn about.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Nick Spencer has the Bad Fraction-itis. I have disavowed ever picking up another book he wrote after being burned on THUNDER Agents, Secret Avengers, AND Iron Man 2.0. Just the WORST kind of decompressed storytelling.
Thunder AGENTS #7, for example(of many). A whole page consist of a woman on a plane, getting a glass of water. That's it. There's nothing special about the water, the water doesn't have any meaningful thematic resonance to the plot, no. Its four panels of jack shit, in a 20 page $3 dollar book. This shit is just soooo lazy, and does nobody any favors(unless you're writing half a dozen books at the time like Spencer so you gotta shit out scripts real quick for that money).
Thunder AGENTS #7, for example(of many). A whole page consist of a woman on a plane, getting a glass of water. That's it. There's nothing special about the water, the water doesn't have any meaningful thematic resonance to the plot, no. Its four panels of jack shit, in a 20 page $3 dollar book. This shit is just soooo lazy, and does nobody any favors(unless you're writing half a dozen books at the time like Spencer so you gotta shit out scripts real quick for that money).
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
all I know from that guy was them hyping him on Supergirl and he bailed lol
ViewtifulJC
Banned
He did some great Jimmy Olsen, though.
They announced Luke Ross is drawing the next Ultimates story arc. I think Ribic is coming back to Uncanny X-Force.
Thank god, more Ribic and Opena, less whoever the fuck this guy is on the Otherworld arc right now
They announced Luke Ross is drawing the next Ultimates story arc. I think Ribic is coming back to Uncanny X-Force.
Thank god, more Ribic and Opena, less whoever the fuck this guy is on the Otherworld arc right now
Father_Brain
Banned
Hickman is also leaving Ultimates (maybe for Avengers?), to be replaced by Sam Humphries (Our Love Is Real).
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Hickman said he got an offer he couldn't refuse. Please be taking one of these Avengers books away from Bendis.
krypt0nian
Banned
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Brahs when does Archie superheroes release? It was supposed to happen online this month.
And Hickman's offer he couldn't refuse was to create a Squirrel Girl ongoing.
And Hickman's offer he couldn't refuse was to create a Squirrel Girl ongoing.
notworksafe
Member
Only in my dreams!
Actually my real dream would be reboot of Great Lakes Avengers...
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Oh wow, no Ribic OR Hickman?? Dropped like a shitty stone... That just leaves Ultimate Spidey for me now
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Hickman has said in a lot of interviews that his favorite comic book character is Cyclops and it's his dream to write Uncanny X-Men so it might be that. I'm not sure his ultra decompressed style would mesh with X-Men or Avengers to be honest.
BlueScrote
Member
Well that didn't take long.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
You know what really bugs me about comics? How they give away plot points in the solicits. "A TEAM MEMBER DIES! GREEN LANTERN REVEALS A HUGE SECRET! BATMAN POOPS ON THE JOKER!" FFS let us discover this stuff on our own. I hate it when movies/games/whatever give away plot points in their advertising; it robs me of the joy of discovering it within the context of the story.
Yes I really really hate this. I go to pretty great lengths to avoid solicits and I rarely ever look at previews, but it's still next to goddamned impossible to avoid all spoilers if you're anywhere near the internet.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Bugs me too. Comics are the worst about it. To be fair most spoilers come because the comic book companies put spoilers in the catalogs comic book stores use to order them and comic book stores don't want to order comics without knowing what they're about. It's just that in the age of the internet it's impossible to hide that kind of thing. Every now and then though Marvel and DC do plan their entire marketing campaign around a spoiler which is annoying.
favouriteflavour
Member
I don't mind the slow pacing in Thunder Agents because I read it several issues at a time. Could see how it could become bothersome though. My favourite book by Spencer aside from Jimmy Olsen special.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I swear the new 52s have ruined Blue Beetle. I'm starting to dislike the comic.
Yeah, I've dropped it entirely. Its the complete antithesis to the fun, charming, adventurous book it used to be. Now its just overwrought melodrama and angst, and not even the good Stan Lee kind. Bleh.
I swear the new 52s have ruined Blue Beetle. I'm starting to dislike the comic.
I feel your pain brother. Remember how his supporting cast was awesome?
I wouldn't say that Hickman's style is ultra decompressed. A ton has happened in his ~3 years on FF. His pacing is just not consistent. Some issues are packed with plot moving events, and others focus on a single conversation. Also, the books of his that I have read (FF, Secret Warriors, S.H.I.E.L.D.) always feel like they are building towards something massive which is a plus to me. Half the time if feels like the X-titles and Bendis' Avengers titles are just treading water until the next event. The books that DON'T feel that way (X-Force, optimistically WatXM) are the only ones I stick with long term. I have picked up and dropped Uncanny 3-4 times in the past 5 years. Typically between events.
krypt0nian
Banned
ALL OVER MY FACE!
Box of Bunnies
Banned
The "Before Watchmen" book I'm most keen for is Silk Spectre, entirely on the strength of Amanda Conner's art. She was half the reason I followed Power Girl for the first year of that book (the other half being the hoemance with Terra).
Conner's style would suit Laurie perfectly.
I feel your pain brother. Remember how his supporting cast was awesome?
Yeah. I'm reading old issues of blue beetle right now. Blue Beetle really didn't need a reboot. it was fine on its own. F U DC trying to make a quick buck. Does the comic even have a letters section anymore? I bet people are writing in to complain. Paco a gangbanger and now a beetle too. wtf. It seems DC is trying to get the book canceled. Even the art is horrible. Maybe it is best DC does cancel it before it gets any worse.
On a side note: I want JH Williams back drawing Batwoman. Amy Reeder makes a good effort but Williams just knows how to hit the right beat with Batwoman.
If I had won the 310million dollar powerball jackpot I would buy all of William's Batwoman artwork
http://www.jhwilliams3.com/displaycat.php?cat=pg&str=Batwoman&special=0
BlueScrote
Member
Looking at those pencils, the coloring adds a lot of distinction to his pencils. His final product is always about focused colors on sheen black, and it just pops like nothing else on the market.
Tizoc
Member
So what exactly happened in Wonder Woman this week?
Fav. reads this week were Batman and Daredevil.
I also read Atomic Robo and while this last issue explained everything...I dunno I didn't like it as much as the previous stories, but oh wells~
Need to start my Usagi Yojimbo, Hellboy and BPRD catch-up someday lol.
Fav. reads this week were Batman and Daredevil.
I also read Atomic Robo and while this last issue explained everything...I dunno I didn't like it as much as the previous stories, but oh wells~
Need to start my Usagi Yojimbo, Hellboy and BPRD catch-up someday lol.
Spike Spiegel
Member
Edgar Rice Burroughs Inc. sues Dynamite over 'Warlord of Mars' & 'Lord of the Jungle'
Also, if Dark Horse held the license, does that mean they're going after Marvel too? Of course not, because Marvel is owned by Disney, who's producing a terrible John Carter film that even if it bombs (likely) they no doubt stand to profit from. Does Marvel not have the rights in the UK?
With regards to the bolded portion: have these people never read their grandfather's books, or looked at any John Carter of Mars artwork produced since, well, EVER?
Also, if Dark Horse held the license, does that mean they're going after Marvel too? Of course not, because Marvel is owned by Disney, who's producing a terrible John Carter film that even if it bombs (likely) they no doubt stand to profit from. Does Marvel not have the rights in the UK?
Hahahaha! I wish someone would sue Zenescope now.Edgar Rice Burroughs Inc. sues Dynamite over 'Warlord of Mars' & 'Lord of the Jungle'
With regards to the bolded portion: have these people never read their grandfather's books, or looked at any John Carter of Mars artwork produced since, well, EVER?
Also, if Dark Horse held the license, does that mean they're going after Marvel too? Of course not, because Marvel is owned by Disney, who's producing a terrible John Carter film that even if it bombs (likely) they no doubt stand to profit from. Does Marvel not have the rights in the UK?
Shin Johnpv
Member
I will definitely be getting the Silk Spectre Before Watchmen book. Amanda Conner is easily one of my favorite artists out there right now.
Wait what? Explain!
Spike Spiegel
Member
Oh man.
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THIS. IS. GOLD. Gold, I tells ya! :lol
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Oh man.
http://marvel.com/news/story/18108/jean_grey_school_livetweet_recap
THIS. IS. GOLD. Gold, I tells ya! :lol
@QQuire Quentin Quire
I got caught doing that same thing on my computer in Psyche class and got detention for a week.
@GenesisHero Genesis
Where I come from in Kansas, Im pretty sure this sort of thing is illegal.
I lost it right here
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
@GenesisHero Genesis
I wonder why they havent replied to any of my letters?
I wonder why they havent replied to any of my letters?
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