Guys! I bought and read Multiversity #1!!! First comic I've bought since Batman INC. ended!! HAVE I DOOMED US ALL?!?!? OH NOOOOOOOO0000000010101010110101
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COMICS! |OT| August 2014. Infinite universes, or just fifty-two? Thanos.
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Give in.
I'm not precious about the death as such, but if they were going to undo it it would a) have to be the original and b) be a fucking big deal with a big cost.
(I agreed with JMS for what it's worth that if they were going to do it it should have happened during OMD and it should have been a fucking disaster for Peter. I still think the marriage shouldn't have been undone. If Marvel wanted to be shitty enough to undo the marriage they should have had the balls to have brought Gwen back and had that break Peter and MJ up.)
The Judge of all evil is here.
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loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding × guilt × shame × failure × judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side
Jedeye Sniv
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Might be my favourite page from anything ever. Fucking black hole gravity of despair. Amazing.
It's Morrison's interpretation of the Anti-Life Equation.
Ann Nocenti is an incompetent writer.
We are pointing out things that are obvious, Right?[/spoilers]
BlueScrote
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Based on the the context of this post, I'm assuming you don't go to any LCS. If you do, I'd be curious which ones you've had a positive experience with.
whatsinaname
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Of all the devices I have used to read comics, this is my preference order.
iPad Retina
iPad non-retina ~= iPad Mini Retina
Nexus 7
iPad Mini non-retina
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Spread is a truly awful and boring comic. Stay far away. Would've failed my creative writing class in college with that drivel. Managed to make a C though.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Weren't you gonna explain the Bunn Conundrum
Having used both an iPad non-retina and the Nexus 7 I'd actually rate the Nexus 7 above the non-retina iPad. Yes, the iPad has a bigger screen, but the sharpness of the Nexus 7's screen makes for a much better reading experience. Plus the Nexus is lighter and (perhaps more important to me than you) more portable. I read comics on mine on the commute to work, and the smaller form factor and lighter weight is a definite plus. I haven't used the retina iPads but I imagine they have great screens too. So yeah, if portability is a factor for you bear that in mind, but I've been using the Nexus for a few months now and I love reading comics on it.
Yup.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I prefer reading on my Nexus 7 or Mini just because of weight.
Seconded.
Awesome. I'm so excited for you. I've still just been keeping my steady pace of 2 issues a day, but it's been relentlessly great.
I have a feeling you wouldn't enjoy Sin City. Couldn't tell you exactly why, but it doesn't seem like it'd be in your wheelhouse. But hey, I could be totally wrong.
Wait. Do you have the X-Statix omnibus!? YOU NEED THE X-STATIX OMNIBUS. You will absolutely love X-Statix if you haven't read it yet. Seriously. That has Messi written all over it.
ViewtifulJC
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Pretty sure that's sillymonkey321's gimmick. Rafa is misspelling words and promising to one day make it in the industry(although at this rate, Kipp might beat him to it)
whatsinaname
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True, portability isn't that important for me. My problem with the smaller screens (Nexus 7 and iPad Mini) are the two-page spreads (and having to zoom in on some busy pages).
I also have only used the 2012 Nexus 7. I would think the 2013 would be as good as the iPad Mini retina.
I would agree with this when it comes to screen resolution. Not really form factor as portability wasn't a big thing for me and the Mini is plenty portable and the difference was negligible. once you get to retina mini all bets are off of course and a full size hi res tablet is a whole other ball game. Specifically for reading comics the N7 fell far behind the retina mini and especially the Air for me.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Big news coming soon.
People not gimmicks yo
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Mini Retina literally changed my life.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I had the same experience with my Nexus. I imagine the mini retina iPad is just as good, if not better. I got a great deal on the Nexus though (discounted and came with £50 of Google Play credit) so that swung it for me. Having said that, being on Android means I can actually use the Comixology app properly to buy comics and so on, which is a plus.
Basically, either the 2013 (or upcoming) Nexus 7 or Mini Retina iPad are going to make your digital comics experience incredible and you'll wonder how you ever lived without one.
Angelus Errare
Banned
This, I really couldn't go back to my iPad 2. Like it's impossible. I just find the mini to be perfect for any and everything related to reading.
Unfortunately somewhat negated by the fact it's still the Android phone app on a tablet. Cover Flow while browsing entire runs on an iPad was a beautiful thing. iOS comixology itself was a beautiful thing until they fucked it up.
Luckily the individual apps haven't been damaged....yet.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Tyrant Rave
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And I don't know if it was posted, but The Mary Sue has an interview with the writer of Gotham Academy. The book sounds really fun and the covers are cute. Pretty excited for it.
And I don't know if it was posted, but The Mary Sue has an interview with the writer of Gotham Academy. The book sounds really fun and the covers are cute. Pretty excited for it.
I am positively super excited for Gotham Academy and will read the 6 issues until it's cancelled.
indigo-cyclops
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My man...and this is why I'm going to get my library card and reserve each of the books. I really have to read this.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
I need those Becky variants? Why did the two most talented female artists stop drawing.....
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
sez Mr Girly Hijinx
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
If you haven't got a gimmick yet it just means you still have a life that hasn't been entirely subsumed by this terrifying place.
UpperCaseN
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OK to ask this here?
I know The Punisher had a run that's highly praised, is it Garth Ennis' run? I read it back in the day, Welcome Back Frank, etc. Where do I jump in for this stuff that's regarded well?
I know The Punisher had a run that's highly praised, is it Garth Ennis' run? I read it back in the day, Welcome Back Frank, etc. Where do I jump in for this stuff that's regarded well?
All of the Garth Ennis stuff is pretty much considered the definitive Punisher comics. Welcome Back, Frank is a perfect place to start. It's completely self-contained and everything, so it's a great jumping on point. It was my first Punisher comic ever and it was a great introduction. It's also a fantastic book in general. One of my all time favorite superhero books.
Garth Ennis also did a 30-something issue run with Dillon that sort of picks up where Welcome Back, Frank left off, and that's really great.
Generally though, people's favorite Ennis Punisher run was Punisher MAX which--while Welcome Back, Frank and the run following that were really lighthearted and humorous--is a very serious take on Punisher. I personally preferred the more lighthearted and humorous Punisher stuff just because super serious comics don't tend to be my thing, but it was still extremely well done.
In summary though, you can think of Punisher MAX and Welcome Back, Frank (and the 30-something issues that followed that) as two totally separate, standalone entities. You could start at the beginning of Ennis's Punisher MAX run and be totally fine or you could start with Welcome Back, Frank and be totally fine. And I'd definitely recommend all of it if you want to read great Punisher comics.
Edit: In fact, I think I'm going to reread one of my favorite Punisher MAX arcs right now...
Second edit: ViewtifulJC's post is superior to mine.
ViewtifulJC
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Ennis started off with Welcome Back Frank, the 12-issue story for the Marvel Knights property, that was in the regular Marvel continuity. He wrote the book the book with Steve Dillion for several issues afterwards before launching into his even more popular run, Punisher MAX. The MAX universe is separate for the regular Marvel universe, and allows creators to do full on R-rated shit without being censored. He did that for 60 issues with a couple of godlike artists like Leandro Fernandez and Goran Parlov, the volumes are easy to follow, that's the one you want. He also did a few minis/one-shots during that timespan, like The End, Born, The Cell, and The Tyger. He would later return do a sequel to Welcome Back Frank with Steve Dillon called War Zone.
Related, Ennis did a trilogy of Nick Fury stories that I highly recommend: Fury MAX(the one George Clooney famously read and was so disgusted he dropped out of playing the character), Peacemaker(details the history of Fury and the Howling Commandos), and my personal favorite, My War Gone By, which just came out in a big nice hardcover.
Lastly, Jason Aaron and Steve Dillon did a run on Punisher MAX that I honestly like even more than Ennis', which introduces Marvel Supervillains into the "realistic" MAX universe such as the Kingpin, Elektra and Bullseye. Its pretty great, delving into the psychology of a man like Frank Castle while also providing the definitive story of the Punisher vs Kingpin, the man who represents everything he looks to kill.
edit: beaten...but I have Amazon links mwahaha
I somehow keep forgetting about the Ennis/Dillon War Zone book. I really need to pick that up sometime.
I'm also still really hoping that Aaron PunisherMAX omnibus ends up being one of the clearance omnibuses since it was so overpriced. I'd really like to read that.
Also, fun fact, just checked ebay for that Aaron PunisherMAX omnibus just in case it's gotten cheaper (it hasn't) and one of the Remender Punisher omnibuses came up in the search and had an image of the back of the book and I got to feast my eyes on Birdie's fantastic achievement once again.
And your post is better than mine. Much more thorough and well put together.
slightconfuse
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Ennis punisher is awesome
the only thing ill add is dont sleep on greg Rucka's Punisher.
the only thing ill add is dont sleep on greg Rucka's Punisher.
ViewtifulJC
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and Remender's Punisher run is cool if totally different from everything else. Like storming a castle filled with jetpack samurai monster hunters on the back of a dragon with a machine gun, and then landing in the courtyard filled with Nazi zombies as Frank pushes his way in to fight the living embodiment of a Iron Maiden song different
UpperCaseN
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Thanks Kipp and ViewtifulJC! Sounds like Punisher MAX is the one I'm looking for, I'll jump in with that. Full on R-rated shit? Excellent
Oh, guys. What is the general consensus on Remender's Winter Soldier mini? Is it top-tier Remender stuff or just average?
No worries! I hope you enjoy it!
I'm re-reading the Mother Russia arc from that run right now. So great.
I actually think I'm enjoying it more now than when I first read it. When I first read it I was expecting something more along the lines of the Ennis/Dillon Punisher stuff, so I was caught off guard a little bit. Punisher MAX is super good though.
No worries! I hope you enjoy it!
I'm re-reading the Mother Russia arc from that run right now. So great.
I actually think I'm enjoying it more now than when I first read it. When I first read it I was expecting something more along the lines of the Ennis/Dillon Punisher stuff, so I was caught off guard a little bit. Punisher MAX is super good though.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Somewhere in between. It's not like God Tier but it's good little story.
Yep. I really enjoyed it. But it's not next level good.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Perfectly fine spy adventure story sounds about right. Don't go in there expecting lots of bucky tho
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Alternatively, if you want a real grounded and tactical approach to to the Punisher, Greg Rucka put out 4 volumes (1,2,3, and War Zone) that are a complete story. It's a slow-burn, and there are some more clinical moments, but it's great and Punisher-ette joins Frank and provides an interesting juxtaposition/mirror for Frank and his constant war.
Oh, also, Chechetto's art is really fucking dope--when he's on the book.
Thanks, guys. I think I might put in an IST order for Hellboy Library Edition vol 2 and Criminal Deluxe Edition vol 1. Since the Winter Soldier TPB was released this week, it's got a nice 50% discount putting it at $8.50, so it's tempting. If I do go through with the order, I'll probably just keep it to those two books though, since I really don't want to be spending much money on this one. Haha
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