sazabirules
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I loved the Ollie vs. Dad spread. The one you're talking about was a little harder for me to follow.
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COMICS! |OT| February 2014. Flowers? Candy? Please. Get that guy/gal an omnibus!
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Oops, my bad. I should clarify, I read Annihilation and Conquest and then all the rest of the cosmic stuff they were involved in. Nova, Guardians Of The Galaxy, War Of Kings, Realm Of Kings, Thanos Imperative. I always forget they didn't write Annihilation. In my mind, those two are linked with all the cosmic stories so I just associate them with that first story.
thetechkid
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I haven't read those, but I know what they were about. Also I've already read Blackest Night so I just planned on skipping them unless there is something of importance there that comes back later that I missed in the summaries I've read.
Zen_Arcade
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If you know what happens already I guess you don't technically need to read them, but you'd be missing out on some pretty good comics by passing them by.
La Maquinon
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Is he really? Are you sure? I ask because I genuinely do not know. I don't know Hickman's work well enough to trust that it's going to pay off. That the pieces will come together and stuff will really happen eventually. If that's the case, I might try to practice patience. As it is now, I don't find it to be quite an entirely satisfying read. Like Korupt said, they just keep introducing characters and get me caring about a thread and then it's dropped. Is this just the minutiae of Hickman's genius?
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It worked with his stuff on Fantastic Four because it built off of the emotional bonds in place you find in a family with kids, parents, grandparents, and their uncles. Made for a good cathartic pay-off in the end with Future Franklin Richards as the lynch pin.
His work on Avengers just feels totally dry in comparison because nobody means anything to anyone else and he uses his own new characters to push anything of meaning plot-wise and it feels a stretch even calling it Avengers at a time. The rolling cycle of "no THESE are the baddest dudes in the galaxy! undefeatable!!" is also wearing thin.
I think his stuff almost REQUIRES a (pre-established) core family focus to work at this point, otherwise it feels like going through the motions wheel spinning with no connect. I'm not sure East of West will ever have that kind of focus to it, so it didn't really register for me.
doniewhalberg
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I won't attempt to talk anyone around on Hickman, I think you either love him or hate him. However, as a full on lover of his works and having read everything bar his FF run, I would say that I can't imagine reading 20 pages of his work at a time, once a month, would be fulfilling at all. You want to sit down and dig into his stuff.
However, as another caveat, I'd pretty much say sitting down and reading 20 pages of any comic once a month is a bad idea, so who am I to say haha.
Sweet preview of the fuse #1 up on CBR. I really think Greenwood has come on a lot in the last few years. Although, I think it helps he gets in from the ground floor here, his style is so different to Mitten, he was never going to look good as a replacement on Wasteland. His cartoony edge is more suited to colour too, I think.
However, as another caveat, I'd pretty much say sitting down and reading 20 pages of any comic once a month is a bad idea, so who am I to say haha.
Sweet preview of the fuse #1 up on CBR. I really think Greenwood has come on a lot in the last few years. Although, I think it helps he gets in from the ground floor here, his style is so different to Mitten, he was never going to look good as a replacement on Wasteland. His cartoony edge is more suited to colour too, I think.
KoruptData
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Heh, said happy Green Lantern day to a random guy wearing a GL shirt and he came over and fist bumped me.
BlueScrote
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I agree it was definitely a bit harder to follow than your standard action scene, but I love the creativity of it. Before this series I had no idea who Sorrentino was, but now he's at the top of my radar as far as artists go.
Was planning on going but I got a bad lottery ticket apparently. None of the three in my group could get in until both Friday and Saturday were sold out so I guess we have to try our luck in the general public one whenever that happens. Guess I'll definitely be going to all 4 days at NYCC this year though which makes missing SDCC suck a little less.
KoruptData
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Made the call the LCS and dropped East of West and added Red Lanterns. How come you all didn't say this book was so good? 
TetraxShards
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Without the beehive hats, AIM's just another bunch of generic evil dudes.
I'm still not sure of the differences between their Evil Country and Marvel's other Evil Country (Bagalia, I think it's called?).
I'm still not sure of the differences between their Evil Country and Marvel's other Evil Country (Bagalia, I think it's called?).
Man, I'm the same way. Sometimes even when I don't get around to continuing a comic for a few days I feel lost when I return to it. I can't even imagine reading a plot-heavy or even semi-complicated comic just one issue a month.
I live in San Diego county and have never been... I really want to go this year.
La Maquinon
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I'm REALLY stoked for this series and hope people buy the shit out of it. Not only do we have a female protagonist, but she's middle-aged. And she does not appear to be predisposed to using her feminine wiles to get the bad guy. YAY.
It's interesting you say that because it's some of the familial/parental-type bonds that have worked best for me in East of West. One of my favorite bits is
Death's plot line with his child. More recently, the whole thing with that poor guy fusing with that pain/pleasure creature. And he was basically mothered by one of the characters prior to the fusing. Who was it, I dunno, War, maybe? Can't remember. But I loved that bit and the whole thing about him not saving or sparing him from that development I thought was really interesting.
Some of the other family stuff is less interesting like the House of Mao stuff. And the recent thing with the brothers.
One thing I will say about East of West that I enjoy is how the characters seem to alternate gender with each incarnation. I appreciate that element because it plays ever so subtly with notions of the fluidity of gender.
I hate all of Marvel's random crap. Beehive Aim guy merging with Halo armor is the worst.
BuddyJoeHooker
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An artist is told to make a beehive uniform look formidable, it was probably the best outcome.
I've been pretty impressed with what Hickman has been doing with A.I.M., they never seemed like a threat before, just a tool for MODOK to use. Now they are pulling people left and right from dying universes. It will be interesting to see where this all goes.
Freezasaurus
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Made the call the LCS and dropped East of West and added Red Lanterns. How come you all didn't say this book was so good?
Because it used to be horrendous until Soule started writing it. XD
Serpentine
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seeing as how they removed the dominant persona as well as the cannibalism from the hulk, and they kept the fact that he feels too unstable to be around the avengers, thats 616. the shield avengers I'll give you. and the captain America story I doubt was done to homage. but to push the avengers movie forward with just enough of an established background like they did with Thor.
Freezasaurus
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I've always enjoyed the comic more out of the two, but both are a blast. Honestly, the current story arc of the comics is starting to wear on me, though. Something big needs to happen soon. But you won't have to worry about that until you get passed issue #110.
I'm currently on Issue 23. Honestly, the first few issues were only alright but the series has been getting better and better each issue, but holy shit when they got to the prison it got addicting... I've read like 4 issues today (might not sound like a lot but for me its a lot I usually read like an issue a day) and I don't plan on stopping.
I have a feeling this series is gonna kill me when I gotta read monthly.
Also, I like how the TV series and comic are different. Makes it interesting to read the source material and when I catch up it'll be nice to see something different than what I've already read.
Freezasaurus
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Well, they pretty much had to. The comic was so far ahead, if they didn't change things up, people who also read the comic would get bored because they would always know what was coming.
Lots of animes adapt the manga and don't really change anything and they are awesome in my opinion at least. But I guess I see your point.
Anyway, back to more Walking Dead.
Freezasaurus
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Right, but this is America we're talking about. A lot of people here have the attention-spans of goldfish.
Freezasaurus
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Word of mouth, I imagine. After people finish it, there's a "hey dude, you gotta read this". And the trend continues. It's a good thing, Saga is a great series and deserves to be read by everyone.
You should try and go, at least for a day and experience all of the chaos. This will be my fourth year in a row.
I think it's been gaining a consistent flow of new readers, mostly by word of mouth. I didn't start reading Saga until August 2013 and had to get the first two trades before I started on the monthlies. One of my friends just started reading comics and I recommended Saga to him, so I'm sure he'll contribute to those sales once he buys it.
Well funny you say that. When I started back reading comics in July last year I went into a comic store in the USA just looking for a bat book of some kind to read. They had a top 10 trades rack and it had Batman new 52 vol 1 on it and while looking at the rack SAGA was #1. For some reason I knew SAGA was a big thing, I must have overheard it somewhere but for the life of me I have no idea where. I looked at it because being honest I liked the look of Alana and her wings. What sold me most was the 9.99 price tag.
Still have to get that SAGA #8 issue. So beautiful.
Serpentine
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captainnapalm
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I'm talking more of the how characters fit in the plot, not specifically what versions of them are being used. If you put the first Captain America movie and the Avengers movie together, it ends up looking a lot like the first six issues of the Ultimates:
Captain America, the first Avenger, is introduced, fighting in WWII.
He gets taken out and seemingly dies but is revived in the future by SHIELD, which is preparing to put together a new superhero team to deal with an alien threat.
The team features the likes of Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Black Widow and is overseen by Samuel L Fury.
They decide to involve Bruce Banner for his scientific knowledge, which at first seems like a terrible mistake when the Hulk goes on a rampage, but it turns out to be the ace in the hole when the monster ends up saving the day against the aliens.
Oops, meant to quote Kipp.
I went for all four days last year and I still didn't even manage to see most of what I wanted to see...and that was without attending any panels at all.
Ms Marvel? Damn the book must be doing well. Deserved.
Freezasaurus
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I've been on board since day one, so I have every issue so far. It's fun to collect full runs of books you like.
Gah. So envious.
Freezasaurus
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When the series hits like, issue 50 or something, I could totally ebay the full run for $$$$$$$$$$$$.
I buy the trades as well, anyway.
GrandHarrier
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I'm still kicking myself for not taking the time at last years ECCC to have Fiona sign my copies (or at least 1 and 8). But the line was just too damn long. I'm pretty sure only Scott Snyder's was longer.
Freezasaurus
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Don't signatures decrease the value of the book unless you've got one of the CGC people present?
GrandHarrier
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Probably. But I don't particularly care. I don't have any intentions to sell at this point. It was my first real con and I went signature happy.
Freezasaurus
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Nah. Wait. The more books you get, the more exponentially you can increase the asking price and still be within the realm of "reasonable".
Freezasaurus
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