I'll agree that the art took a huge hit. I thought the 8th City story was great though.
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COMICS! |OT| August 2013. The only time of year when everyone envies Bobby Drake.
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List for the week:
- Justice League #23
- Avengers Arena #14
- Captain America #10
- FF #11
- Thor: God of Thunder #12
- Uncanny Avengers #11
- Wolverine and the X-Men #35
- Young Avengers #9
Looking forward to quite a few of these. That said, I need to trim my list a bit. I haven't even finished my books from last week.
Avengers Arena and Young Avengers are ending for now, so that's two down. FF is also getting dropped when Fraction leaves. I haven't read Uncanny X-Force in 2 months, so that's gone. Not sure about Cable and the X-Force yet, and I can't think of much else to cut.
- Justice League #23
- Avengers Arena #14
- Captain America #10
- FF #11
- Thor: God of Thunder #12
- Uncanny Avengers #11
- Wolverine and the X-Men #35
- Young Avengers #9
Looking forward to quite a few of these. That said, I need to trim my list a bit. I haven't even finished my books from last week.
Avengers Arena and Young Avengers are ending for now, so that's two down. FF is also getting dropped when Fraction leaves. I haven't read Uncanny X-Force in 2 months, so that's gone. Not sure about Cable and the X-Force yet, and I can't think of much else to cut.
BuddyJoeHooker
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Wolverine and the X-Men #36 Preview (Spoilers)
I starting to get tired of Wolverine just taking blast from Cyclops constantly. I'm stating to miss snikt first, bub later Wolvie. Also someone needs to put Cyclops in his place if Wolvie won't.
BattleMonkey
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So new update for the marvel unlimited apps, but seems like someone fucked up. All the comics are free on Marvel Unlimited right now, including the current release stuff that you have to pay for in the digital store.
how much of multiversity exists?
Gillen has a new creator owned series called "Three" coming. It's about three slaves on the run from Sparta's 300.
That depends, what universe are you asking about?
GrandHarrier
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Status: It's complicated.
The answer is, yes and no. The biggest change is going to be the fact that they actually have super powers now as opposed to using gadgets. This obviously goes against the original creed of the Rogues, but is explained as being the decision/action of Captain Cold? I believe, who decided that they needed to make that sacrifice in order to be able to compete against the Flash. It wasn't a perfect transition, however, with some of them being sort of messed up by it in some interesting ways. Other aspects of their philosophy remain intact, like their no-kill policy.
The only other thing that is a little weird is which versions of some of the characters they used. My Rogues lore isn't THAT deep, but my good IRL friend questioned one of the New 52 Flash writer/artists at ECCC about some of the choices of those versions.
It's a great comic about one of my favorite super heroes at a price I can't argue with. Of course I'm gonna appreciate this!
I think my surprise at the Metal Men is more that I don't know who they are at all. I'm not really very familiar with anything in the DCU beyond the most well known gamut: Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and like, Martian Man Hunter and the Wonder Twins if they count. Really I know Batman and a little Superman and that's it.
I spent most of my teenage years reading Marvel, but with the state of the Ultimate Universe and all the junk that happened in X-Men after Grant Morrison left and to Spidey, I don't think I've read much Marvel since Civil War and AvX.
BuddyJoeHooker
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I read this series blind only picking up the trade a few years ago. That was a BIG mistake, it didn't include Countdown to Infinite Crisis, which is very important. Other than that there is a lot of lower tier heroes and villains you might not be familiar with and you might not get the motivations of certain characters.
Serpentine
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Gillen/Kelley oooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Rafa=FedKilla
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Got that preordered brah. All Image and Vertigo new fall series will be mine.
Also James Robinson said he is launching two new Marvel books early next year.
GrandHarrier
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Welcome to the glorious hobby where battle lines are drawn and redrawn every day. ;-) literally and figuratively.
It's probably the best and easiest time to get into comics for both of the big two and many indie titles are hitting out of the park.
I'd definitely suggest you dabble and see what you enjoy. As a general rule the cream rises to the top in ComicGAF so you can usually trust those suggestions.
Whatever you might end up reading over the course of this thread, never forget that comics fucking rule. That's the one thing we will all agree on, even when we say the exact opposite. We do that because we love, honest.
Welcome.
Welcome. Always glad to see someone get hip to what we all already know: Comics are cool, yo.
Enjoy your stay, and don't be afraid to ask for suggestions.
GrandHarrier
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Go back to reading your brony picture books, nerd!
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So I still haven't figured out if I'm getting all my sick 3D covers. Normally my roommate picks them up but I think I might go that first week to either experience the elation of getting them, or the unbridled nerd rage and entitlement.
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That's exactly the route I went and a lot was missing, a lot of the weight of different scenes simply wasn't there. I'm gearing up to re-read it once I fill in all the gaps.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
GrandHarrier pretty much covered everything, but I just wanted to add that the biggest problem with the Flash run now is it's very badly written and very boring. The art is phenomenal, some of the best stuff out there, but holy hell is the story just a poor clusterfuck.
The Rogues really just come off as shitty barely-character metas as opposed to this group of problematic fuckups with a mission and a code. Geoff Johns made me love The Rogues, but Brian Buch-whateverthefuck is setting shit back decades.
The Ultimates
From a Millar/Hitch blockbuster to a Loeb/MAD cesspool to Millar coming back with not much new to say and then to Hickman who rehashed a lot of his FF concepts before getting tired of it after 10 issues.
Now that I think about it, the better answer probably would have been the entire Ultimate universe.
What would you say is the best characterization of the rouges , if I may ask? Not that big of a flash guy.
BenjaminBirdie
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Not the best Cammunculi (sp?)
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Geoff Johns' Final Crisis: Rogues' Revenge. It's the Rogues dealing with the consequences of killing a speedster and it's three issues of Johns running through the psychology of what makes a Rogue a Rogue. It's one of my favorite villains-starring comics period.
I'm not a big Flash guy either, which is what makes me all the more aware that a writer who gets the core of the characters and can just tell a good story with them will win over readers, no matter how potentially lame the characters may seem.
GrandHarrier
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I don't think I'm quite so down on the writing. I think it's OK. I don't dislike it, but I think they are trying to go with a Wonder Woman style world building and showing how that can fail if not executed properly. Instead of long form story telling they should be doing quick 1-3 issue mini arcs. Show me the Flash being awesome and fast and awesome.
I will also add that some of the Rogues powers are kind of cool now. Specifically Captain Cold, but it's effect could have just been tech based. But I like it.
Seriously. And don't forget the awfulness that is the new Reverse Flash, so so terrible.
The book peaked with the Grodd story and the rest has been mediocre to bad.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Yeah, writing is what I look for in comics moreso than art, so I'm being harsh because there are all these beautiful images that I just can't enjoy because of the poorly assembled words vomited on them.
As for the powers, what made me love the Rogues was that they were just regular dudes with cool tech, no special superpowers, no nothing. Just low-level scum that came together under a leader who made them follow a code. Their tech, the elements, never made them who they were and I liked that aspect of Johns' take on them.
Yeah, that Rogues book was very good. Johns did a great job with that story.
slightconfuse
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Dropped flash after the Grodd stuff.
Still think reverse flash is wally
Still think reverse flash is wally
i'm legit (not that legit but a reasonable amount of legit) offended by this statement.
Also the writing in Flash is fine you big babies how the heck else would the pretty pictures work if there wasn't a straightforward, simple but effective plot with loads of neat characterizations? It wouldn't because comix are a team sport you dolts.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I agree. I dont see the overly offensive writing in The Flash. Morbius will open anyone's perspective on how bad writing can be.
I don't think the writing is bad per se, it's just boring.
GrandHarrier
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Also, Iris in a speedster costume makes me want Flash Iris. New 52 the shit out of her. Make it happen.
Aw yiss.
Heh, sometimes it seems like Morbius personally offended you.
Aw yiss.
Heh, sometimes it seems like Morbius personally offended you.
TetraxShards
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I'd like to see the explanation, although I was pleased with what we got. It was cool to see the other Academy kids again.
Oh wow, I hope that spoiler's not true.
I had a strong dislike of Hazmat throughout Avengers Academy, although I loved the book as a whole. #11 and "Let's go die trying." made me do a 180 on her. I'd almost forgotten about the flashforward in #1. I actually couldn't handle her dying right now.
Shin Johnpv
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I don't think the writing is so bad in the Flash, just not as ambitious as it could/should be I guess you could say. I hope Reverse Flash isn't Wally, cause then they've turned Wally into a killer.
I agree with Grand they need to be doing quick 1 - 3 issue arcs and get a bunch of stories told. For the fastest man a live they're moving his story along at a snails pace. Story wise they're just reaching now at 2 years where they probably should have been at 6 - 9 months in.
I agree with Grand they need to be doing quick 1 - 3 issue arcs and get a bunch of stories told. For the fastest man a live they're moving his story along at a snails pace. Story wise they're just reaching now at 2 years where they probably should have been at 6 - 9 months in.
The art is so good that I don't even mind the C-tier writing. One note characters with no personality everywhere, including Barry
As long as they leave the hair out, just giver her kick ass goggles, having the hair in suit in this case is kind of weird for me.
GrandHarrier
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Not exactly comic related, but sort of comic related; Seems that the next DC set for Heroclix is going to be Superman and the Legion of Super Heroes. I have the biggest nerd boner right now.
Not exactly comic related, but sort of comic related; Seems that the next DC set for Heroclix is going to be Superman and the Legion of Super Heroes. I have the biggest nerd boner right now.
Highfather and Mr Miracle, nice!
GrandHarrier
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Legion Lost, Legion Espionage Squad, New God's and Legion of Doom sub themes. Godlike all around.
Osht... Maybe even an Orion? D=
I don't play the game (or even know how it works) but I do have a Hal Jordan heroclix figure taped to my computer monitor at work.
slightconfuse
Banned
Unless its been claimed already.
Anyone mind if I try my hand at the September OT?
Anyone mind if I try my hand at the September OT?
This sounds like a good idea.
KoruptData
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purnoman3000
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Anybody else get an e-mail invitation to Marvel Unlimited Plus today?
It's a total joke what they're offering for the extra 40$ a year. I see tremendous value in the regular Marvel Unlimited and very little to none in this.
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It's a total joke what they're offering for the extra 40$ a year. I see tremendous value in the regular Marvel Unlimited and very little to none in this.
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I was a bit harsh, Duane's run is alright(I really liked his future Iron Fist story) but to me, it felt really subpar compared to Bru and Matt's stuff.
Also, Injustice should change it's name to Superman is a Dick.
There are three trades that continue the story from the cartoon. Hush Beyond is the first, then Industrial Revolution which is followed by 10,000 Clowns. There's one more trade from that run coming eventually and after that the writers switch. Get these books, they are consistently fun. They don't get enough hype here.
GrandHarrier
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Edit: Apparently Catwoman #23 is going to be a big deal??? There are mentions of retailers buying out all the last stock Diamond had. Seems it'll be the first appearance of
. Based Villains month, bringing back a sliver of the speculator boom and bust.
There is also a series before those, if I recall, that came out in 2000ish. Ran for like 20+ issues. But I don't think it was ever put into trades.
Joker's Daughter
There is also a series before those, if I recall, that came out in 2000ish. Ran for like 20+ issues. But I don't think it was ever put into trades.
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